Please forgive my ignorance...

Hawk_FeatherJY · 06-22-2006, 12:10 AM

I am wondering what the difference is between the Tipi & the Sweat lodge (wickiup)? I want to know all I can on this topic so any info you can share I would be very greatfull. I am currently reading: Mother Earth Spirituality, By Ed Eagle Man, it is really informative but, I know traditions vary from tribe to tribe. So I'm being courious about it all.... Thanks.
Hawk_Feather

Cheshire Cat · 06-22-2006, 09:01 PM

TIPIS are dwellings you can live in and a Sweat lodge is for ceremonial or cleansing. The tipi is a cone shape structure and a sweat lodge is dome shape completely covered in blankets to keep the heat in from the hot rocks. There will be variations of this through out the Plains. I am not versed into going on any further about sweat lodges here. There are others who can go into that structure.

Tips can be anywhere from 6 to 30 + feet to live in with a fire inside durring cold weather.
If you go to this site...
www.tipis.org or www.tipis-tepees-teepees.com
it will answer all you want about tipis.

Hawk_FeatherJY · 06-24-2006, 11:46 PM

Thank you for your info, I can really use it! thank you once a gain.

WhoMe · 06-27-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk_FeatherJY

I am wondering what the difference is between the Tipi & the Sweat lodge? I want to know all I can on this topic so any info you can share I would be very greatfull.
Hawk_Feather

Hawk_F,

Is this question of two Indian lodges is making you "2 tents" (too tense)?

*L

debbieyd · 06-27-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk_FeatherJY

I am wondering what the difference is between the Tipi & the Sweat lodge (wickiup)? I want to know all I can on this topic so any info you can share I would be very greatfull. I am currently reading: Mother Earth Spirituality, By Ed Eagle Man, it is really informative but, I know traditions vary from tribe to tribe. So I'm being courious about it all.... Thanks.
Hawk_Feather

Pick a tribe, any tribe, make sure they make enough percapita for your "savings" If you have to read up on being "Indian" then I must say good luck, it's a learned behavior, instilled in our blood!!!!

ntownn8ive · 06-28-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe

Hawk_F,

Is this question of two Indian lodges is making you "2 tents" (too tense)?

*L

I'm a tipi, I'm a wigwam, I'm a tipi, I'm a wigwam

Hawk_FeatherJY · 06-30-2006, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe

Hawk_F,

Is this question of two Indian lodges is making you "2 tents" (too tense)?

*L

very funny...lol

Hawk_FeatherJY · 06-30-2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ntownn8ive

I'm a tipi, I'm a wigwam, I'm a tipi, I'm a wigwam

yeah really, lol!

ntownn8ive · 07-12-2006, 07:39 PM

What was the question again, did anyone even answer you? Something about what was a sweatlodge and a wickiup or something? Where's the one tipi lady at, she has her own website and everything. tipis-tepees-teepees dot com or something. I have a feeling that website is geared more towards what you are looking for. Or maybe not....I don't know.....something about tipis that has wasichus all fascinated! So many white people are putting up tipis nowadays for scout meetings, retreats, summer camps...hell I even saw some at this treatment center for teenagers.....makes me not want to put up mine anymore........................jks

Hawk_FeatherJY · 07-15-2006, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ntownn8ive

What was the question again, did anyone even answer you? Something about what was a sweatlodge and a wickiup or something? Where's the one tipi lady at, she has her own website and everything. tipis-tepees-teepees dot com or something. I have a feeling that website is geared more towards what you are looking for. Or maybe not....I don't know.....something about tipis that has wasichus all fascinated! So many white people are putting up tipis nowadays for scout meetings, retreats, summer camps...hell I even saw some at this treatment center for teenagers.....makes me not want to put up mine anymore........................jks

well I originaly asked the question because it was kind of unclear to me which was which, & or if the was a difference at all. I'm now getting some more input on this & it makes things a little clearer... lol as for the site you were refering to let me know if there are any more you can think of... ok thanks for the help.

Hawk_FeatherJY · 07-16-2006, 03:37 PM

I read yesterday in this very old book, called "The book of the Indians." that the wickiup was originaly a bark house "wig-was-i-ga-mig". the bark was striped and made into squares & stiched into one long peice about (20 ft long) they were called "apakwas". they were laid over the rounded frames. I have more info in this book than i thought. I'm so excited. I can hardly wait to test it out.

TWDBear · 07-22-2006, 07:30 PM

Actually there is a difference between a sweatlodge and a wickiup.

A wickiup tends to be a dome shaped, or elongated, shelter that is used to live in. It was sometimes covered in bark, canvas, and/or tule or reed mats.

A sweatlodge is usually domeshaped and these days are usually covered in quilts or blankets. Different tribes have their own use for a sweatlodge. Some for purification, some for healing, it depends on the tribe.

Regarding the lady with the tipi site, it's actually a good tipi site but as far as i know, there's nothing on her site about sweatlodges, only tipi's. She's also planning on coming out with a book about tipi's, both modern and historical, i believe.

As far as people's facination with tipi's, i guess people could become just as easily facinated with the Cherokee Log Cabins or the Paunee earth lodges, but those are so dang hard to haul around.

I've seen tipi's being used at youth treatment programs, as well as in people's back yards, front yards, in front of stores, in front of and at powwows, lot's of places.

But make no mistake, a tipi is not a sweatlodge, even though a person may break a sweat setting up their tipi in the August heat.

Tim n'Tennessee

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What was the question again, did anyone even answer you? Something about what was a sweatlodge and a wickiup or something? Where's the one tipi lady at, she has her own website and everything. tipis-tepees-teepees dot com or something. I have a feeling that website is geared more towards what you are looking for. Or maybe not....I don't know.....something about tipis that has wasichus all fascinated! So many white people are putting up tipis nowadays for scout meetings, retreats, summer camps...hell I even saw some at this treatment center for teenagers.....makes me not want to put up mine anymore........................jks

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Hawk_FeatherJY Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dewey, Oklahoma Posts: 1,552	Please forgive my ignorance... I am wondering what the difference is between the Tipi & the Sweat lodge (wickiup)? I want to know all I can on this topic so any info you can share I would be very greatfull. I am currently reading: Mother Earth Spirituality, By Ed Eagle Man, it is really informative but, I know traditions vary from tribe to tribe. So I'm being courious about it all.... Thanks. Hawk_Feather

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ntownn8ive As you can see... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: We get a lot of sun in Ntown! Posts: 5,769 Blog Entries: 1	What was the question again, did anyone even answer you? Something about what was a sweatlodge and a wickiup or something? Where's the one tipi lady at, she has her own website and everything. tipis-tepees-teepees dot com or something. I have a feeling that website is geared more towards what you are looking for. Or maybe not....I don't know.....something about tipis that has wasichus all fascinated! So many white people are putting up tipis nowadays for scout meetings, retreats, summer camps...hell I even saw some at this treatment center for teenagers.....makes me not want to put up mine anymore........................jks __________________

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Hawk_FeatherJY Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dewey, Oklahoma Posts: 1,552	Im so excited! I read yesterday in this very old book, called "The book of the Indians." that the wickiup was originaly a bark house "wig-was-i-ga-mig". the bark was striped and made into squares & stiched into one long peice about (20 ft long) they were called "apakwas". they were laid over the rounded frames. I have more info in this book than i thought. I'm so excited. I can hardly wait to test it out.

06-22-2006, 09:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cheshire Cat Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 141	TIPIS are dwellings you can live in and a Sweat lodge is for ceremonial or cleansing. The tipi is a cone shape structure and a sweat lodge is dome shape completely covered in blankets to keep the heat in from the hot rocks. There will be variations of this through out the Plains. I am not versed into going on any further about sweat lodges here. There are others who can go into that structure. Tips can be anywhere from 6 to 30 + feet to live in with a fire inside durring cold weather. If you go to this site... www.tipis.org or www.tipis-tepees-teepees.com it will answer all you want about tipis.

06-24-2006, 11:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hawk_FeatherJY Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dewey, Oklahoma Posts: 1,552	Thank you for your info, I can really use it! thank you once a gain.