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Old 08-29-2005, 09:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Arrow schemitzun 2005

for those who attended this year's schemitzun, what all did you think?? i went up on thursday expecting some dancing, nothing. something of a bummer.

it had a totally differant this year than in past years.

the other "entertainment" happened on saturday night about 8 pm or so. i am not sure of the all of the details but a big fight broke out with as many as 200 people being involve and numerous police from the surrounding towns coming to break things up, according to the local paper. i had counted about 45 police cars on my way back to my hotel, not realzing the full extent of the situation.

other that that, it was a good weekend.
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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200 people?! I don't think it was that big was it? I was there and heard the police cars and everything, but i didn't think it was that big of a fight.

I had a good time, loved seeing the dancing, especially the Smoke Dance and the Switch dance hahaha. I wish there were showers but, who knows maybe next year they will have.
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For Pete's sake, who has the results, post them already!!
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i saw only the beginning stages of that fight, what i saw was a fair number of people, that was before all the police came.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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sounds like schemitzun is getting "rank" - even heard a girl got sexually assaulted during a room party at two trees - not that anywhere else is any safer...everybody's gotta be more careful out there...
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Geez, someone post the full results, pleez!! Glad I didn't go this year. Sounds like this powwow is doing downhill fo sho. Heard there weren't even that many dancers to fill some of the categories. Maybe the original committee should take it back over.
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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here are two reports i got from an area newspaper.

Police Respond To Report Of Fight Between Tribes

Published on 8/28/2005

North Stonington — A fight, reportedly between two tribes, broke out on the Wintechog Hill Road grounds of the Schemitzun festival at around 8 p.m. Saturday, police said.

There only were minor injuries. The weekend-long event, known as the Feast of Green Corn and Dance, is sponsored by the Mashantucket Pequots.

State police Sgt. Michael Collins of Troop E in Montville called the incident a "brawl," and another officer said the incident involved about 200 or so young men and women, whom he estimated to be 17 to 25 years old.

Collins said some of those injured were taken to the Mashantucket Police Department for questioning.

"They're claiming they don't know who's assaulting them," Collins said.

The incident included a fight, but there were no immediate arrests. The fight involved two to four people, according to state police Sgt. Martin Lane.

State police and officers from the Norwich, Stonington, Groton town, Montville and East Lyme police departments, some K-9 units, responded to the incident.

"We're investigating it as a breach of peace and a minor assault," said Lane.

Lane said the fight may have appeared larger than it was "because of the crowd of people here, just for the event. Because people get emotional."

Lane said that state police were handling the investigation and they anticipate making some arrests.

Schemitzun Fight Stumps Investigators

Police Say Witnesses Are Not Cooperating

By ETHAN ROUEN

Day Staff Writer, Police/Fire Reporter

Published on 8/30/2005

North Stonington –– State police have been stymied in their investigation into a brawl that broke out between two Indian tribes Saturday night at the Schemitzun festival.

"It's difficult when you're not getting the cooperation you deserve," said Sgt. Michael Collins of Troop E in Montville. "The cooperation we're getting is minimal at best."

Most witnesses have not cooperated with the investigation, police said, and officers are having difficulty finding the fights' instigators, he said. There have not been any arrests.

According to Collins, several hundred people were involved in numerous fights on the festival grounds on Wintechog Hill Road Saturday. The fights began at about 8 p.m. and were quickly broken up by six state troopers. No one was injured.

Dozens of officers, including K-9 Units, were brought in from state police barracks and area police departments to ensure the violence would not flare up.

"With such a police presence, there were no more problems for the rest of the night," Collins said.

He said there was a heavy police presence the following day, and no fights occurred.

The people involved in the fights were rival members of the Narragansett Tribe of Rhode Island and the Shinnecock Tribe of New York, Collins said. The rivalry began about a year ago when a fight broke out between the tribes in New York.

Spokesmen for both tribes stressed that the fights were between members of the tribes who did not represent the beliefs of the tribes.

Beverly Jensen, a spokeswoman for the Shinnecock, said the fights may have started because of a case of mistaken identity. She said two women who were believed to be, but were not, Shinnecock members were attacked.

"It's silly and it needs to stop," she said of the fighting. "We maintain close ties with the Narragansett Nation. We don't consider ourselves to have any rivalry with the Narragansett Nation."


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First year I went and thought should of had drumming and dancing on thursday myself. Dont know if show up next year if their is drumming contest. As far as the dancing it was jammin. Had good time. These are what I can remember off hand.

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Mens Contemporary Justice Cree, Jason Stacona
Junior Jingle Kingbird, Henrieta Scaplock, Jennifer YoungBear, Candice Mccabe
Northern Fancy Carol Melting Talon, Rose Green, Ursala Kanahoe.
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SR. ADULT MEN, SOUTHERN FANCY
1. Tom Snow Ball, Sr., Ho-Chunk/Omaha
2. Allenroy Pay-Kwin, Jicarilla Apache
3. Dale Roberts, Choctaw
4. Walkoe Stonefish, Delaware/Pottawatomi

SR. ADULT MEN, NORTHERN FANCY
1. Jerry Cleveland, Jr., Ho-Chunk
2. Daniel Trampee, Cherokee
3. Damon Funmaker, Ho-Chunk
4. Stanson Yazzi, Navajo

SR. ADULT MEN, GRASS
1. Darrell Goodwill, Dakota
2. Delbert Wapass, Plains Creek
3. Marty Pinnecoose, Ute
4. Marshall T. Goulet, Cree
5. Williard Black Cat, Oglala Sioux

SR. ADULT MEN, SOUTHERN STRAIGHT
1. Terry Tsotigh, Kiowa
2. Sean Spicer, Seneca/Otoe Missouria
3. Ray Silva, Pueblo
4. Little Big Mountain, Comanche
5. Howard Todome, Jr., Comanche

SR. ADULT MEN, CONTEMPORARY NORTHERN TRADITIONAL
1. Conrad Medicine Rope, Nakota
2. Wayne Cleland, Ojibwe (Swan Creek)
3. Zack Cailing, Squamish
4. Preston Tone Pah Hote, Jr. Kiowa

SR. ADULT MEN, EASTERN WAR
1. Anthony Dean Stanton, Narragansett
2. Ernie Stevens, Jr., Oneida
3. Michael Red Hawk Bliss, Narragansett
4. Cassius Spears, Sr., Narragansett
5. John Great Wolf Pompey, Narragansett
Consolation – Dennis Champlin, Narragansett
Consolation – Albert E. Sargent, Montauckett
Consolation – Greg Big Crane, Ojbway/Mohawk
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1. Karen Pheasant, Ojibway
2. Brenda Silva, Haliwa-Saponi
3. Glenda Begay, Santa Domingo Pueblo
4. Katrina Big Mountain, Cree
5. Sylvia Montana, Apache/Kickapoo/Mexican
Consolation – Mitchalene BigMan, Crow
Consolation – Robin Patrick, Ojibwe

SR. ADULT WOMEN, NORTHERN TRADITIONAL
1. Jodi Gillette, Lakota Tribe (Sioux)
2. Salina NoEar Todome, Ponca& Otoe Tribe
3. Maryann Hi-Eagle, Dakota
4. Dorothy Myo, Saultreaux (Anishnaabe) Tribe
5. Marcy Fiddler, Cheyenne River Sioux
Consolation – Kim Baker, Red Lake Ojibwe
Consolation – Bernadette Shawanda, Ojibway Odawa
Consolation – Kellie Mae Chaboyea Downwind, Red Lake Anishnaabe

SR. ADULT WOMEN, SOUTHERN TRADITIONAL
1. Delaine Alley Snowball, Otoe-Shawnee Tribe
2. Keri-Jhane Myers, Comanche Tribe
3. Dana Whiteshirt, Pawnee Otoe Arapaho
4. Amber Komahcheet, Seminole
5. Leah McGurk, Dine/Apache
Consolation – Monica Raphael, Anishinabe-Sioux
Consolation – Bunty Anqure, Kiona/Onondaga
Consolation – Joy Tone Pah Hote, Kiowa/Maya Tribe

SR. ADULT WOMEN, SMOKE
1. Lisa Parker, Tonawanda Seneca
2. Gloria Sky, Iroquois C