New Drum Needs Advise...Drum Songs...

Brackett481 · 01-23-2006, 06:26 PM

Hi everybody. I am new to the site but not the drum. I have recently started a new drum, but have only a limited number of songs of my own. I want to ask what the proper etiquette is on getting songs. I have been on a drum for the past 6 years, but none of the songs were mine, they were given to the drum itself.

If a song(s) is on a cd sold to the public, do can anyone or drum sing it? Should I still ask for permission?

I know that many of on here are drummers and singers who know the right ways, so if there is any advise or help you guys can give me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time, and I will see ya'll later.

WhoMe · 01-23-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brackett481

... I know that many of on here are drummers and know the right ways, so if there is any advise or help you guys can give me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Brackett,

I think there are also a few "singers" on here too! *L

LSS · 01-23-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brackett481

Hi everybody. I am new to the site but not the drum. I have recently started a new drum, but have only a limited number of songs of my own. I want to ask what the proper etiquette is on getting songs. I have been on a drum for the past 6 years, but none of the songs were mine, they were given to the drum itself.

If a song(s) is on a cd sold to the public, do can anyone or drum sing it? Should I still ask for permission?

I know that many of on here are drummers and singers who know the right ways, so if there is any advise or help you guys can give me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time, and I will see ya'll later.

Check your yahoo messenger,....I am sending you a personal messenger.

LSS · 01-23-2006, 07:34 PM

ok....scratch that.....my laptop here does not have yahoo here......

Typically if a song is on a recording.....i.e. commercially sold....it is ok to sing. HOWEVER, if you're gonna sing it, make sure you sing it correctly. For some people....singing word songs correctly comes easier while singing straight songs (vocable song) are easier for others......the ones you really need to make sure you sing correctly are the word songs. My suggestion to you is if you have some experience singing word songs....continue using your resources to pick up on those songs.

Be careful! I'm not sure if I should post this or not (and if I should edit this, I hope some of my trusted friends will let me know) but I found out this past weekend that a lot of the Ponca families are reclaiming their songs that have been recorded on commercial recordings. So, if you're singing ANY word song, make sure you know what it is saying and/or the story behind it. If someone gave you permission to sing it, make sure you remember who gave you that permission.

As a young singer you are gonna be eager to learn. Just remember you will continue to learn as you venture through your life as a singer. This means you will be subject to a lot of criticism and humility. Just take in stride and keep pluggin' away.

Rome was not conquered in a day!

Brackett481 · 01-23-2006, 10:29 PM

Thank you for your advise...

I was wondering, does anyone know the order of songs on the Scissortail cd "enuf said"

i have the cd but not the list that says what song number is what...

Also, any other input on my previous question would be appreciated...

thanks LSS

WhoMe · 01-24-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LSS

ok.... if you're singing ANY word song, make sure you know what it is saying and/or the story behind it. If someone gave you permission to sing it, make sure you remember who gave you that permission.

As a young singer you are gonna be eager to learn. Just remember you will continue to learn as you venture through your life as a singer.

Good sound advice LSS!

danbear · 01-24-2006, 01:26 PM

hey john, i've still got the original case i'll get the order to you some time i'll type it up and email it to you. i has heard something about ben possibly startin a drum is that you and him? well we'll holla man

danbear · 01-24-2006, 01:30 PM

you might be able to go to canyon records search for the disc and they nomally list the order of the songs there

WhoMe · 01-24-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brackett481

Thank you for your advise...

I was wondering, does anyone know the order of songs on the Scissortail cd "enuf said"

i have the cd but not the list that says what song number is what...

Also, any other input on my previous question would be appreciated...

thanks LSS

Brackett,

It is alway courteous to let a drum know that you are singing their songs. This is especially true if you are a forming a drum group and working on songs that you are going to sing at every powwow you attend.

A couple of Scissortail singers check this website from time-to-time.

suthernwaterbird · 01-30-2006, 01:41 PM

The way I was taught, is that when you pay that money for that cd, then you are paying for those songs. They are yours to sing, but sing them at the right times and sing them right, whether it be a vocabale song or word song. And WhoMe is right it is very courteous to let a drum know when you sing their songs, BUT they can't penalize you for it. Just remember to be humble about it.

WhoMe · 01-30-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by suthernwaterbird

The way I was taught, is that when you pay that money for that cd, then you are paying for those songs. They are yours to sing,

suthern,

Just making sure I heard you right...

For the price of a CD, the songs are yours?

LSS · 01-30-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe

suthern,

Just making sure I heard you right...

For the price of a CD, the songs are yours?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

suthernwaterbird · 01-30-2006, 10:23 PM

Good job! Did you figure that out, ALL by yourself? If you're going to mock me, at least do it intelligently, instead of sounding like an infomercial.

WhoMe · 01-31-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by suthernwaterbird

Good job! Did you figure that out, ALL by yourself? If you're going to mock me, at least do it intelligently, instead of sounding like an infomercial.

*L

According,

to,

your,

teachings....

IF, YOU, BUY, A, CD...

THE, SONGS, ARE, AUTOMATICALLY, YOURS???

(If you just got yourself backed into a corner, it's okay to tell the truth or... plead the 5th Amendment)

S'aalll Good!

01-23-2006, 06:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brackett481 Drummer and Dancer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Out of Style Southern State Posts: 27	New Drum Needs Advise...Drum Songs... Hi everybody. I am new to the site but not the drum. I have recently started a new drum, but have only a limited number of songs of my own. I want to ask what the proper etiquette is on getting songs. I have been on a drum for the past 6 years, but none of the songs were mine, they were given to the drum itself. If a song(s) is on a cd sold to the public, do can anyone or drum sing it? Should I still ask for permission? I know that many of on here are drummers and singers who know the right ways, so if there is any advise or help you guys can give me, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time, and I will see ya'll later. Last edited by Brackett481; 01-23-2006 at 06:40 PM.

01-23-2006, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
LSS Sappling! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 870	ok....scratch that.....my laptop here does not have yahoo here...... Typically if a song is on a recording.....i.e. commercially sold....it is ok to sing. HOWEVER, if you're gonna sing it, make sure you sing it correctly. For some people....singing word songs correctly comes easier while singing straight songs (vocable song) are easier for others......the ones you really need to make sure you sing correctly are the word songs. My suggestion to you is if you have some experience singing word songs....continue using your resources to pick up on those songs. Be careful! I'm not sure if I should post this or not (and if I should edit this, I hope some of my trusted friends will let me know) but I found out this past weekend that a lot of the Ponca families are reclaiming their songs that have been recorded on commercial recordings. So, if you're singing ANY word song, make sure you know what it is saying and/or the story behind it. If someone gave you permission to sing it, make sure you remember who gave you that permission. As a young singer you are gonna be eager to learn. Just remember you will continue to learn as you venture through your life as a singer. This means you will be subject to a lot of criticism and humility. Just take in stride and keep pluggin' away. Rome was not conquered in a day! __________________ To get a true picture of your purpose in life, you only get the whole picture when you listen with your mind, your ears and your heart. This way The Creator has a direct connection with you and only you...no outside interference. When you follow the will of IT that created you, understanding that your purpose is not for you...but for IT and all that IT has created, there can be no wrong except failure to be obedient. Only then do we jeopardize the gifts we are given. Its not the final destination that defines us, rather the journey taken!

01-23-2006, 10:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Brackett481 Drummer and Dancer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Out of Style Southern State Posts: 27	Thanks for the help... Thank you for your advise... I was wondering, does anyone know the order of songs on the Scissortail cd "enuf said" i have the cd but not the list that says what song number is what... Also, any other input on my previous question would be appreciated... thanks LSS

01-24-2006, 01:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
danbear CROW BEAR Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the woods Posts: 94	order of songs hey john, i've still got the original case i'll get the order to you some time i'll type it up and email it to you. i has heard something about ben possibly startin a drum is that you and him? well we'll holla man

01-24-2006, 01:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
danbear CROW BEAR Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the woods Posts: 94	cd you might be able to go to canyon records search for the disc and they nomally list the order of the songs there

01-30-2006, 01:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
suthernwaterbird nobody Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: atl, ga Posts: 1,004	The way I was taught, is that when you pay that money for that cd, then you are paying for those songs. They are yours to sing, but sing them at the right times and sing them right, whether it be a vocabale song or word song. And WhoMe is right it is very courteous to let a drum know when you sing their songs, BUT they can't penalize you for it. Just remember to be humble about it. __________________ WhY yOu AsK? bEcUz We CaN!

01-30-2006, 10:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
suthernwaterbird nobody Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: atl, ga Posts: 1,004	Good job! Did you figure that out, ALL by yourself? If you're going to mock me, at least do it intelligently, instead of sounding like an infomercial. __________________ WhY yOu AsK? bEcUz We CaN!