Best singer? - Page 2

One_Chey_Ojib · 09-16-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by rwgirl
......Jimmy Kemble, Frank Adson, Leonard Cozad, Sr., Joe Fish Dupoint, etc. Those are the real singers...born and bred.

These guys have my vote!!!:rating10: :rating10: :Thumbs

ern_dawg2003 · 09-16-2003, 04:56 PM

the best clear and highest voice : now doubt James Kemble or Jade Roubedoux
the strongest voice : Tim Grant or Kelly Grant ( omaha WhiteTail)
voice pleasing to listen too: Frank Adson
who voice most wanna sing with: Tim Grant and Kelly Grant
the most knowledgeable on songs: Henry Collins
best all around southern singers: James Kemble and Tim Grant

These are my best singers in my opinion

hot nsn mama · 09-16-2003, 06:17 PM

Lloyd Gwin!!

Jimmy Kemble

Cozad's (don't know their names)

hot nsn mama · 09-16-2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by superndngyrl
BUH!!! u know you started this thread to hear your name mentioned... ;)

....:secrets: is this the doot you told me about earlier this summer????:Chatter :Chatter

49singer · 09-18-2003, 01:09 AM

Why is it over the line for him Santos to be making songs? How much ndn do you have to be to make new songs? Is it ok for someone like me, 1/4 ndn to be making new songs? I was always told what isn't in my blood, runs through my heart. Spent lots of years singing and dancing in Ok. So, is it ok for me to make new songs, or is that reserved for full bloods?

hot nsn mama · 09-18-2003, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49singer
Why is it over the line for him Santos to be making songs? How much ndn do you have to be to make new songs? Is it ok for someone like me, 1/4 ndn to be making new songs? I was always told what isn't in my blood, runs through my heart. Spent lots of years singing and dancing in Ok. So, is it ok for me to make new songs, or is that reserved for full bloods?

The question IZZZZ, the BEST SINGER A-HEY!!!

.....make another thread on that one.......:(

hot nsn mama · 09-18-2003, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bqueton
Well, OK. If no one else is going to be egotistical, I guess I will.
the best singer I know of, has to be:

ME

...I'm tellin LG!!!:D

So_CGirl · 09-18-2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bqueton
Well, OK. If no one else is going to be egotistical, I guess I will.
the best singer I know of, has to be:

ME

Oh BUH! Not even

HighsNLows · 09-18-2003, 12:52 PM

49singer, just read the post without getting all emotional (just kidding calm down). the problem is the guy making songs in a language that isnt his own. thats what i see in the post.

otoe_gurl · 09-18-2003, 03:03 PM

all Otoe and Ponca singers...

goose · 09-19-2003, 12:12 AM

exacty. If you can make a song in your own language, then that is yours to make. I agree with rw on that. I like Al and all. He is pretty cool, but the song making issue is kind of touchy. I have a song, a pawnee song, but I am pawnee and it was made by a pawnee. I wouldn't go to comanche for a ponca song, I would go to a ponca. So I guess that is going to be a big issue for another thread.
The best southern singers are okies, hands down.

49singer · 09-19-2003, 01:10 AM

ok, sorry I got off the subject. Best southern singers have to be Cozad, Rosehill, and Zotighs. My kids seem to think a lot of Greyhorse.

sugar creek 49 queen · 09-21-2003, 02:34 AM

I agree with that one person who said stick to the subject at hand.

The question was about who I as a person thought was a good singer.(plus alot of other questions)

Everyone has a opinion and mine still say all southern singers sound good.

I had the great opportunity to listen to about all of them on c.d's,tapes or at some pow-wow.

Alex Santos caught my attention several times just but the way he delivers a song.(and as right now,I still think he sings very well)

Now,I think someone who gets second hand information isn't worth listening to. If you can't get the information correct,then I think all you do is blow smoke out of your "z"

:Chatter

I always find it amusing how these people on here can say this and that. I wonder though,to be so critical about someone you never met and talk about as if you know them. WHO is the better person?

I know all the people that are mentioned as good singers wouldn't be caught dead hanging around worrying about what anyone thinks. Call it maturity. You don't see Mr. COZAD posting or Joe Fish or even Mr. Kemble. And these are all people you all admire in some way or another.

I feel sorry for this bqueton dude.:( saying he heard this and that.(sound like a gossipy woman):p All I can say is,facts and documention. Get that before you talk bad about someone cuz one day someone is going to think badly of you or say they don't even know you as a singer. (actually I'm racking my brain thinking of who bqueton is):Chatter Guess I'll ask Warren or M.Tahbone she's a queton.:)

yikes! I just thought about something. I hope bqueton isn't a stalker! He seems to know a awful lot about what and when and where Alex Santos is.

hot nsn mama · 09-22-2003, 10:57 AM

[quote]Originally posted by sugar creek 49 queen
[b]I agree with that one person who said stick to the subject at hand.

The question was about who I as a person thought was a good singer.(plus alot of other questions)[quote]

....BUH!! Sounds your the same as the people your raggin about....

BEST SINGER!!!....is the name of this thread....:p

sugar creek 49 queen · 09-22-2003, 03:39 PM

Phooey,I forgot to say all KIOWA'S since someone said otoe's and ponca's:D :Wave

sooners_02 · 09-23-2003, 12:13 AM

i would have to say that all the singers from oklahoma sound the best. but to individuals i like to hear are

larry cozad
joe fish
jimmy kemble
lloyd gwin
jr whitecloud

Ponca Papa · 09-23-2003, 05:52 PM

I can't believe anyone would say anything about another person's nationality without even knowing any facts. You either have to be very young or very ignorant. Cozad, Bad Medicine, Yellowhammer, White Tail, and so many others have never talked out of hatred about this guy, Al. Some members of some groups may not like him, that's human. We can't possibly like everyone! But respected singers I know of, do not come on here and say such stupid things. O.K. maybe making songs for people and such is out of line for some, but bashing his race is down right hatefull. Maybe you should approach this guy and tell him how you feel. As for "blood is thicker than water", "you have to be native". We as indians in the educational field have spent many years trying to educate people and still there are people who seem to think their are natives only in the 50 states. READ! learn, before you speak. Should he sing intertribal songs of plains tribes? I don't know, who am I to say. It is by the way, intertribal. So many tribes in the N.E., S.W. and other parts do it. Anyway, this young man has shown respect to these ways. He does'nt deny who he is. on that note, I worked on a documentary with him and others and I'll have you know that he in fact is enrolled with the Taino Arawak Nation of the Antilles and is part Aztec. He even speaks his native language of Arawak. I strongly doubt any of these young people on here do. You can't even speak Kiowa or Sac-n-Fox or any other indian language FLUENTLY yet you bash someone who does. By the way, if you doubt any of this info, search the net for info on this guy. He was on the dance theater, and served on many powwow committees across the U.S. You do realize that you need credentials to do those things. Anyway, stop hatin. Look for my film coming out soon entitled; Lost Peoples of the Americas.(PBS)

Ponca Papa · 09-23-2003, 06:00 PM

I forgot, my favorites are Larry Cozad and Jimmy Kemble. I like Kelly Kable and Anthony Monnassy too. P.S. That Arawak tribe is On the federal recognition list. Check out there website. They are going through the state of Florida. They have federal recognition through the South American F.U.N.A.I. (the B.I.A. of south america)

Kwapa mom · 09-25-2003, 10:43 AM

JIMMY KEMBLE

hands down

09-16-2003, 04:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
ern_dawg2003 Southern Straight Dancer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: WeatherFord, Oklahoma >But, still Nebraska CornHusker @ Heart. Posts: 313	my votes the best clear and highest voice : now doubt James Kemble or Jade Roubedoux the strongest voice : Tim Grant or Kelly Grant ( omaha WhiteTail) voice pleasing to listen too: Frank Adson who voice most wanna sing with: Tim Grant and Kelly Grant the most knowledgeable on songs: Henry Collins best all around southern singers: James Kemble and Tim Grant These are my best singers in my opinion

09-18-2003, 03:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
otoe_gurl Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: OKLA/N. MEX. Posts: 23	umm...my opinion all Otoe and Ponca singers... __________________ ~~OTOE GURL~~

09-23-2003, 05:52 PM	#37 (permalink)
Ponca Papa Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 8	Best singer! I can't believe anyone would say anything about another person's nationality without even knowing any facts. You either have to be very young or very ignorant. Cozad, Bad Medicine, Yellowhammer, White Tail, and so many others have never talked out of hatred about this guy, Al. Some members of some groups may not like him, that's human. We can't possibly like everyone! But respected singers I know of, do not come on here and say such stupid things. O.K. maybe making songs for people and such is out of line for some, but bashing his race is down right hatefull. Maybe you should approach this guy and tell him how you feel. As for "blood is thicker than water", "you have to be native". We as indians in the educational field have spent many years trying to educate people and still there are people who seem to think their are natives only in the 50 states. READ! learn, before you speak. Should he sing intertribal songs of plains tribes? I don't know, who am I to say. It is by the way, intertribal. So many tribes in the N.E., S.W. and other parts do it. Anyway, this young man has shown respect to these ways. He does'nt deny who he is. on that note, I worked on a documentary with him and others and I'll have you know that he in fact is enrolled with the Taino Arawak Nation of the Antilles and is part Aztec. He even speaks his native language of Arawak. I strongly doubt any of these young people on here do. You can't even speak Kiowa or Sac-n-Fox or any other indian language FLUENTLY yet you bash someone who does. By the way, if you doubt any of this info, search the net for info on this guy. He was on the dance theater, and served on many powwow committees across the U.S. You do realize that you need credentials to do those things. Anyway, stop hatin. Look for my film coming out soon entitled; Lost Peoples of the Americas.(PBS)

09-25-2003, 10:43 AM	#39 (permalink)
Kwapa mom Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pow-wow central Posts: 10	Best Singer JIMMY KEMBLE hands down

09-16-2003, 06:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
hot nsn mama ....SINNA....... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A hop, skip & a jump away from sanity! Posts: 1,037	Lloyd Gwin!! Jimmy Kemble Cozad's (don't know their names)

09-18-2003, 01:09 AM	#25 (permalink)
49singer Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere, USA Posts: 58	Why is it over the line for him Santos to be making songs? How much ndn do you have to be to make new songs? Is it ok for someone like me, 1/4 ndn to be making new songs? I was always told what isn't in my blood, runs through my heart. Spent lots of years singing and dancing in Ok. So, is it ok for me to make new songs, or is that reserved for full bloods?

09-18-2003, 12:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
HighsNLows Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: this way, that way Posts: 56	49singer, just read the post without getting all emotional (just kidding calm down). the problem is the guy making songs in a language that isnt his own. thats what i see in the post.

09-19-2003, 12:12 AM	#31 (permalink)
goose Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: stroud ok Posts: 64	exacty. If you can make a song in your own language, then that is yours to make. I agree with rw on that. I like Al and all. He is pretty cool, but the song making issue is kind of touchy. I have a song, a pawnee song, but I am pawnee and it was made by a pawnee. I wouldn't go to comanche for a ponca song, I would go to a ponca. So I guess that is going to be a big issue for another thread. The best southern singers are okies, hands down.

09-19-2003, 01:10 AM	#32 (permalink)
49singer Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere, USA Posts: 58	ok, sorry I got off the subject. Best southern singers have to be Cozad, Rosehill, and Zotighs. My kids seem to think a lot of Greyhorse.

09-21-2003, 02:34 AM	#33 (permalink)
sugar creek 49 queen Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	I agree with that one person who said stick to the subject at hand. The question was about who I as a person thought was a good singer.(plus alot of other questions) Everyone has a opinion and mine still say all southern singers sound good. I had the great opportunity to listen to about all of them on c.d's,tapes or at some pow-wow. Alex Santos caught my attention several times just but the way he delivers a song.(and as right now,I still think he sings very well) Now,I think someone who gets second hand information isn't worth listening to. If you can't get the information correct,then I think all you do is blow smoke out of your "z" :Chatter I always find it amusing how these people on here can say this and that. I wonder though,to be so critical about someone you never met and talk about as if you know them. WHO is the better person? I know all the people that are mentioned as good singers wouldn't be caught dead hanging around worrying about what anyone thinks. Call it maturity. You don't see Mr. COZAD posting or Joe Fish or even Mr. Kemble. And these are all people you all admire in some way or another. I feel sorry for this bqueton dude.:( saying he heard this and that.(sound like a gossipy woman):p All I can say is,facts and documention. Get that before you talk bad about someone cuz one day someone is going to think badly of you or say they don't even know you as a singer. (actually I'm racking my brain thinking of who bqueton is):Chatter Guess I'll ask Warren or M.Tahbone she's a queton.:) yikes! I just thought about something. I hope bqueton isn't a stalker! He seems to know a awful lot about what and when and where Alex Santos is.

09-22-2003, 10:57 AM	#34 (permalink)
hot nsn mama ....SINNA....... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A hop, skip & a jump away from sanity! Posts: 1,037	[quote]Originally posted by sugar creek 49 queen [b]I agree with that one person who said stick to the subject at hand. The question was about who I as a person thought was a good singer.(plus alot of other questions)[quote] ....BUH!! Sounds your the same as the people your raggin about.... BEST SINGER!!!....is the name of this thread....:p

09-22-2003, 03:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
sugar creek 49 queen Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	Phooey,I forgot to say all KIOWA'S since someone said otoe's and ponca's:D :Wave

09-23-2003, 12:13 AM	#36 (permalink)
sooners_02 Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 15	i would have to say that all the singers from oklahoma sound the best. but to individuals i like to hear are larry cozad joe fish jimmy kemble lloyd gwin jr whitecloud

09-23-2003, 06:00 PM	#38 (permalink)
Ponca Papa Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 8	I forgot, my favorites are Larry Cozad and Jimmy Kemble. I like Kelly Kable and Anthony Monnassy too. P.S. That Arawak tribe is On the federal recognition list. Check out there website. They are going through the state of Florida. They have federal recognition through the South American F.U.N.A.I. (the B.I.A. of south america)