Whos The Best Southern Thunder Or Cozad?

HOKAHEYGUY · 01-10-2004, 11:25 PM

WHOS THE BEST SOUTHERN THUNDER OR COZAD?

**Kiwehnzii** · 01-11-2004, 12:20 PM

They are both equal in the eyes of the Creator.

Dirty South · 01-12-2004, 04:07 PM

Do you mean the better of the the two? They are both good, but I wouldn't go as far as the best. I like the both of them, but I do tend to favor Cozads!

**billyjoejimbob** · 01-12-2004, 04:46 PM

Best at what? ;) ;) ;)

ronski · 01-12-2004, 05:26 PM

SO. THUN
OR
COOOOOOOHZAAAD
I'VE BUTCHED UP KEEN WITH THEM IN THE BACKGROUND

Pop E. Chulo · 01-13-2004, 11:16 AM

Both groups have awesome songs, but I would give a slight edge to Cozad for compositions. Singing ability? Southern Thunder. It's not even close.

I don't know if either are "the best." Southern Thunder v. Yellowhammer is the better debate.

Dirty South · 01-13-2004, 12:00 PM

What up cuz! r u out in OH-HO?

WhoMe · 01-13-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pop E. Chulo
Both groups have awesome songs, but I would give a slight edge to Cozad for compositions. Singing ability? Southern Thunder. It's not even close.

I don't know if either are "the best." Southern Thunder v. Yellowhammer is the better debate.

Well said PopE. I totally agree with your views.

Dancin' Fool · 01-13-2004, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pop E. Chulo
Both groups have awesome songs, but I would give a slight edge to Cozad for compositions. Singing ability? Southern Thunder. It's not even close.

I don't know if either are "the best." Southern Thunder v. Yellowhammer is the better debate.

Southern Thunder has recorded more old Pawnee songs, composed by men long gone, than new compositions. They definately have more singing ability than the Cozads. Both Frank and Herb Adson can flat jam. Frank more in the pow-wow arena and Herb on their rez for tribal functions. They are both well respected men. Southern Thunder v. Yellowhammer, man ol' man!!!

Dirty South · 01-16-2004, 12:04 PM

Man you got to be kidding me! ST doesn't even compare to Yellow hammer!

SBZ4life · 01-16-2004, 01:20 PM

they are both good, especially in their prime~~

Cozads, great fancy dance and gourd dance singers
Southern Thunder~Str8 dance is their specialty...

They are both well educated into thier music(gourd dance pawnee songs & such), not putting down their own composed songs, I like the old ones myself.

Pop E. Chulo · 01-16-2004, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Dirty South
Man you got to be kidding me! ST doesn't even compare to Yellow hammer!

I don't know about that. Yellowhammer is the current gold standard in powwow music. There is no doubt about that. And if I HAD to pick one over the other, I would probably pick Yellowhammer. You'll will be hard-pressed to find anybody's voice that is more suited for powwow music than Jimmy Kemble. He is THE BEST out there right now (and has been for a while). That being said, I would still put that Southern Thunder "Live" album that came out a couple of years ago up against any album that Yellowhammer (or anybody else) has put out in the last 20 years. It's that good. The rest of their stuff is not too shabby either and they sound great live. With all due respect to all the other top groups out there, these two are a step above the rest.

sltate · 01-17-2004, 03:19 PM

Tough question.
both drums, when they are all present and accounted for, are awesome. Different styles, different spirit, but both are champion drums.
Sound like I am riding the fence? Both drums are my uncles and brothers. ha ha
They each have their specialties, so you can't really compare them in that respect.
But yellowhammer is the ultimate, against anyone. The last time they were at Schemiztun, I was standing on a bench with a couple of the Cozad singers when Yellowhammer sang their first intertribal on Thursday night. You could not even get close to them, so we were standing on a bench looking down at the drum while they were singing. As soon as the last drum beat ended, we looked at each other and this particular singer said"Damn, we singing for second place".
The thing about Southern Thunder and Yellow Hammer is they prefer to stay home, sing at their home celebrations, they are not really into the travel scene. They pick and choose their pow wows to travel to and they take a full crew therefore giving a committee their host drum money's worth. If they choose to travel to your pow wow, you are in for the ultimate singing treatment.

lclbcook · 01-20-2004, 05:19 AM

Hum....tough answer, but id have to say southern thunder. But Cozads are still a drum u have to love to listen to, they sound good when crewed up. Yellow Hammer is still a level above with these groups i have mentioned, but they are some keen groups out there makin a name fo themselves and i hope money and egos dont destroy them. But the to 3 in my order are Yella Hamma, Southern Thunder and cozad.

*sHaRoN* · 01-28-2004, 06:47 PM

View Poll Results: WHOS THE BEST SOUTHERN THUNDER OR COZAD?
SOUTHERN THUNDER	52	41.94%
COZAD	72	58.06%
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01-10-2004, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
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01-12-2004, 04:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dirty South Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: somwhere south! Posts: 15	The best? Do you mean the better of the the two? They are both good, but I wouldn't go as far as the best. I like the both of them, but I do tend to favor Cozads! __________________ Live life one day at a time. Things happen for a reason.

01-12-2004, 05:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
ronski Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ojo encino Posts: 68	LIVE AND IN DEMAND SO. THUN OR COOOOOOOHZAAAD I'VE BUTCHED UP KEEN WITH THEM IN THE BACKGROUND __________________ ski

01-13-2004, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dirty South Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: somwhere south! Posts: 15	ronski! What up cuz! r u out in OH-HO? __________________ Live life one day at a time. Things happen for a reason.

01-11-2004, 12:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,858	They are both equal in the eyes of the Creator.

01-12-2004, 04:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
billyjoejimbob Fat Singer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: white guy land Posts: 1,517	Best at what? ;) ;) ;)

01-13-2004, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pop E. Chulo Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Cut Posts: 8	Both groups have awesome songs, but I would give a slight edge to Cozad for compositions. Singing ability? Southern Thunder. It's not even close. I don't know if either are "the best." Southern Thunder v. Yellowhammer is the better debate.

01-16-2004, 12:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dirty South Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: somwhere south! Posts: 15	Yellow Hammer vs. Southern Thunder? Man you got to be kidding me! ST doesn't even compare to Yellow hammer! __________________ Live life one day at a time. Things happen for a reason.

01-16-2004, 01:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
SBZ4life ~Southernz Elite~ Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Room 112 Posts: 799	they are both good, especially in their prime~~ Cozads, great fancy dance and gourd dance singers Southern Thunder~Str8 dance is their specialty... They are both well educated into thier music(gourd dance pawnee songs & such), not putting down their own composed songs, I like the old ones myself. __________________ :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles: " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

01-17-2004, 03:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
sltate Senior Dancer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: apache,ok Posts: 548	Tough question. both drums, when they are all present and accounted for, are awesome. Different styles, different spirit, but both are champion drums. Sound like I am riding the fence? Both drums are my uncles and brothers. ha ha They each have their specialties, so you can't really compare them in that respect. But yellowhammer is the ultimate, against anyone. The last time they were at Schemiztun, I was standing on a bench with a couple of the Cozad singers when Yellowhammer sang their first intertribal on Thursday night. You could not even get close to them, so we were standing on a bench looking down at the drum while they were singing. As soon as the last drum beat ended, we looked at each other and this particular singer said"Damn, we singing for second place". The thing about Southern Thunder and Yellow Hammer is they prefer to stay home, sing at their home celebrations, they are not really into the travel scene. They pick and choose their pow wows to travel to and they take a full crew therefore giving a committee their host drum money's worth. If they choose to travel to your pow wow, you are in for the ultimate singing treatment.

01-20-2004, 05:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
lclbcook Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ponca city Posts: 40	Hum....tough answer, but id have to say southern thunder. But Cozads are still a drum u have to love to listen to, they sound good when crewed up. Yellow Hammer is still a level above with these groups i have mentioned, but they are some keen groups out there makin a name fo themselves and i hope money and egos dont destroy them. But the to 3 in my order are Yella Hamma, Southern Thunder and cozad.

01-28-2004, 06:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
sHaRoN bleh Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: uh......over here Posts: 403	COZAD :o __________________ its a shame that stupidity isnt painful