Standing Arrow Celebration, Elmo MT....Results - Page 2

Dat1NdnGuy · 08-03-2005, 06:38 AM

Sounds to me like the whole set up was a big ol mess. On da message boards AND by word o' mouth. But it sounds like there was some badazz jams there!

blckftfncydncr · 08-05-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAD SKILLZ

Just as good in some areas, ------maybe.......way better is a laughable overstatement. If they were so good they would have won. They're up and coming, some day they'll make a BIG name for themselves. The winners have paid their dues and deserved to win. Speed is not the only criteria on which the dancers are judged nor is it a measure of who expends the most energy. The winners had more style and more moves----originality, that particular weekend. Maybe next time it will be different. I watched the video footage and the winners appeared to be accurate, at least in the mens fancy category, some of the others were kinda messed up.

So i guess what you are tryin to say is that they are not really that good. well that is you who is sayin that. i just still think that they should of won i know it is not about the speed and energy. im not stupid. all im sayin watchin all those other guys who were dancin i am suprised that they didnt just pick all the winners from tha flathead rez like they did last year i am suprised they actually picked people off tha rez.

NativeBabyDoll · 08-07-2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blckftfncydncr

So i guess what you are tryin to say is that they are not really that good. well that is you who is sayin that. i just still think that they should of won i know it is not about the speed and energy. im not stupid. all im sayin watchin all those other guys who were dancin i am suprised that they didnt just pick all the winners from tha flathead rez like they did last year i am suprised they actually picked people off tha rez.

Well whats wrong with picking winners from the flathead rez?? hmmm ---- after all the powwow takes place on the flathead rez and it is OUR powwow.

Pvt Butter · 08-09-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NativeBabyDoll

Well whats wrong with picking winners from the flathead rez?? hmmm ---- after all the powwow takes place on the flathead rez and it is OUR powwow.

harsh but true

DANTS · 08-09-2005, 11:57 AM

Elmo has an awesome arbor......except for that middle part(gets in the way), oustanding singing contest, beautiful backdrop and nice people. I'm planning on go'n back and would encourage those who haven't been.....to attend next year. About the Men's Fancy results......I think Blackfeet Dancer has a point....these up coming fancy dancers JJ, Clint and Stan Jr. looked reall good, I was surprsied none of them got in. I also agree with MAD SKILLZ....on that particular weekend the older guys put on a good show and the results seemed fairly accurate......in the that category.

blckftfncydncr · 08-09-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NativeBabyDoll

Well whats wrong with picking winners from the flathead rez?? hmmm ---- after all the powwow takes place on the flathead rez and it is OUR powwow.

I think it is pretty pissy that they are just pickin tha winners from the flathead rez it shouldnt matter were tha powwow takes place.

NativeBabyDoll · 08-09-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blckftfncydncr

I think it is pretty pissy that they are just pickin tha winners from the flathead rez it shouldnt matter were tha powwow takes place.

maybe next time you should be a ****ing judge then!! if you dont like how the powwows in this reservation is ran then don't go or don't complain. It takes a lot of hard work and shizz to put on a powwow and obviously the ones that ***** and moan are the ones who know nothing about running one and have never judged or nothin... or simply ***** coz they have nothing better to do in their lives than to put others down.

Wakalapi · 08-19-2005, 05:49 PM

Friend of mine went there and ended up packing up and leaving the same night. His two boys were practicing their dance outside the circle and I guess making A LITTLE dust. So some dude from the committee comes up and yells at them, then brings over his leafblower and uses it to kick up dust and spray it all over them and their outfits. He also blew his machine straight into their faces and made them cry - they are actually pretty tough kids that I've never seen cry from anything. My friend felt like plastering him on the ground and I know I would have. Fortunately, others from the committee later apologized for the man's behavior and commented that he was a pain in the butt to work with, anyway. My friend still left though, he thought it was the best thing for his family.

It IS a lot of work to put on a powwow and to see SO MANY people complaining about it later does feel like petty thanklessness and I understand why one might want to trivialize all their comments and use words that the system has to go " ***** " over a lot, too. But what it sounds like from what I read here, is confusion over points tabulation caused the wrong dancer to be announced as winner and you really have to understand how that makes everyone look at your powwow. Even the smallest mistakes can ruin in some people's eyes what might really be a big, beautiful production. People don't pay attention to the Lamborghini nameplate when there is a nice bird splat across the windshield to attract their attention. This is what the contest powwow movement is all about, all too often. We should be quite used to seeing powwow committee members' kids and brothers and sisters winning all the money, regardless of who danced best. All over the place. This whole system is sometimes just another extension of the NDN welfare state. When underhanded "mistakes" are made, that's what allows the anti-sovereignty movement to say "Aha!" and move to assimilate us into mainstream America and abolish the reservations.

Better luck NEXT YEAR.

**SingingDeer** · 08-26-2005, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wakalapi

Friend of mine went there and ended up packing up and leaving the same night. His two boys were practicing their dance outside the circle and I guess making A LITTLE dust. So some dude from the committee comes up and yells at them, then brings over his leafblower and uses it to kick up dust and spray it all over them and their outfits. He also blew his machine straight into their faces and made them cry - they are actually pretty tough kids that I've never seen cry from anything. My friend felt like plastering him on the ground and I know I would have. Fortunately, others from the committee later apologized for the man's behavior and commented that he was a pain in the butt to work with, anyway. My friend still left though, he thought it was the best thing for his family.
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That's a rude thing to do to those boys.... and a serious safety issue. I don't blame your friend for leaving early. Dust grains can cause serious damage to the cornea.

NativeBabyDoll · 08-28-2005, 09:53 PM

ALL THIS BICKERING AND *****ING ABOUT THIS POWWOW LONGGGG AFTER ITS OVER AND DONE WITH IS MAKING ME NOT WANT TO COME HERE TO POWWOWS.COM ANYMORE. i mean for fudge sakes people its done and overwith GET over it already!!!

blckftfncydncr · 09-22-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NativeBabyDoll

maybe next time you should be a ****ing judge then!! if you dont like how the powwows in this reservation is ran then don't go or don't complain. It takes a lot of hard work and shizz to put on a powwow and obviously the ones that ***** and moan are the ones who know nothing about running one and have never judged or nothin... or simply ***** coz they have nothing better to do in their lives than to put others down.

I F***ing was a judge. And I am from tha flathead rez i came from browning ok but i know how it is to put a powwow on i did it before and i know it is hard but damn i am serious that they need to pick more winners that are not from tha flathead rez.

DANTS · 09-28-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blckftfncydncr

So i guess what you are tryin to say is that they are not really that good. well that is you who is sayin that. i just still think that they should of won i know it is not about the speed and energy. im not stupid. all im sayin watchin all those other guys who were dancin i am suprised that they didnt just pick all the winners from tha flathead rez like they did last year i am suprised they actually picked people off tha rez.

Men's Fancy
1st Place George Abeyta - Fort Washakie WY
2nd Place Lydall Yazzie - Mesa, AZ
3rd Place Loiue Plant - Arlee, MT
4th Place Alden Spoonhunter, Browning, MT

Good balance on where the dancers were from......in this category at least.

Results look good to me....in this category!

**~*~Xammy~*~** · 09-28-2005, 07:59 PM

Lydall is from Flagstaff, Az. ;)

su~CREE~tness · 09-30-2005, 05:44 PM

I think them blks are like all home twon commitees they faver the people from home.

08-03-2005, 06:38 AM	#21 (permalink)
Dat1NdnGuy Aint Dat Sumptin? Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,029	Whoa... Sounds to me like the whole set up was a big ol mess. On da message boards AND by word o' mouth. But it sounds like there was some badazz jams there! __________________ "Out greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, our greatest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us." "Never Compromise yourself, Your all you've got" "An eye for an eye will only lead to a blind world." Last edited by Dat1NdnGuy; 08-03-2005 at 06:39 AM. Reason: just because...

08-19-2005, 05:49 PM	#28 (permalink)
Wakalapi www.wakalapi.com Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: East of the Mountains Posts: 1,282	The TICKLE ME ELMO Powwow Friend of mine went there and ended up packing up and leaving the same night. His two boys were practicing their dance outside the circle and I guess making A LITTLE dust. So some dude from the committee comes up and yells at them, then brings over his leafblower and uses it to kick up dust and spray it all over them and their outfits. He also blew his machine straight into their faces and made them cry - they are actually pretty tough kids that I've never seen cry from anything. My friend felt like plastering him on the ground and I know I would have. Fortunately, others from the committee later apologized for the man's behavior and commented that he was a pain in the butt to work with, anyway. My friend still left though, he thought it was the best thing for his family. It IS a lot of work to put on a powwow and to see SO MANY people complaining about it later does feel like petty thanklessness and I understand why one might want to trivialize all their comments and use words that the system has to go " *** " over a lot, too. But what it sounds like from what I read here, is confusion over points tabulation caused the wrong dancer to be announced as winner and you really have to understand how that makes everyone look at your powwow. Even the smallest mistakes can ruin in some people's eyes what might really be a big, beautiful production. People don't pay attention to the Lamborghini nameplate when there is a nice bird splat across the windshield to attract their attention. This is what the contest powwow movement is all about, all too often. We should be quite used to seeing powwow committee members' kids and brothers and sisters winning all the money, regardless of who danced best. All over the place. This whole system is sometimes just another extension of the NDN welfare state. When underhanded "mistakes" are made, that's what allows the anti-sovereignty movement to say "Aha!" and move to assimilate us into mainstream America and abolish the reservations. Better luck NEXT YEAR. __________________ "Friends don't let friends drink decaf..."** Relaunched Nov 1, 2008. Completely rebuilt and easier to use than ever.

09-28-2005, 07:59 PM	#33 (permalink)
*~~Xammy~~* PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kinlani, Az. Posts: 2,285	Lydall is from Flagstaff, Az. ;) __________________ "Smile If U's A Hottie" :50: "Good Better Best Never Let It Rest Until The Good Is Better And The Better Is Best" :D

08-09-2005, 11:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
DANTS Junior Dancer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 178	Elmo has an awesome arbor......except for that middle part(gets in the way), oustanding singing contest, beautiful backdrop and nice people. I'm planning on go'n back and would encourage those who haven't been.....to attend next year. About the Men's Fancy results......I think Blackfeet Dancer has a point....these up coming fancy dancers JJ, Clint and Stan Jr. looked reall good, I was surprsied none of them got in. I also agree with MAD SKILLZ....on that particular weekend the older guys put on a good show and the results seemed fairly accurate......in the that category.

08-28-2005, 09:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
NativeBabyDoll Senior Dancer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flathead Rez, Montana Posts: 604	ALL THIS BICKERING AND *****ING ABOUT THIS POWWOW LONGGGG AFTER ITS OVER AND DONE WITH IS MAKING ME NOT WANT TO COME HERE TO POWWOWS.COM ANYMORE. i mean for fudge sakes people its done and overwith GET over it already!!!

09-30-2005, 05:44 PM	#34 (permalink)
su~CREE~tness Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	I think them blks are like all home twon commitees they faver the people from home.