What do you think

Galvquodisgv · 04-09-2006, 06:33 PM

okay so last night i came home from a powwow andgot into a huge argument with my parents over how involved i am with the native community. their main point was that "being native is not a big deal and the fact that i am shuold not be put out in the open unless there is reason for it", and that" i should distance myself from my native friends"! does this seem unreasonable to anybody else or am i just to mad to see their justification?(sp) i know that they have never been into their culture but is that any reason to keep me from mine? idk what do you all think?

iyunkcawanbli · 04-10-2006, 09:46 AM

being native at least in my eyes is an honor, but we live in a white world now and people expect us to be just like them. I belive that you should not forget who you are but to be honored to be such, but be prideful of it too often have i seen people boasting about being more blood or having darker skin so they are "better than me". I think your parents are just trying to keep you from becoming prideful. And mot importantly remember that as long as our songs and stories are in your heart you are always a native.

-until next time-

**WocusWoman** · 04-10-2006, 01:07 PM

This is sad to me. I don't know what your age is; but there will always be a time and place to par-take in your traditions. I know it is hard right now being a dependant under the rule of thumb of parents, but you do need to be respectful. Maybe that is not the real issue. Are the native friends you hang around with participating in the cultural aspects of the events; and are they good influences. Or are they just hanging around, drinking and smoking and be dis-respectful? I would hope they are positive. Sometimes as teens, you don't always get your way, and I think thats too bad your parents aren't bringing you to these events themselves, but just as much as I choose to go to all and any native gatherings, your parents have the right to dis-regard these things. Keep a positive mind, and know that you will be free to become your own person one day; that time passes fast, and don't do anything to make the situation worse.

Galvquodisgv · 04-10-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WocusWoman

This is sad to me. I don't know what your age is; but there will always be a time and place to par-take in your traditions. I know it is hard right now being a dependant under the rule of thumb of parents, but you do need to be respectful. Maybe that is not the real issue. Are the native friends you hang around with participating in the cultural aspects of the events; and are they good influences. Or are they just hanging around, drinking and smoking and be dis-respectful? I would hope they are positive. Sometimes as teens, you don't always get your way, and I think thats too bad your parents aren't bringing you to these events themselves, but just as much as I choose to go to all and any native gatherings, your parents have the right to dis-regard these things. Keep a positive mind, and know that you will be free to become your own person one day; that time passes fast, and don't do anything to make the situation worse.

See thats the thing the friends i hang around now are great influences they are a major improvment from the kids i used to hang out with so i dont really see the problem. I mean i know that niether of my parents are really proud of being native but i dont see what the problem with me being proud of where i come from is as long as i am acting the way i should, ya know? I try and be respectful but my dad always brings up the subject and starts an argument, even when i tell him that i dont want to fight he makes it out to be like i am disrespecting him. i just dont get it.

**WocusWoman** · 04-10-2006, 08:32 PM

I wish you all the best. Just be patient.

oufeehc · 04-17-2006, 01:34 PM

so yeah
i have no idea where to begin. my family has always been proud to be native, so i cant really help you with that. my dad is an artist, and i've always been around non-indians. really, your parents sound like they are (excuse me for saying) apples. you know? and if you remember, being native poses at least two snagging points for you: first, the older ones have always taught children to be respectful to our parents, as it should be. but then again, being native entails being true to one'self, and proud of being who you are. tell them that not everyone is lucky enough to have a culture. that's what i think. thanks for the oppertuinity to reply!

tiffany.redfeather · 09-24-2006, 03:56 AM

well i have been raised myself out of tradish. i am learning my self but my heart has always been the same.....true! keep it there, and follow lifes beacons! being a native is a true honor.
your parents are probably in that boat to were they might be ashamed to be, or are tired of being native? maybe they have had alot of prejudice? it used to be really bad....the further you go bak in time....the worse it gets

we have some native mounds here where i live that some rich golfers are renting from the state, and charge a fotune to join the club....so you cannot go see.....but we are fighting!
you keep alive and kickin and you keep that fighting fire deep in your soul grryyllii!! just remember that after you turn 18... is your chance to shine!

you are but a precious rose bud, waiting to bloom.....you have to be patient and wait till it is time for you shine with all your radiance. like iyunkcawanbli said... dont take pride in yourself, we are all equal in creators eyes. just know who you are and where you came from.

take these tips hun! this is what i grew up on, an many ppl wish they had done what i have....

stay true to your heart
repsect for all, including you and your body
never do drugs an alchohol
keep an (online) journal to vent, or have friends
stay abstinate (always second too)
walk in beauty (see beauty in everything)
be postitive when all possible
learn from everything around you
listen to all who have wisdom(think sponge)
have empathy(put you in their shoes)
tolerate and ignore negitivity
think outside the box
love unconditionally

but most of all......

BE OPENMINDED!! :LOL:

you have a long life ahead of you chic! much to enjoy!
one of my life long dreams has come true this past month!
ive become an unofficial powwow vendor, i sell my jewelry and crafts i make *grinnin ear to ear* someday you can too!

"we are all in the gutter, just some look to the stars"

my mother never wanted me to go to the powwows. it was my father who kinda showed me the way....to a point>
my relitives excaped off the rez back in the day, so not only do i not know which nation i am, but cannot prove it either....
i only know one and that is cuz he changed his name to a white name, so they told him he was a white man then and made him white on paper......he knew who he was....

and that is all that matters!

feel free to vent to me sis! k!

04-09-2006, 06:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Galvquodisgv Bradley T's Girl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 60	What do you think okay so last night i came home from a powwow andgot into a huge argument with my parents over how involved i am with the native community. their main point was that "being native is not a big deal and the fact that i am shuold not be put out in the open unless there is reason for it", and that" i should distance myself from my native friends"! does this seem unreasonable to anybody else or am i just to mad to see their justification?(sp) i know that they have never been into their culture but is that any reason to keep me from mine? idk what do you all think?

09-24-2006, 03:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
tiffany.redfeather walk your talk Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: central ohio, region of the moundbuilders Posts: 4,689 Blog Entries: 2	well i have been raised myself out of tradish. i am learning my self but my heart has always been the same.....true! keep it there, and follow lifes beacons! being a native is a true honor. your parents are probably in that boat to were they might be ashamed to be, or are tired of being native? maybe they have had alot of prejudice? it used to be really bad....the further you go bak in time....the worse it gets we have some native mounds here where i live that some rich golfers are renting from the state, and charge a fotune to join the club....so you cannot go see.....but we are fighting! you keep alive and kickin and you keep that fighting fire deep in your soul grryyllii!! just remember that after you turn 18... is your chance to shine! you are but a precious rose bud, waiting to bloom.....you have to be patient and wait till it is time for you shine with all your radiance. like iyunkcawanbli said... dont take pride in yourself, we are all equal in creators eyes. just know who you are and where you came from. take these tips hun! this is what i grew up on, an many ppl wish they had done what i have.... stay true to your heart repsect for all, including you and your body never do drugs an alchohol keep an (online) journal to vent, or have friends stay abstinate (always second too) walk in beauty (see beauty in everything) be postitive when all possible learn from everything around you listen to all who have wisdom(think sponge) have empathy(put you in their shoes) tolerate and ignore negitivity think outside the box love unconditionally but most of all...... BE OPENMINDED!! :LOL: you have a long life ahead of you chic! much to enjoy! one of my life long dreams has come true this past month! ive become an unofficial powwow vendor, i sell my jewelry and crafts i make grinnin ear to ear someday you can too! "we are all in the gutter, just some look to the stars" my mother never wanted me to go to the powwows. it was my father who kinda showed me the way....to a point> my relitives excaped off the rez back in the day, so not only do i not know which nation i am, but cannot prove it either.... i only know one and that is cuz he changed his name to a white name, so they told him he was a white man then and made him white on paper......he knew who he was.... and that is all that matters! feel free to vent to me sis! k! __________________ im a single strait edge... and im chaste....(2 reasons i cant keep a guy) sometimes you have to live life as if what everyone else thinks does not matter, but is still a factor... that even though you think you are so lost, you may be found... no matter what comes in your life, it will be over come... and that the real reason that you live is for love, and finding him... tiffany jones live free for what its worth an never let life hold you back from living http://www.myspace.com/hawkredfeather630 http://featheradriftonajourneysosacred.blogspot.com/

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04-10-2006, 09:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
iyunkcawanbli mens traditonal dancer Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31	being native at least in my eyes is an honor, but we live in a white world now and people expect us to be just like them. I belive that you should not forget who you are but to be honored to be such, but be prideful of it too often have i seen people boasting about being more blood or having darker skin so they are "better than me". I think your parents are just trying to keep you from becoming prideful. And mot importantly remember that as long as our songs and stories are in your heart you are always a native. -until next time-

04-10-2006, 01:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,693	This is sad to me. I don't know what your age is; but there will always be a time and place to par-take in your traditions. I know it is hard right now being a dependant under the rule of thumb of parents, but you do need to be respectful. Maybe that is not the real issue. Are the native friends you hang around with participating in the cultural aspects of the events; and are they good influences. Or are they just hanging around, drinking and smoking and be dis-respectful? I would hope they are positive. Sometimes as teens, you don't always get your way, and I think thats too bad your parents aren't bringing you to these events themselves, but just as much as I choose to go to all and any native gatherings, your parents have the right to dis-regard these things. Keep a positive mind, and know that you will be free to become your own person one day; that time passes fast, and don't do anything to make the situation worse.

04-10-2006, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,693	I wish you all the best. Just be patient.

04-17-2006, 01:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
oufeehc ???????? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: santa fe Posts: 76	so yeah i have no idea where to begin. my family has always been proud to be native, so i cant really help you with that. my dad is an artist, and i've always been around non-indians. really, your parents sound like they are (excuse me for saying) apples. you know? and if you remember, being native poses at least two snagging points for you: first, the older ones have always taught children to be respectful to our parents, as it should be. but then again, being native entails being true to one'self, and proud of being who you are. tell them that not everyone is lucky enough to have a culture. that's what i think. thanks for the oppertuinity to reply!

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