Up and Coming Southern Groups

RedShield · 07-22-2006, 03:27 AM

I was reading over on the Northern thread and this idea caught my attention...

Who are the up and coming Southern Groups in your area? Who has the potential to be the next Cozad, Southern Boys, Sizzortail or Youngbird?

As for me... the best Southern Drum we see up here in Ohio is Sterling and his crew White Hawk out of Chicago. They ain't new but not one of the big names yet.

suthernwaterbird · 08-01-2006, 05:13 PM

Wyld Band of Comanches...Black Bear Creek

then theres always Waterbird...from ATL, recently relocating to Lawton OK...

old bull · 08-02-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by suthernwaterbird

Wyld Band of Comanches...Black Bear Creek

then theres always Waterbird...from ATL, recently relocating to Lawton OK...

GOOD ONE JAKE BUT WATCH THE HEAD SWELLING

travelingmocs · 08-03-2006, 03:58 PM

To be honest I am sick of everyone trying to get a drum group together and then make a few "original" songs and then put out a CD in a few months. When I was last in Oklahoma it was a blast, there was the two head singers, and then evryone who came to help them out. It was great, I loved it.

Cozads. Southern Thunder, and so will all have there places in the powwow world. But some times I think groups are put together for the wrongs reasons, and those reasons are green ones.

Sorry but thats just my view point....................

Ivanasnagu · 08-03-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by travelingmocs

To be honest I am sick of everyone trying to get a drum group together and then make a few "original" songs and then put out a CD in a few months. When I was last in Oklahoma it was a blast, there was the two head singers, and then evryone who came to help them out. It was great, I loved it.

Cozads. Southern Thunder, and so will all have there places in the powwow world. But some times I think groups are put together for the wrongs reasons, and those reasons are green ones.

Sorry but thats just my view point....................

Are you implying that Cozads & Southern Thunder put their groups together for the WRONG reasons, and those reasons are green ones? That is insulting! I think that most drums that put their music out for the public want to share their songs and encourage young singers to learn. That's my opinion. When you were last in Oklahoma and there was two head singers and everyone who came out to help them, blah blah blah, the head singers were probably one of the Cozad, Southern Thunder, Rose Hill, or Yellow Hammer singers. The idea of drum groups is to take music for the people and to share with the people. Unfortunately, only commercial recorders are available for distribution hence the charge. They can't be making that much on CD sales to quit their day jobs. Give me a break.

Sorry but thats just my view point.

LSS · 08-03-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by travelingmocs

Cozads. Southern Thunder, and so will all have there places in the powwow world. But some times I think groups are put together for the wrongs reasons, and those reasons are green ones.

I.,

I didn't get that impression when I first read his post. I got that he was saying how over time the younger groups, who are doing it for the right reasons, will have "their time" like Cozads, Southern Thunder, etc. It's often a family affair and it took years of hard work. I can honestly say from experience, I have seen young men come around the drum thinking its all glamour, women & recreational activities. From my personal experiences, these are some of the "green reasons" I assume he references.

Not enough people these days put in the time and energy...you often hear of the gossip that goes along w/ people coming in and moving on from one drum. As a testimony to the truth of putting in your time, I'm just now starting to see how things work out for the better after putting in ~10 years. And I have a long road ahead of me!

LSS

old bull · 08-04-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LSS

I.,

I didn't get that impression when I first read his post. I got that he was saying how over time the younger groups, who are doing it for the right reasons, will have "their time" like Cozads, Southern Thunder, etc. It's often a family affair and it took years of hard work. I can honestly say from experience, I have seen young men come around the drum thinking its all glamour, women & recreational activities. From my personal experiences, these are some of the "green reasons" I assume he references.

Not enough people these days put in the time and energy...you often hear of the gossip that goes along w/ people coming in and moving on from one drum. As a testimony to the truth of putting in your time, I'm just now starting to see how things work out for the better after putting in ~10 years. And I have a long road ahead of me!

LSS

my point exactly well said

Ivanasnagu · 08-04-2006, 12:03 PM

Okay guys, I misunderstood, I'm sorry. I was thinking about Mandaree, Cozads, Battle River, Southern Thunder, Yellow Hammer, Rose Hill, Stoney Park, the Tyners, all my favorite musicians. I have so much respect fot these older singers that I got a little defensive about the green backs. With all said, they all bring a good spirit to any arena, whether singing all together at the big drum or as drum groups.

mnx_str8_up · 08-04-2006, 12:24 PM

i dunno too much about the groups "lives".........dont really wanna know either..............but i do know i love music..........especially good music.............so i enjoy listenein' to yellowhammer,cozads,southern thunder,whitetail,sbz,yb................as for up-n-coming groups............i like thunderhill(boys be jammin'!!)............and a group of shorties called blackbear creek............ya'll keep puttin' out the music,and i'll continue to listen...........to the music,not the drama

LSS · 08-04-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mnx_str8_up

ya'll keep puttin' out the music,and i'll continue to listen...........to the music,not the drama

Thats exactly what you have to do....not listen to the drama.

wa-zha-zhe · 08-04-2006, 06:12 PM

WYLD BUNCH OF COMMANCHES set up at Stroud this year and they were jammin'.
These singers will make you want to dance!
They bring out the best, natural moves a dancer has. They're music was fun to dance too.

They start their songs out high and they continue to climb every time through.

AWESOME SINGING GROUP!!!!

SPINNA · 08-07-2006, 04:37 PM

Most of the singers I know that started a drum, did so because of the love of it...not any glamour or money. I mean it aint that much money or glamour in it. Ive been around guys that have started groups at very young ages, and it was because of pure love of singing! I guess there may be some guys out there looking for glamour and money...well...good luck, because unlike popular music industry, you aint gonna get rich off our music!

stillrezin · 08-09-2006, 01:27 AM

THUNDERHILL

enuff said.

juss cuzz some r my budz.

and they can kick out some jammin' tunes.

LSS · 08-09-2006, 12:54 PM

I've gotta throw out Southern Sun from NC. They've done very well at the larger pow wows they're starting to get out at.

Good job boys (and girls)! Keep up the good work!

07-22-2006, 03:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
RedShield Singer/ Dancer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,474	Up and Coming Southern Groups I was reading over on the Northern thread and this idea caught my attention... Who are the up and coming Southern Groups in your area? Who has the potential to be the next Cozad, Southern Boys, Sizzortail or Youngbird? As for me... the best Southern Drum we see up here in Ohio is Sterling and his crew White Hawk out of Chicago. They ain't new but not one of the big names yet. __________________ I became a singer because I love to sing... and to feed my addiction to cough drops!

08-01-2006, 05:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
suthernwaterbird nobody Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: atl, ga Posts: 1,004	Wyld Band of Comanches...Black Bear Creek then theres always Waterbird...from ATL, recently relocating to Lawton OK... __________________ WhY yOu AsK? bEcUz We CaN!

08-03-2006, 03:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
travelingmocs Teen Dancer Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: HogPit, U.S.A. and raised in hell Posts: 293	To be honest I am sick of everyone trying to get a drum group together and then make a few "original" songs and then put out a CD in a few months. When I was last in Oklahoma it was a blast, there was the two head singers, and then evryone who came to help them out. It was great, I loved it. Cozads. Southern Thunder, and so will all have there places in the powwow world. But some times I think groups are put together for the wrongs reasons, and those reasons are green ones. Sorry but thats just my view point.................... __________________ If I do not know the answer someone else will!!!! Also forgive me, this system does not have a spell check so forgive the bad spelling

08-04-2006, 06:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
wa-zha-zhe Senior Dancer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: pawhuska, ok Posts: 642	WYLD BUNCH OF COMMANCHES set up at Stroud this year and they were jammin'. These singers will make you want to dance! They bring out the best, natural moves a dancer has. They're music was fun to dance too. They start their songs out high and they continue to climb every time through. AWESOME SINGING GROUP!!!! __________________ wa-zha-zhe

08-09-2006, 12:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
LSS Sappling! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 870	I've gotta throw out Southern Sun from NC. They've done very well at the larger pow wows they're starting to get out at. Good job boys (and girls)! Keep up the good work! __________________ To get a true picture of your purpose in life, you only get the whole picture when you listen with your mind, your ears and your heart. This way The Creator has a direct connection with you and only you...no outside interference. When you follow the will of IT that created you, understanding that your purpose is not for you...but for IT and all that IT has created, there can be no wrong except failure to be obedient. Only then do we jeopardize the gifts we are given. Its not the final destination that defines us, rather the journey taken!

08-04-2006, 12:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ivanasnagu Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 171	Okay guys, I misunderstood, I'm sorry. I was thinking about Mandaree, Cozads, Battle River, Southern Thunder, Yellow Hammer, Rose Hill, Stoney Park, the Tyners, all my favorite musicians. I have so much respect fot these older singers that I got a little defensive about the green backs. With all said, they all bring a good spirit to any arena, whether singing all together at the big drum or as drum groups.

08-04-2006, 12:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
mnx_str8_up powwow professional Join Date: May 2006 Location: the land 10,000 side steps!! Posts: 53	i dunno too much about the groups "lives".........dont really wanna know either..............but i do know i love music..........especially good music.............so i enjoy listenein' to yellowhammer,cozads,southern thunder,whitetail,sbz,yb................as for up-n-coming groups............i like thunderhill(boys be jammin'!!)............and a group of shorties called blackbear creek............ya'll keep puttin' out the music,and i'll continue to listen...........to the music,not the drama

08-07-2006, 04:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
SPINNA Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 38	Most of the singers I know that started a drum, did so because of the love of it...not any glamour or money. I mean it aint that much money or glamour in it. Ive been around guys that have started groups at very young ages, and it was because of pure love of singing! I guess there may be some guys out there looking for glamour and money...well...good luck, because unlike popular music industry, you aint gonna get rich off our music!

08-09-2006, 01:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
stillrezin REZIN RIDE Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 3rd tipi on the left just past the broken down car and the pack of rez dogs chasing horse's Posts: 31,218 Blog Entries: 4	THUNDERHILL enuff said. juss cuzz some r my budz. and they can kick out some jammin' tunes.