Which Is Better????? - Page 2

04-03-2002, 04:22 PM

Uh....

Idiot does not begin to describe 'em! :Chatter

CHEROSAGE · 04-06-2002, 03:31 AM

A good head singer will keep the drum together and will gather the right mix of help.

Speaking of Head Singers I have a problem with many of these people charging a lot of money and Motel rooms for their entire
help.

When I was younger I was given a rule of thumb to live by as an
Indian. When someone ask you for help give it if you are at the
least able . When I am asked to be on a Head Staff I will say yes if I am not already booked. I have taught this same thing to my
children. I have journeyed over a thousand miles to help a friend. We don't ask how much, just where and when.
My family help to sponsor a Powwow in our area. The expences come from our pockets and any funds raised at the dance. We are always looking for help from year to year. A very good friend has helped us for several years. He hasn't asked for much in return, this is the old way. Are there any others out there that aren't overly proud of the dollar but more interested in the traditions. Don't take this wrong, we share with our head staff the best we can.

Southernstr8 · 04-10-2002, 03:54 AM

Gotta be all together....as a dancer I really pick that stuff up when I am in the arena....if the singers are off, deffinately the drum beat but thats obvious, but when the singers vocals are off so am I...but when it all comes together, I get lost and dance like there is no tomorrow.

Thats a really common place thing up here, groups that aren't together enough to put it all together and if I can't feel it, it shows in my dancing...More than one time after a dance I'll be asked why I didn't just tear up the floor, and my response is that I just didn't feel it tonight.

pawtoeman · 04-10-2002, 10:55 PM

Togetherness and united voices. Nothing worse than a bad drum trying to be loud, like that will help improve the quality.

Just my 2 cents

sing2me · 04-12-2002, 01:04 AM

yeah...good singing....the kind that gets a woman singer out of her chair... walk all the way across the "dance floor" (aye)...just to sing with a group of men that have beautiful voices is always a good sign..........also.........as a woman singer.....to get your voice to match theirs.............oh baby!!!!:)

Smokin' Ace · 04-13-2002, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHEROSAGE
I VOTE FOR HARMONY AND THE SAME BEAT. I HAVE TRIED TO DANCE TO DRUMS THAT CAN'T KEEP A BEAT. USUALLY THE HEAD SINGER WILL REMEDY THE PROBLEM. THE GREATS DID. I'VE SEEN DRUMMERS LEAVE AND SINGERS STAY.

Man, that says it all, doesn't it? We have all seen "drummers" that dwindled away - but the singers stay forever!

RainyDaze49 · 11-03-2002, 12:47 AM

If a drum group can have the volume AND the be in synch then Ill buy theyre CD!!! It shows that they're well rounded group and that they care to practice and sound good for us dancers!!:p

11-03-2002, 01:49 AM

Togetherness is key. Volume will come into play as time progresses and you'll have a kicka$$ drum group.:Chatter

Native_Huney426 · 11-08-2002, 10:18 PM

TOGETHERNESS ALL THE WAY!!!! if ya not together ya get the dancers confused if they are really focusing on the beats and harmony besides the drum is the heart beat of the people so if its not together whats that going to say about the people?

they have microphones to make ya louder:p

SLW · 11-17-2002, 05:35 PM

I agree with everyone when they say that togetherness is the most important thing, volume is important only if they're already together, but if they're not together, it just doesn't sound as good...

**luvs2rodeo** · 11-24-2002, 04:58 AM

....togetherness...there aint nothing worse then trying to get down to one good song but theres several drum beat!!! Dam,I hate that...! And if the head singer was a good head singer he would have the sense to round up the fellas that were messing up the song...kick some A$$ and tell them to get straight or get to steppin'...!!!!!

Playahatah · 12-10-2002, 04:20 PM

Oneness for the goodness!! So, yes, I'm in agreement, let's have them boys kick out the jams together. Especially when they kick out them Gooooood songs!!

Loooo-loooooo-loooooooooo!! :dancer:

lumbee_phatkhat_gal · 02-07-2003, 12:06 AM

I dont belivie a Women or a man, Should get up an sing for a group, or play the drum, if they dont have it in there hearts. If they cant find the beat of the drum pounding in there hearts as the men play, i dont think they should stand behind a drummer an sing that song. Becuase i feel that the druman drummer is a important part of a Pow wow. And if they are off, then they'll throw everyone off. And that sounds really BAD. So i feel that they should be combined and sing together.

Lumbee_phatkhat_gal.

The_HULK · 02-07-2003, 03:01 PM

I think you have-ta have togetherness before volume.......

If you have that then you can work on becomming louder... It's not all about blasting out a tune, either....

Thats my opinion anyway.....

Just look at Cozad's.... There one of the better gruops out there.. And they have one, if not the most relaxed styles of singing that I've ever seen. And they still make me tap my toes.... and wanna get up outta my chair.

Kiiwedinong · 02-07-2003, 03:28 PM

Togethorness for sure. All singers have to know the song and have the same beat. No one should be out of tune and off beat. The rest will follow.

otoe_gurl · 02-12-2003, 12:10 AM

togetherness...
first thang to jammy jammin

Native_Sooner · 10-18-2004, 12:36 AM

NightHawks.....my uncle Henry Collins sings with them. Anywayz........U have to to have a sound when u sing. All these good groups that we talk about have a sound. I allwayz thought it was funny when u could hear one of your uncles over the rest of the group....lol......but yeah, theres nottin wrong with wanting to jam but when u can hear jus u singin i bout u goin to win the drum contest doin that.

View Poll Results: Which is better?????
Volume of a drum group	6	4.76%
Togetherness/voice matching of a drum group	120	95.24%
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04-06-2002, 03:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,341	A good head singer will keep the drum together and will gather the right mix of help. Speaking of Head Singers I have a problem with many of these people charging a lot of money and Motel rooms for their entire help. When I was younger I was given a rule of thumb to live by as an Indian. When someone ask you for help give it if you are at the least able . When I am asked to be on a Head Staff I will say yes if I am not already booked. I have taught this same thing to my children. I have journeyed over a thousand miles to help a friend. We don't ask how much, just where and when. My family help to sponsor a Powwow in our area. The expences come from our pockets and any funds raised at the dance. We are always looking for help from year to year. A very good friend has helped us for several years. He hasn't asked for much in return, this is the old way. Are there any others out there that aren't overly proud of the dollar but more interested in the traditions. Don't take this wrong, we share with our head staff the best we can. __________________ BOB

04-12-2002, 01:04 AM	#25 (permalink)
sing2me Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1	yeah...good singing....the kind that gets a woman singer out of her chair... walk all the way across the "dance floor" (aye)...just to sing with a group of men that have beautiful voices is always a good sign..........also.........as a woman singer.....to get your voice to match theirs.............oh baby!!!!:) __________________ A nation is not defeated until all the commods are gone...

11-03-2002, 12:47 AM	#27 (permalink)
RainyDaze49 ~Smile 4 me~ Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Great Turtle Island Yo! Posts: 997	I like em both!!! If a drum group can have the volume AND the be in synch then Ill buy theyre CD!!! It shows that they're well rounded group and that they care to practice and sound good for us dancers!!:p __________________ ..::First ever 2002-2003 Powwows.com Princess::.. ~~~* The original POWWOWCHIC49 ~~~ ~JINGLE IT~*

11-03-2002, 01:49 AM	#28 (permalink)
SNAGgles Guest Posts: n/a	Both are important Togetherness is key. Volume will come into play as time progresses and you'll have a kicka$$ drum group.:Chatter

04-03-2002, 04:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
loves southern singn' Guest Posts: n/a	Uh.... Idiot does not begin to describe 'em! :Chatter

04-10-2002, 03:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
Southernstr8 State of Confusion Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Palmer,AK USA Posts: 190	Gotta be all together....as a dancer I really pick that stuff up when I am in the arena....if the singers are off, deffinately the drum beat but thats obvious, but when the singers vocals are off so am I...but when it all comes together, I get lost and dance like there is no tomorrow. Thats a really common place thing up here, groups that aren't together enough to put it all together and if I can't feel it, it shows in my dancing...More than one time after a dance I'll be asked why I didn't just tear up the floor, and my response is that I just didn't feel it tonight.

04-10-2002, 10:55 PM	#24 (permalink)
pawtoeman Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Skinville Posts: 46	Togetherness and united voices. Nothing worse than a bad drum trying to be loud, like that will help improve the quality. Just my 2 cents

11-08-2002, 10:18 PM	#29 (permalink)
Native_Huney426 Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Detroit Michigan Posts: 26	TOGETHERNESS ALL THE WAY!!!! if ya not together ya get the dancers confused if they are really focusing on the beats and harmony besides the drum is the heart beat of the people so if its not together whats that going to say about the people? they have microphones to make ya louder:p

11-17-2002, 05:35 PM	#30 (permalink)
SLW Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 5	I agree with everyone when they say that togetherness is the most important thing, volume is important only if they're already together, but if they're not together, it just doesn't sound as good... __________________ :supperhap SLW :dancer:

11-24-2002, 04:58 AM	#31 (permalink)
luvs2rodeo PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,154	it's allabout togetherness ....togetherness...there aint nothing worse then trying to get down to one good song but theres several drum beat!!! Dam,I hate that...! And if the head singer was a good head singer he would have the sense to round up the fellas that were messing up the song...kick some A$$ and tell them to get straight or get to steppin'...!!!!! __________________ Never squat naked in spurs

12-10-2002, 04:20 PM	#32 (permalink)
Playahatah WHISTLE WHILE I WORK Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The right shoulder of Turtle Island Posts: 191	We are all ONE!! Oneness for the goodness!! So, yes, I'm in agreement, let's have them boys kick out the jams together. Especially when they kick out them Gooooood songs!! Loooo-loooooo-loooooooooo!! :dancer:

02-07-2003, 12:06 AM	#33 (permalink)
lumbee_phatkhat_gal Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern Sac. California. Posts: 1	I feel that it has to be in your heart. I dont belivie a Women or a man, Should get up an sing for a group, or play the drum, if they dont have it in there hearts. If they cant find the beat of the drum pounding in there hearts as the men play, i dont think they should stand behind a drummer an sing that song. Becuase i feel that the druman drummer is a important part of a Pow wow. And if they are off, then they'll throw everyone off. And that sounds really BAD. So i feel that they should be combined and sing together. Lumbee_phatkhat_gal. __________________ Im a Native American Lumbee, :chief: im 19 years old. I like going to Pow wow's. And meeting new Naive American people. Im a great person to meet. If you wold like to see me. You are free to . Enjoy.

02-07-2003, 03:01 PM	#34 (permalink)
The_HULK Pow-Wow Singer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On The Pow-Wow Circuit. Posts: 177	I think you have-ta have togetherness before volume....... If you have that then you can work on becomming louder... It's not all about blasting out a tune, either.... Thats my opinion anyway..... Just look at Cozad's.... There one of the better gruops out there.. And they have one, if not the most relaxed styles of singing that I've ever seen. And they still make me tap my toes.... and wanna get up outta my chair.

02-07-2003, 03:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
Kiiwedinong Head Singing Judge Join Date: May 2001 Location: LOTW Posts: 428	Togethorness for sure. All singers have to know the song and have the same beat. No one should be out of tune and off beat. The rest will follow.

02-12-2003, 12:10 AM	#36 (permalink)
otoe_gurl Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: OKLA/N. MEX. Posts: 23	i agree... togetherness... first thang to jammy jammin __________________ ~~OTOE GURL~~

10-18-2004, 12:36 AM	#37 (permalink)
Native_Sooner Muzzy Dancer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Da knee oklahoma Posts: 504	U have to have one sound!! NightHawks.....my uncle Henry Collins sings with them. Anywayz........U have to to have a sound when u sing. All these good groups that we talk about have a sound. I allwayz thought it was funny when u could hear one of your uncles over the rest of the group....lol......but yeah, theres nottin wrong with wanting to jam but when u can hear jus u singin i bout u goin to win the drum contest doin that.