Originally Posted by anishtradish

I believe culture doesn't really die out, it just adapts and changes. Even if we loose our languages and religions and ceremonies and stuff, we still have a culture of some sort, just not as 'traditional' as it was at one time.


I mean back to jingle for example, jingle dresses are supposed to only be one color, of the 4 original colors, and the women could not wear leggings, or use any type of fan, in the Ojibwe tradition and a lot of the great lakes area tribes, a woman couldn't even have an eagle fan period, because a woman was considered too powerful to use eagle feathers.

But look at any powwow today, and look at the jingle dresses. There all different colors, fancy, have all sorts of designs and patterns, beaded leggings, and most of them carry fans. Now would you say that those people lost parts of their culture, because they don't stick to those old original teachings?

you cant stop culture from changing. I mean our ways today are different from the ways lets say 50 years ago, and the ways from 50 years ago were different from the ways 150 years ago. Just like language changes, culture does as well. Especially now that we have giant powwows that people come from different tribes and over the years things just mix and change. I mean like we have people out west dancing jingle, we have people out east chicken dancing.... things just mix, and even the mainstream American culture mixes in with our powwows like how people sometimes do mix modern dance moves into their powwow style. I mean look at the bright florescent colors people use and the fancy cut glass beads. Now if someone wanted to be 100% 'traditional' they wouldn't use things like glass beads, and metal bells and velvet and satin and things that we didn't have before white people came here, because it's not "traditional' lol.


so my question to everyone else is ... how long does it take for something new that gets introduced into a culture, to end up becoming what someone would consider 'traditional'?

just something to think about.

Originally Posted by Kaina1128

back in the day, woodlands tradish dancers did not wear bustles

Originally Posted by nativeproud

now im gonna have to strongly disagree with you. what these girls are doing is wrong, now i also dont know much about jingle or fancy shaw dancing, but i do know they are very sacred things. if they wanna go out and dance like that, thats fine, just dont do it in dance cloths, they are sacred things and should be used for the sacred dances they are intended for. if they want to dance like that, they should do it in their street clothes, i dont think anyone would have any problem with that.