What kind of fuel to use in a tipi - Page 2

tipis · 03-22-2004, 10:04 AM

A screen?? do you own a tipi or been in one? As for the BTU, his fire puts out about 4000 when fully open and about 2000 when half closed. I own one of these too and they are great for a tipi.
No need for "screens". If you have good wood that burns hot and does not pop, you will not have a problem. Any sparks that may make it up top quickly go out. That is, unless you are buring a huge big fire that should never be put in a tipi. Almost all fires that burn down a tipi are started from carelessness and burn from the bottom to the top of a tipi. Very rare to have a fire in the top.....unless you have been burning the great amounts of the wax logs that come pre-packaged. These build up waxy dark surfaces on the smoke flaps and can hold a spark which will cause a fire.

I Have personally seen 5 tipis go up in flames. Stupid mistakes were the cause.

tipis
http://www.tipis-tepees-teepees.com

TWDBear · 03-22-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer

TWDBear
Did you use a spark screen on top of the tipi when you burn the wood?

No, never had to. I would keep the flames from a wood ground fire to 18 inches or lower though, and i would never leave the fire alone.

Tim.

**White Powwow Dancer** · 03-22-2004, 01:46 PM

Hi
I have been in one before never own one.

**White Powwow Dancer** · 03-22-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tipis

A screen?? do you own a tipi or been in one? As for the BTU, his fire puts out about 4000 when fully open and about 2000 when half closed. I own one of these too and they are great for a tipi.
No need for "screens". If you have good wood that burns hot and does not pop, you will not have a problem. Any sparks that may make it up top quickly go out. That is, unless you are buring a huge big fire that should never be put in a tipi. Almost all fires that burn down a tipi are started from carelessness and burn from the bottom to the top of a tipi. Very rare to have a fire in the top.....unless you have been burning the great amounts of the wax logs that come pre-packaged. These build up waxy dark surfaces on the smoke flaps and can hold a spark which will cause a fire.

I Have personally seen 5 tipis go up in flames. Stupid mistakes were the cause.

tipis
http://www.tipis-tepees-teepees.com

Hi tipis
Iam talking about spark arrestor keep sparks from lighting grass on fire like a wood stove chimney on your house.

Gail405 · 11-17-2004, 06:10 PM

Do you believe your ancestors wouldn't turn over in the grave spot if they could hear what some of you people are advocating? I only read. I don't know, although I have built fire for cooking potatoes below the fire. And built fire to prepare meat on creek banks in my youth. In my reading just recently, the tribes in question carried their fire whenever they moved. How they did this was not revealed. Made for easy warmth and meal preparation at the next spot they stopped. Then they carried it again to their next location. Ingenuis or not, or practical. That's how they dealt w/ the fire problems.Tipis from the reading were small. so the dogs could move them, when there were no horses. This to clarify, horses were unknown at this point in time, to the Native American.

hopping crow · 02-23-2005, 10:38 AM

I use wood as the primary fule in my lodge. I am very tradish and like to stick to the old ways of doing things. I have a friend that owns a buffalo farm and he sends me all his chips after they have dried...What can i say im VERY tradish

Historian · 02-25-2005, 07:51 PM

I would never recommend using coal, charcoal, or and kind of gas or liquid fuel to heat a Lodge. All of these have potentially dangerous fumes.

Whenever I have had to heat a lodge, my first choice has been very dry (seasoned) hardwood, such as Oak, Birch, Ash or Maple. The fact that it is dry hardwood with very little sap, will give you the most amount of heat from it's embers and the least amount of smoke, especially if your lining or dewcloth it set up properly to give you a good upward draft.

It also helps to make sure the firepit is dug just to the front of center (to the east of center or a little towards the door hole), so that it is directly beneath the greatest area of the open smokehole, and not directly beneath the tripod lashing. For those who a very traditional, this will also allow for the proper placement of the altar mound (made from the dirt taken out of the fire pit) on the west side of the fire pit, which should be directly beneath the center tripod lashing.

**chazziff** · 02-25-2005, 08:20 PM

very informative if i do say so myself - when i finally spend a night in a tipi i will be prepared..kewl..thanks.

**White Powwow Dancer** · 08-25-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hopping crow

I use wood as the primary fuel in my lodge. I am very tradish and like to stick to the old ways of doing things. I have a friend that owns a buffalo farm and he sends me all his chips after they have dried...What can i say I'm VERY tradish

Hi
Lest you don't have a nosy neighbor to call the fire dept and the air pollution police on your butt for the action.

69_Danny_69 · 10-11-2005, 09:39 PM

Another good thing we have used is reject tank ends from a company that makes butane and other tanks. They are from 3 to 5 feet and 1/2 inch solid steel. If you brick or rock support them you can get a grate to go on them too. They are great, not overly heavy and manageable!

tsuj510 · 10-13-2005, 07:20 PM

Getcha some Cottonwood.

Its lightweight, holds a good coal and smells good when it burns.

shyeagle · 11-11-2005, 05:15 AM

i,ve always used wood for the tipi fire, all different sorts, what i could scavage, A LOT OF PINE OFF CUTS, GET FOR FREE, I EVEN USE FRUIT TREE PRUNINGS LIKE APRICOT AND ORANGE TREE BRANCHES CUT UP IT BURNS REALLY HOT AND SMELLS GOOD TWO, WE DO ALL THE COOKING ON THR FIRE TWO, NEVER HAD ANY SAFETY PROBLEMS JUST RESPECT THE FIRE, THERES NOTHING LIKE A WOOD TIPI FIRE, BUT USE WHAT EVER IS AVAILABLE!

69_Danny_69 · 11-12-2005, 07:45 AM

Shyeagle, I hope you do not cook with that pine, it puts off fumes that are respatory and health concerns. The other fruit woods you mentioned are great.
tsalaghisam, I used to live where there was Cottonwood and verdy . Verdy burned really hot!!!I bought a new grill one time and couldn't afford wood so I picked up some dried verdy. It burned so hot it burndt the heat resistant paint right off my new grill. After it burndt down it made some very fine very long lasting coals. The meat was great cooked over them too!!!

shyeagle · 11-13-2005, 12:29 AM

hi danny 69 thanks for advice, we,ve been making fires with pine , and cooking for many years, havent got sick yet, or lung troubles, but i know in the that a lot of native,s in the old days died of black lung, because of fires, there is this different pine hear in aussie. its a native pine not like nrth. american, its called malleepine or murray pine i think similar smell to american cedar, its makes a geat burning wood, and smells terrific, it grows in the mallee and desert areas, its protected now nearly wiped out by farmers, so now starting to come back, wouid be great for smudging and i know this ones not toxic. wado shy eagle

69_Danny_69 · 11-13-2005, 01:02 AM

shyeagle,
That is great. The pine I was speaking of is the white and yellow pine that grows in East Texas. You really would not be safe breathing it. I am glad you set my mind at ease, you had me worried.
Danny Tosa Nakaai

03-22-2004, 10:04 AM	#21 (permalink)
tipis Teen Dancer Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 297	Do you own a tipi??? A screen?? do you own a tipi or been in one? As for the BTU, his fire puts out about 4000 when fully open and about 2000 when half closed. I own one of these too and they are great for a tipi. No need for "screens". If you have good wood that burns hot and does not pop, you will not have a problem. Any sparks that may make it up top quickly go out. That is, unless you are buring a huge big fire that should never be put in a tipi. Almost all fires that burn down a tipi are started from carelessness and burn from the bottom to the top of a tipi. Very rare to have a fire in the top.....unless you have been burning the great amounts of the wax logs that come pre-packaged. These build up waxy dark surfaces on the smoke flaps and can hold a spark which will cause a fire. I Have personally seen 5 tipis go up in flames. Stupid mistakes were the cause. tipis http://www.tipis-tepees-teepees.com

03-22-2004, 01:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
White Powwow Dancer Brakeman Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: ONIGAMIINSING (Little portage) Posts: 1,306	Hi I have been in one before never own one. __________________ Asema Is Sacred Traditional Use, Not Misuse Wakan Tanka please have compassion on me. OK Niji we are running a train with red over yellow at this powwow.

02-23-2005, 10:38 AM	#26 (permalink)
hopping crow NORTHERN TRADITIONAL Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: ST PETE,FLORIDA Posts: 55	I use wood as the primary fule in my lodge. I am very tradish and like to stick to the old ways of doing things. I have a friend that owns a buffalo farm and he sends me all his chips after they have dried...What can i say im VERY tradish __________________ MY HEROES HAVE ALWAYS KILLED COWBOYS

02-25-2005, 07:51 PM	#27 (permalink)
Historian Experienced Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 1,013	Good Dry Hardwood I would never recommend using coal, charcoal, or and kind of gas or liquid fuel to heat a Lodge. All of these have potentially dangerous fumes. Whenever I have had to heat a lodge, my first choice has been very dry (seasoned) hardwood, such as Oak, Birch, Ash or Maple. The fact that it is dry hardwood with very little sap, will give you the most amount of heat from it's embers and the least amount of smoke, especially if your lining or dewcloth it set up properly to give you a good upward draft. It also helps to make sure the firepit is dug just to the front of center (to the east of center or a little towards the door hole), so that it is directly beneath the greatest area of the open smokehole, and not directly beneath the tripod lashing. For those who a very traditional, this will also allow for the proper placement of the altar mound (made from the dirt taken out of the fire pit) on the west side of the fire pit, which should be directly beneath the center tripod lashing. __________________ "Be good, be kind, help each other. Respect the ground, respect the drum, respect each other." --Abe Conklin, Ponca/Osage (1926-1995)

02-25-2005, 08:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
chazziff crossroads? maybe.... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: can-na-duh Posts: 6,388	very informative if i do say so myself - when i finally spend a night in a tipi i will be prepared..kewl..thanks. __________________ All you know is when I'm with you I make you free And swim through your veins like a fish in the sea

11-17-2004, 06:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
Gail405 Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 104	Do you believe your ancestors wouldn't turn over in the grave spot if they could hear what some of you people are advocating? I only read. I don't know, although I have built fire for cooking potatoes below the fire. And built fire to prepare meat on creek banks in my youth. In my reading just recently, the tribes in question carried their fire whenever they moved. How they did this was not revealed. Made for easy warmth and meal preparation at the next spot they stopped. Then they carried it again to their next location. Ingenuis or not, or practical. That's how they dealt w/ the fire problems.Tipis from the reading were small. so the dogs could move them, when there were no horses. This to clarify, horses were unknown at this point in time, to the Native American.

10-11-2005, 09:39 PM	#30 (permalink)
69_Danny_69 Tosa Nakaai Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 70	Fuel Another good thing we have used is reject tank ends from a company that makes butane and other tanks. They are from 3 to 5 feet and 1/2 inch solid steel. If you brick or rock support them you can get a grate to go on them too. They are great, not overly heavy and manageable!

10-13-2005, 07:20 PM	#31 (permalink)
tsuj510 Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 420	Getcha some Cottonwood. Its lightweight, holds a good coal and smells good when it burns.

11-11-2005, 05:15 AM	#32 (permalink)
shyeagle Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: soaring with eagles Posts: 168	Fire i,ve always used wood for the tipi fire, all different sorts, what i could scavage, A LOT OF PINE OFF CUTS, GET FOR FREE, I EVEN USE FRUIT TREE PRUNINGS LIKE APRICOT AND ORANGE TREE BRANCHES CUT UP IT BURNS REALLY HOT AND SMELLS GOOD TWO, WE DO ALL THE COOKING ON THR FIRE TWO, NEVER HAD ANY SAFETY PROBLEMS JUST RESPECT THE FIRE, THERES NOTHING LIKE A WOOD TIPI FIRE, BUT USE WHAT EVER IS AVAILABLE!

11-12-2005, 07:45 AM	#33 (permalink)
69_Danny_69 Tosa Nakaai Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 70	Shyeagle, I hope you do not cook with that pine, it puts off fumes that are respatory and health concerns. The other fruit woods you mentioned are great. tsalaghisam, I used to live where there was Cottonwood and verdy . Verdy burned really hot!!!I bought a new grill one time and couldn't afford wood so I picked up some dried verdy. It burned so hot it burndt the heat resistant paint right off my new grill. After it burndt down it made some very fine very long lasting coals. The meat was great cooked over them too!!!

11-13-2005, 12:29 AM	#34 (permalink)
shyeagle Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: soaring with eagles Posts: 168	hi danny 69 thanks for advice, we,ve been making fires with pine , and cooking for many years, havent got sick yet, or lung troubles, but i know in the that a lot of native,s in the old days died of black lung, because of fires, there is this different pine hear in aussie. its a native pine not like nrth. american, its called malleepine or murray pine i think similar smell to american cedar, its makes a geat burning wood, and smells terrific, it grows in the mallee and desert areas, its protected now nearly wiped out by farmers, so now starting to come back, wouid be great for smudging and i know this ones not toxic. wado shy eagle

11-13-2005, 01:02 AM	#35 (permalink)
69_Danny_69 Tosa Nakaai Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 70	shyeagle, That is great. The pine I was speaking of is the white and yellow pine that grows in East Texas. You really would not be safe breathing it. I am glad you set my mind at ease, you had me worried. Danny Tosa Nakaai