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How many of you use your tipi without the liner or have ever tried it?

Brown wlf

Never tried staying in it without one. I dont think we'd want to because one of the features we liked over a tent was the privacy the liner provided at night. Dont wanna be giving any shadow puppet shows Lol.

WocusWoman

When I was a kid, my dad always used the tipi without it's liner. Can't remember if he even had one.

bushy_braids

HAHAHA!
same here...

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Nuumu

Helps with air circulation if you have one in.....

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What time of the year are you talking about and do you own a tipi and have lived more than a Powwow weekend in one?

Have you been in one durring the hot summer month in Olka. on one.

Brown wlf

We live in Massachusetts and mostly use it for camping out at the powwows, and camping. We lived in it for a week once on a trip. I dont know what the summers are like in Oklahoma but we have had temps in the upper 90's to 102 with 80% humidity. Lifting the liner up in spots really helps to keep a little cooler with the draft it creates.

Mexica-grass

You want one if you dont want to wake up with any fury critters in you bed.

MuzeBl

I just put mine up here in Carnegie, OK. I had the liner up, but it was too hot. It was much more comfortable without it. Had a nice breaze that night as well. It was perfect!

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tipis

Where have you been..... I have tried to call you several times....you are never home.....be home sometime.

And you are right...you do not need a liner....Only for real cold weather....

SingingDeer

Thinking of living in a tipi at powwows sounds interesting.... I remember seeing a vender once who had tipis for sale, but unfortunately I couldn't afford it and hubby wasn't too crazy about it.... personally I've wanted one since I was a kid *sniff*
oh well, someday maybe?

as for the liner... I think it depends on the air circulation in the specific camp as to whether it is better with it up or not.

I tent-camped one October night in OK and it was warm then so I can imagine what it's like in the summer.

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thomas34461

If you have a tipi then by all means take the extra time and put up the liner! I seen some good replys given to you here in tha value of having one. Not only will it give you the privacy at night, if it should happen to rain or you have moisture from the outside wanting to make it into the inside the liner will be a barriier to stop it. :) The liner does help out alot with air circulation. On thse hot days as mention here in this thread it does help to lift the liner up in spots to help to keep a little cooler with the draft it creates. Another thing that I used it for was to hang decorations and paint designs on the liner to make it more me. Hope thathelps.

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Iron Wood

I know, I know, I'm a little late posting this response. I have used my tipi with a liner, without a liner, and with portions of the liner up. In the winter I always use a liner. In the summer I may use the back piece, or none at all.
I over heard a guy a few years ago telling a group of people about tipi liners. He explained how they created a draft for the fire/ smoke. He went on to explain that they made the tipi about 15 degrees cooler on a hot summer day. This was in Texas, where I live. I gotta tell you, my experience hasn't exactly mirrored his, when it comes to cooling off the lodge! Maybe my liner is faulty! My experience has been that it is hotter in the summer with the liner up. Want a breeze? Drop the liner and lift the cover.

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TWDBear

I've never tried staying in it without the liner, even in the summer heat. Since my cover is white Sunforger, as is the liner, having the liner up helps to block the sun and create more shade. Of course in the heat i'll raise both the cover and liner to let the breeze through and in the winter months i'll put both the liner and ozan up to make it warmer.

Just a couple of weekends ago, at a powwow, we stayed in the tipi with a fire (LP of course). It got down into the lower 20's but we were comfortable, even during Kid's Day with the door open and people constantly coming and going. I had the linder up and would put the ozan up at night to make the tipi warmer and dryer (it rained one of the nights).

Tim n'Tennessee

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::: waving at Linda while she's camping in her tipi and visiting Mickey Mouse :::::

PPS
:::: waving at Andrea in OK ::::: Did you get your daughter's powwow dress finished?

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just got back from a week of camping at Disney World. You guys should try this next year???? It will be the 35 year for the Tipis Lodge Owners camping for Thanksgiving.

Set up my lodge with no liner! That created quite a stir. It rained like hell with some flooding Sunday nite and then came the winds and COOL temperatures. I had no problems at all with water, which just ran down the poles and back out or the freezing temperatures. Did get a bit of flack about how you could see "shadows" in my lodge. When it came to take down, what a breeze with no liner to dry or fold.


And a liner does not keep a tipi cooler in the summer. It keeps it warmer.

With the cover ALL the way to the ground, it was like there was a liner.

Oh....remember....the liner is the Ozan and there is no name for the interior water or rain cover nor did they ever really have one, but.we will call it a...RAin Cover.


Linda Holley

TWDBear

Sounds like you had fun there.
I've thought about going there but it depends a lot on how much vacation is used up by the Fall.

I agree that not using the liner makes set up easier. I've been seriously thinking about changing from tying my lower liner ties to the poles to attaching hooks and just running a rope around the base of the poles. I saw this trick at NPW and it does seem to speed set up a lot, especially with the hooks at the top ties as well as on the parfleche bags inside. No tying, just hooking in place and you don't notice the hooks since they're brass in color and blend in quite nicely.

Is your tipi made of a dark cloth or lighter cloth?

Mine is made of white sunforger and without the liner and in the summer sun, mine feels hotter, then again, my cloth is the heavier 13 oz. In the summer heat, i do raise up both the liner and cover with the same forked sticks so the breezes can blow through or catch some cooler air from the shady side of the tipi.

I have my tipi pitched in the backyard now, it's been up for the past week and i suspect will be up for the next week until the next stretch of sunny dry weather.
I lowered my tie points on the N/S poles by about 2 inches and on the E pole by 4 inches so the cover is either just barely touching the grass or is withing an inch of the ground. It does help in keeping the cold air (in the 20's) out and the warmer air in (been burning LP Gas). But with the cold, i've been using the liner and "ozan" to keep the heat in better. Plus my "ozan", i've sewn an extension along the front that can hang down some to keep more heat in or extend out straight to direct more rain onto the grass if needed.

I've had people say they can see shadows at night even with a liner but i've checked mine and all i could see was vague blobs from the top of the liner down, nothing specific.

Linda, when's the new release date of your book?

Tim n'Tennessee