Wanna Be's or could be's? - Page 2

DungHill · 02-27-2003, 01:56 AM

Yeah, I was joking too.... Hes a fair singer. I think he could use a bit more practice on them rough spots.

singing_badass · 02-27-2003, 03:27 PM

okay i have to lend my 2 cents here!
I do think you all have gotten way off track here.......its crazy to read these posts and see that some people have the nerve to give out peoples names up in here. I mean .......damn.....some people are fair and most are not! My point is ....you read alot of smut that is not always true.....and is jealously coming through!

To reply to SBZ......I think its all about where you are and the atmosphere...........for example you go to the east coast and you'll see ALL KINDS OF CREATURES sitting at the drum. lol.
But when you come home its all real.....and the HOBBIEST that you see at commerical powwows are not at the drum around here.....because they are out of their element....or they should feel out of place! and yeah sometimes i think head singers are too kind or should i say shy to correct some people. For instance what would you do??? If a black guy (someone you didnt know) came up to sit at your drum .....when you're headsinger!

BrownHornet · 02-27-2003, 03:57 PM

I agree with singing-badass...Too many names posted here. Believe it or not some people dont like to see their names splattered all over cyberspace.

BH

SBZ4life · 02-27-2003, 06:14 PM

well....If a "non" native sits at the drum, if he wants to learn then he has the right to sit there, you gotta have a want to and you also have to have a gift of singing, I believe.

And about people splattering names all on the internet or on this powwows.com deal. I said NO names to start with....

medicineboisingincuz · 05-25-2004, 07:21 PM

ok im overhere on the eastcoast and thats all there is in ga is hobbiest. nevertheless this is also where berky monoessy lives.so whats the problem with hobbiest powwwos? everything is what you make of it. a name is a name. thats all it is. a powwow is a powwow. u r the one that creates the good feeling and good healing atmosphere. no me i've been singin around a buncha cominatches ma hole life and i'd consider myself comanche before cherokee. but.... the way i was taught was u open that drum to anyone who will respect it, sing on it, serve it, and treat it right. jus cuz a guy got skillz dont mean u cut him down. u give him constructive critiscism. give him a designated spot to sing on if need be(i hate when its offbeat too). its all about singin the right song for them dancers to tell their stories. so u give em songs to dance to and if someone wants to sit in you let them help u serve them dancers. thas jus wut ive been taught.(victor tachiweika,berky and neil mo, kahoo burgess, rc mowatt. im out yall il be in lawton july 4th then its off too cortez. lata

kiowa captive · 05-26-2004, 12:22 AM

BH,

You sound just like some one I know!

but, I think that if you can sing you can sing if you can't everyone knows the second a sound comes out of your mouth, I only know of a hand full of non Indian singers that can sing and most of them are truely nice guys that would help you out in'a second. and love singing!

Wheres the love!

TacO5000 · 05-26-2004, 03:16 AM

I've noticed that when you have a white guy or black guy it doesn't sound the samn as when its all NDN around the drum.
And the younger NDN singers of today don't sound like the old heads? Myself I enjoy sitting at a drum looking around and seeing all skins.... Always gives me a good feeling!

**billyjoejimbob** · 05-26-2004, 12:27 PM

NDNTACO - I agree, I can always pics out white guys singing from Indian. NDN singers have that certain sound.

BROWNHORNET - I also agree with you about the being humble and all the other points you brought. A lot of this is overlooked nowadays.

kiowa captive · 05-26-2004, 10:01 PM

You must be from OK, I am white as they Get and I can sing Indian with any of them, BH won't reply. but I will if you see me you will know Me, 6'5, 290, Red hair and proud to be a Kiowa Captive if you see me at a pow wow come and say Hi.

If you have Problem come up after the dance and see me, will talk.. No problem.

Dan,

come see Me say hi tough Guy!

western_wishes · 05-27-2004, 02:27 AM

all i gots to say is that
Drew Armstrong
Bo Limbaugh
Marvin ? (from Texas)
can sing with the best of them no matter what!!! they got the teachings, the respect, and the humbleness(is that a word) and thats all you need!!!

travelingmocs · 05-27-2004, 02:38 AM

Singing is a powerfull thing, and I see alot of people, white and indian just get out there and beat the hell out of the drum and try to sing. Now I am no expert on singing. But there is alot being lost out there at the drum. I do not think it shoud matter as to what your skin color is but how hard you work to sing the right way.

Now some indians will yell at me for what i say, and thats fine they have that right. But I hear veteran songs being used for contest and all types of stuff going on around a drum that should not happen. As BH said singings need to learn about being humble and respectfull to the drum, and learn to be a servant to the dancer

05-27-2004, 11:55 AM

expert huh......LMao

Vision_Dreamer · 05-27-2004, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndn_ave

go help them out .................................AYE!

I agree with you , if they can't sing help them out, everything happens for a reason, so obvisioly they're there to learn, Creator knows what's best he will ultimatly let you know what to do...

durty-kawdayz49 · 05-28-2004, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelingmocs

Singing is a powerfull thing, and I see alot of people, white and indian just get out there and beat the hell out of the drum and try to sing. Now I am no expert on singing. But there is alot being lost out there at the drum. I do not think it shoud matter as to what your skin color is but how hard you work to sing the right way.

Now some indians will yell at me for what i say, and thats fine they have that right. But I hear veteran songs being used for contest and all types of stuff going on around a drum that should not happen. As BH said singings need to learn about being humble and respectfull to the drum, and learn to be a servant to the dancer

Veteran songs as contest songs?? you must started those contest songs? Depending on certain songs the way you sing it, makes it either a war dance song or veterans song. Take my family song for instant when you sing it stright(No Words) it is a song that can be used for intertribal or contest. If you throw the words in it then it becomes a veteran song....
When it comes to beating the drum there are drummers and there are singers. I have been told to sing as hard as I hit the drum. Thas what I do. After a weekend of singing I can hardly talk thas how I do it ya know!

Durty

ScarFace · 06-09-2004, 11:12 PM

I think Singing bad *** Is full of horse dung!!!!!!!!!
Sorry only kidding!!!!!!!
NOT REALLY!!!!!!!

ScarFace · 06-09-2004, 11:14 PM

Don't let insiders say the wrong title!!!!!!!!

Fancy Maiden · 06-10-2004, 11:45 AM

what makes me mad is when there is a good singer on a drum and he gets mad at the head singer and decides that he is goin to sit at the drum with his mouth shut and drum off beat. And I hear the other guys on the drum saying that he is just trouble, and he is! Thats my two!

02-27-2003, 01:56 AM	#21 (permalink)
DungHill Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Roswell,N.M. Posts: 12	Yeah, I was joking too.... Hes a fair singer. I think he could use a bit more practice on them rough spots. Last edited by DungHill; 02-27-2003 at 01:59 AM.

02-27-2003, 06:14 PM	#24 (permalink)
SBZ4life ~Southernz Elite~ Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Room 112 Posts: 799	well....If a "non" native sits at the drum, if he wants to learn then he has the right to sit there, you gotta have a want to and you also have to have a gift of singing, I believe. And about people splattering names all on the internet or on this powwows.com deal. I said NO names to start with.... __________________ :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles: " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

05-25-2004, 07:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
medicineboisingincuz junior dancer/singer Join Date: May 2004 Location: mcdonough ga Posts: 5	here ya go ok im overhere on the eastcoast and thats all there is in ga is hobbiest. nevertheless this is also where berky monoessy lives.so whats the problem with hobbiest powwwos? everything is what you make of it. a name is a name. thats all it is. a powwow is a powwow. u r the one that creates the good feeling and good healing atmosphere. no me i've been singin around a buncha cominatches ma hole life and i'd consider myself comanche before cherokee. but.... the way i was taught was u open that drum to anyone who will respect it, sing on it, serve it, and treat it right. jus cuz a guy got skillz dont mean u cut him down. u give him constructive critiscism. give him a designated spot to sing on if need be(i hate when its offbeat too). its all about singin the right song for them dancers to tell their stories. so u give em songs to dance to and if someone wants to sit in you let them help u serve them dancers. thas jus wut ive been taught.(victor tachiweika,berky and neil mo, kahoo burgess, rc mowatt. im out yall il be in lawton july 4th then its off too cortez. lata __________________ "I AM THE WOLVERINE!!!!" "the only thing worse than ndns on tv, is ndns watchin ndns on tv" "ur dad was was the perfect hippie, cuz all the hippies were trying to be ndn's newayz."

05-26-2004, 12:22 AM	#26 (permalink)
kiowa captive f you! Join Date: May 2004 Location: my Car Posts: 12	what the ehll! BH, You sound just like some one I know! but, I think that if you can sing you can sing if you can't everyone knows the second a sound comes out of your mouth, I only know of a hand full of non Indian singers that can sing and most of them are truely nice guys that would help you out in'a second. and love singing! Wheres the love!

05-26-2004, 03:16 AM	#27 (permalink)
TacO5000 shesaysshelikesmy Dougie! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 624	I've noticed that when you have a white guy or black guy it doesn't sound the samn as when its all NDN around the drum. And the younger NDN singers of today don't sound like the old heads? Myself I enjoy sitting at a drum looking around and seeing all skins.... Always gives me a good feeling! __________________ Dayum I make some keen DrumSticks!!!!!!

02-27-2003, 03:27 PM	#22 (permalink)
singing_badass Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 29	okay i have to lend my 2 cents here! I do think you all have gotten way off track here.......its crazy to read these posts and see that some people have the nerve to give out peoples names up in here. I mean .......damn.....some people are fair and most are not! My point is ....you read alot of smut that is not always true.....and is jealously coming through! To reply to SBZ......I think its all about where you are and the atmosphere...........for example you go to the east coast and you'll see ALL KINDS OF CREATURES sitting at the drum. lol. But when you come home its all real.....and the HOBBIEST that you see at commerical powwows are not at the drum around here.....because they are out of their element....or they should feel out of place! and yeah sometimes i think head singers are too kind or should i say shy to correct some people. For instance what would you do??? If a black guy (someone you didnt know) came up to sit at your drum .....when you're headsinger!

02-27-2003, 03:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
BrownHornet Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: under a rock Posts: 59	I agree with singing-badass...Too many names posted here. Believe it or not some people dont like to see their names splattered all over cyberspace. BH

05-26-2004, 12:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
billyjoejimbob Fat Singer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: white guy land Posts: 1,526	NDNTACO - I agree, I can always pics out white guys singing from Indian. NDN singers have that certain sound. BROWNHORNET - I also agree with you about the being humble and all the other points you brought. A lot of this is overlooked nowadays.

05-26-2004, 10:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
kiowa captive f you! Join Date: May 2004 Location: my Car Posts: 12	DUUUUhhh! the white guy at the drum is always White no Sh t dumb A You must be from OK, I am white as they Get and I can sing Indian with any of them, BH won't reply. but I will if you see me you will know Me, 6'5, 290, Red hair and proud to be a Kiowa Captive if you see me at a pow wow come and say Hi. If you have Problem come up after the dance and see me, will talk.. No problem. Dan, come see Me say hi tough Guy!

05-27-2004, 02:27 AM	#30 (permalink)
western_wishes Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 38	all i gots to say is that Drew Armstrong Bo Limbaugh Marvin ? (from Texas) can sing with the best of them no matter what!!! they got the teachings, the respect, and the humbleness(is that a word) and thats all you need!!!

05-27-2004, 02:38 AM	#31 (permalink)
travelingmocs Teen Dancer Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: HogPit, U.S.A. and raised in hell Posts: 293	Being Humble Singing is a powerfull thing, and I see alot of people, white and indian just get out there and beat the hell out of the drum and try to sing. Now I am no expert on singing. But there is alot being lost out there at the drum. I do not think it shoud matter as to what your skin color is but how hard you work to sing the right way. Now some indians will yell at me for what i say, and thats fine they have that right. But I hear veteran songs being used for contest and all types of stuff going on around a drum that should not happen. As BH said singings need to learn about being humble and respectfull to the drum, and learn to be a servant to the dancer __________________ If I do not know the answer someone else will!!!! Also forgive me, this system does not have a spell check so forgive the bad spelling Last edited by travelingmocs; 05-27-2004 at 05:53 PM.

05-27-2004, 11:55 AM	#32 (permalink)
bl@ckfoothoney Guest Posts: n/a	expert huh......LMao

06-09-2004, 11:12 PM	#35 (permalink)
ScarFace gct Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: cmart Posts: 50	Horse dung!!!!!!! I think Singing bad *** Is full of horse dung!!!!!!!!! Sorry only kidding!!!!!!! NOT REALLY!!!!!!!

06-09-2004, 11:14 PM	#36 (permalink)
ScarFace gct Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: cmart Posts: 50	Sorry web master But Horse Dungg!!!!!!!!! Don't let insiders say the wrong title!!!!!!!!

06-10-2004, 11:45 AM	#37 (permalink)
Fancy Maiden Junior Dancer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 180	what makes me mad is when there is a good singer on a drum and he gets mad at the head singer and decides that he is goin to sit at the drum with his mouth shut and drum off beat. And I hear the other guys on the drum saying that he is just trouble, and he is! Thats my two! __________________ Why we dance......... we dance to pray, we pray to heal, we heal to live, we live to dance!