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Old 06-11-2005, 12:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"Into the West" tipis...

Waht did you think of the historic tipis on this series????
Any thoughts....were they good or bad or just what were they for the 1830's???
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I was thinking that they didn't look right for some reason. I don't know what it was but they didn't look like any I'd ever seen. But then again, I wasn't around in the 1830's to know for sure what they did look like back then.
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they looked right for the time period. i think i prefer those to what i see now adays.
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Don't forget that 1825 is when the show starts out. And, since the People were moving about dependent on bison or the time of year they would have had more 'utilitarian' tipis, not what we see at Crow Fair...
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Unfortunatly I do know what the tipis look like at that 1830's time period and the Crow Fair of today....

Unfortuantly the advisors for the production company and the production company did not....and for the most part, they did not look like what we saw.

Do you know what they looked liked in the time period???
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Unfortunatly I do know what the tipis look like at that 1830's time period and the Crow Fair of today....

Unfortuantly the advisors for the production company and the production company did not....and for the most part, they did not look like what we saw.

Do you know what they looked liked in the time period???
Can you post some images (drawings) of these early lodges?
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I cannot post pictures here on this site because what I do have will be in my new book. But I do have written descriptions and you have the drawings of Miller, Catlin and Bodmier for a start. The first "pHotos" of any tipis that can can be found are around 1850 to 60 and they are similar to what you see today. But todays tipis, for the most part are based on Laubin who started the very modern version of a tipi that does not set up like the old ones did.

My personal library and computor have several thousand "photos" of tipis and camps from all over the country from the 1840 to today. You can go dizzy blind looking at them. But they are still an amazing way to live.
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I thought they looked like canvas with perfect stitching. Didn't think they were using canvas in 1825-still quite a few buffalo around at that time. I could be wrong-not a tipi expert, I just know how to sew very well.
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Tipis,

I thought the first of the 6-part series was totally historically inaccurate. The Mohave tribe wore the same outfits and hairstyles as the Lakota. Hmmmmm?

I'm glad you pointed out the tipis. I am no expert on Lakota tipis of the 1825 era. However we do have a pre-reservation bison hide Lakota tipi where I work. It has over 120 painted characters/scenes on the outside.

Is it true that there are only approximately 26 bison hide tipis in existence?
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You will have to wait on the new book on Buffalo hide tipis to come next year by mIke tErry and Woody. They are running late like I am on getting their book out.
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