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Blackbear · 03-28-2007, 06:54 AM

Have you tried the layered threadwork yet? I've been using embroidery floss for my threadwork, I like the idea of rayon thread better LOL! probably will take longer but it definitley looks nicer!

JimGrayOwl · 03-28-2007, 07:17 AM

That was very nice of you to post this tutorial. An awesome job and something I have been thinking about doing. I should probably visit this site more often. By the way, have you ever seen a 'fly tying thread dispenser?' Before you did this, that's what I was leaning toward trying. I don't know if it would work or not, never tied a fly either lol.

Thanks again,

Jim

**walela49** · 03-28-2007, 10:40 AM

I'm fairly certain that a fly tying rig is what you use to do the stacked thread wrap...also, for stacked, a thicker thread is much better to use..check out the fly tying thread, it's sturdier and bigger than the delicate rayon embroidery machine thread (and thus easier to stack).

stacked wrapping can be done in various ways, to create different looks to the stack (rounded, pyramid, etc.), but ultimately it starts out the same, with a flat first layer, the you backtrack one thread to start your first stacked layer...hope that makes sense! LOL

pretty sure you laquer as you go too, to hold everything together...so you have to pause to let the laquer dry for each layer...that's why a fly tying bobbin holder is helpful...it holds your thread without cutting while you walk away and let the laquer dry.

**walela49** · 03-28-2007, 08:16 PM

here's a fan I just finished!! it's up for sale on Ebay!!!
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwalela49QQhtZ-1
don't have a clue what to ask for it, so I'm no reserving it to see what I can get!!! LOL

Tlinkamoe · 03-29-2007, 09:50 AM

Thank you so much for the tutorial. You do awesome work.

Travis · 03-29-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walela49

..check out the fly tying thread,

I tie my own flys and have quite a bit of fly tying threads/materials. There are some metallic materials available at fly shops that are great for feather work. Lots of variety of types, colors and materials.
Be careful though because fly tying thread comes in many different sizes and the smaller sizes are very very delicate, even more than rayon and all. So if you go to a fly shop ask about the sizes first. Different manufacturers label their sizes differently as well. Some of the heavier fly tying threads would be good options to use, just stay away from the small sizes, atleast that's my opinion anyway.

**walela49** · 04-04-2007, 12:07 PM

thanks Travis!

so do sporting goods stores have a good selection of threads, or is it better to look online?

Travis · 04-04-2007, 12:24 PM

For Fly Tying Threads, I'd say stick with Fly Shops. The only sporting goods stores (nation wide companies anyway) I know of that have a selection of fly tying material/threads would be either Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's. You can probably view their thread selections online. Most fly shops have just as good and probably better selection though.
You can go online but I'd make sure the site had sometype of reference as to what size thread it was. Some companies have 10/0 (super small), 8/0, 6/0, 3/0 and then A (big). One type of thread goes from 70 (smallest) to 210 (larger). Plus there are different types of threads, nylon vs kevlar. (I've done some beadwork with kevlar thread and that stuff is so strong that if you tighten up a stitch or something like a knot, the thread may slice into your skin if you pull too hard) So personally, I'd be weary of ordering without seeing it first.

Mr Bo Jangles · 04-04-2007, 03:38 PM

I've waited. Now it's time to post.

www.gudebrod.com

Your ONE Place THREAD stop....not to mention glues and other fixatives.

http://www.gudebrod.com/fishing2005/...pping.htm#Neon

It's all I use. I swear by it....aye!

It's good thread, expensive, but, when you start using it, you'll see why.

I've used silk, rayon, embroidery thread, regular cotton thread..........and a slew of blends, from poly-cottons to rayon-silks.

Nylon jig thread works best for me.

But, to each his own.

What works best for you, and gives you the desired result, is what you want to go with.

Everyone says nylon, but, it's got a few drawbacks as well. ....however few. It's just getting comfortable with what you've got on hand to use.

Blackbear · 04-04-2007, 05:17 PM

You know.. If Bo Jangles says it's the best, I would definitly try it out.. he knows what he's talking about.

How you been dude? Long time no see!!!

Mr Bo Jangles · 04-04-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackbear

You know.. If Bo Jangles says it's the best, I would definitly try it out.. he knows what he's talking about.

How you been dude? Long time no see!!!

You're giving me too much credit!! LOL!!

Pretty good....well.....I'm doing alright. Let's just say that and be done with it. LMAO!!!

How's about you J? How's things in the thawing North these days?

**walela49** · 04-05-2007, 01:17 AM

hi MBJ...welcome back and pardon me while I pick your brain! LOL

just wondering what your experience is like concerning various lacquers?...do you have a preference by brand? and do you have more success lacquering certain types of threads over others?

cuz I know nylon beading thread shrinks when wet...just wondering if this is even an issue with wrapped threads?

I've only tried cotton, poly, rayon, and metallic sliver...and those lacquer fine with plain ol' B52, but some colors do darken or increase in transparency

figured you'd have more experience to share

**WocusWoman** · 04-05-2007, 02:19 AM

I've used Rust-oleum specialty high lustre Lacquer on various items. I start with very thin evenlayers to start, so my item is not dripping wet, and I let each dry very well. It works good on all kinds of stuff, including my painting on drums.

chirapachegurl · 04-05-2007, 09:27 AM

So last night I made an attemp at threadwork and i was doing such a good job, the only trouble i had was that very first thread you wrap as well as the second, i quite yet haven't figured out the trick to it but eventually i will. also when starting a new color trying to hold down the tail of the last color and holding the "tack" thread of the new color, whew. so i was able to wrap like 4 colors until the oven timer went off. i carefully laid the skewer on the coffee table in the living room and went to check on dinner. so within a few minutes i came back and i saw that the skewer was wrapped with a pink ribbon. i carefully unwrapped it and the last thread i was working on was in tangles :sad: my beautiful daughter tried wrapping the skewer with a pink ribbon. well i'm gonna try it again today.

03-28-2007, 06:54 AM	#21 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	Have you tried the layered threadwork yet? I've been using embroidery floss for my threadwork, I like the idea of rayon thread better LOL! probably will take longer but it definitley looks nicer! __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

03-28-2007, 10:40 AM	#23 (permalink)
walela49 the legal plumes lady! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: www.walela49.com Posts: 1,156	I'm fairly certain that a fly tying rig is what you use to do the stacked thread wrap...also, for stacked, a thicker thread is much better to use..check out the fly tying thread, it's sturdier and bigger than the delicate rayon embroidery machine thread (and thus easier to stack). stacked wrapping can be done in various ways, to create different looks to the stack (rounded, pyramid, etc.), but ultimately it starts out the same, with a flat first layer, the you backtrack one thread to start your first stacked layer...hope that makes sense! LOL pretty sure you laquer as you go too, to hold everything together...so you have to pause to let the laquer dry for each layer...that's why a fly tying bobbin holder is helpful...it holds your thread without cutting while you walk away and let the laquer dry. __________________ See my trading post ads See my photo gallery See walela49's myspace page

04-04-2007, 12:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
walela49 the legal plumes lady! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: www.walela49.com Posts: 1,156	thanks Travis! so do sporting goods stores have a good selection of threads, or is it better to look online? __________________ See my trading post ads See my photo gallery See walela49's myspace page

04-04-2007, 03:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
Mr Bo Jangles Member since March 2000. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sunny, downtown, middle of no where... Posts: 699	I've waited. Now it's time to post. www.gudebrod.com Your ONE Place THREAD stop....not to mention glues and other fixatives. http://www.gudebrod.com/fishing2005/...pping.htm#Neon It's all I use. I swear by it....aye! It's good thread, expensive, but, when you start using it, you'll see why. I've used silk, rayon, embroidery thread, regular cotton thread..........and a slew of blends, from poly-cottons to rayon-silks. Nylon jig thread works best for me. But, to each his own. What works best for you, and gives you the desired result, is what you want to go with. Everyone says nylon, but, it's got a few drawbacks as well. ....however few. It's just getting comfortable with what you've got on hand to use. __________________ "This next song goes out to some girls in dot com. They don't know who they are, but, it doesn't really matter anyway." "When the God's wish to punish us, they grant our prayers." O. Wilde

04-04-2007, 05:17 PM	#30 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	You know.. If Bo Jangles says it's the best, I would definitly try it out.. he knows what he's talking about. How you been dude? Long time no see!!! __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

03-28-2007, 07:17 AM	#22 (permalink)
JimGrayOwl Gourd Dancer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 62	That was very nice of you to post this tutorial. An awesome job and something I have been thinking about doing. I should probably visit this site more often. By the way, have you ever seen a 'fly tying thread dispenser?' Before you did this, that's what I was leaning toward trying. I don't know if it would work or not, never tied a fly either lol. Thanks again, Jim

03-29-2007, 09:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
Tlinkamoe Junior Dancer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 157	Thank you so much for the tutorial. You do awesome work.

04-04-2007, 12:24 PM	#28 (permalink)
Travis Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kansas City MO Posts: 25	For Fly Tying Threads, I'd say stick with Fly Shops. The only sporting goods stores (nation wide companies anyway) I know of that have a selection of fly tying material/threads would be either Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's. You can probably view their thread selections online. Most fly shops have just as good and probably better selection though. You can go online but I'd make sure the site had sometype of reference as to what size thread it was. Some companies have 10/0 (super small), 8/0, 6/0, 3/0 and then A (big). One type of thread goes from 70 (smallest) to 210 (larger). Plus there are different types of threads, nylon vs kevlar. (I've done some beadwork with kevlar thread and that stuff is so strong that if you tighten up a stitch or something like a knot, the thread may slice into your skin if you pull too hard) So personally, I'd be weary of ordering without seeing it first.

04-05-2007, 01:17 AM	#32 (permalink)
walela49 the legal plumes lady! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: www.walela49.com Posts: 1,156	hi MBJ...welcome back and pardon me while I pick your brain! LOL just wondering what your experience is like concerning various lacquers?...do you have a preference by brand? and do you have more success lacquering certain types of threads over others? cuz I know nylon beading thread shrinks when wet...just wondering if this is even an issue with wrapped threads? I've only tried cotton, poly, rayon, and metallic sliver...and those lacquer fine with plain ol' B52, but some colors do darken or increase in transparency figured you'd have more experience to share __________________ See my trading post ads See my photo gallery See walela49's myspace page

04-05-2007, 02:19 AM	#33 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,726	I've used Rust-oleum specialty high lustre Lacquer on various items. I start with very thin evenlayers to start, so my item is not dripping wet, and I let each dry very well. It works good on all kinds of stuff, including my painting on drums.

04-05-2007, 09:27 AM	#34 (permalink)
chirapachegurl Super Troop Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 434	So last night I made an attemp at threadwork and i was doing such a good job, the only trouble i had was that very first thread you wrap as well as the second, i quite yet haven't figured out the trick to it but eventually i will. also when starting a new color trying to hold down the tail of the last color and holding the "tack" thread of the new color, whew. so i was able to wrap like 4 colors until the oven timer went off. i carefully laid the skewer on the coffee table in the living room and went to check on dinner. so within a few minutes i came back and i saw that the skewer was wrapped with a pink ribbon. i carefully unwrapped it and the last thread i was working on was in tangles :sad: my beautiful daughter tried wrapping the skewer with a pink ribbon. well i'm gonna try it again today. __________________ If you allow the world to change you, only then can you change the world....