09-09-2004, 04:44 PM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
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Shinnecock Powwow
Good weather for a change at Shinnecock. NO RAIN!!!!!!YEAH!!
Less Dancers than last year. Nice Concert on Friday Night!!! Cool Music!!!!! Competition was not exciting (adult categories only had one song) ???????Ivan Lone Child placed first in men's grass, Ginew Benton placed second when he should have placed first and Delwin & Bryan (Blue regalia & won Schemitzun in 1994) should have placed too?????????????? :34: Categories had predetermined winners Dancers who did not place should have!!!!!!!! Some of the people who placed couldn't dance at all!!! Judging problems in almost every category Inexperienced judges Lightfoot performed and he grass danced Drums - Sacred Leader(host), Mystic River(co-host), Young Guns, Silver Cloud, Commod Squad - Drum Competition can't remember who placed. Big Brawl on Saturday night. Watch out!!! Bottles Flying & windows getting smashed. People going to the hospital. Hope they are okay. We had to move our campsite twice. Congrats to: Vera Addi- Women's Southern Traditional Ginew Benton-Men's Grass Winners of the specials (Traditional & Fancy) Drew Lyn- Jr. Men's Grass Alex Loeb - Jr. Men's Grass Peanut Roberts - Jr. Men's Grass B.J. Black Kettle - Jr. Men's Traditional (Chicken Dancer) Turtle BigMountain - Jr. Men's Traditional Pauline Hilton - Women's Golden Age Blanket Vincent Kent - Men's Southern Straight Dan Addi - Men's Southern Straight Paige Burgess - Men's Southern Straight Ashay IronStar - Women's Jingle (3rd) Rowena Roberts - Women's Jingle (1st) Amanda Ironstar - Women's Fancy Andrea (Shinnecock) - Smoke Dance Ayana Smith - Women's Eastern Blanket (1st) & Smoke Dance Raoule Hilton - Boys Grass (1st) Sunshine Gumbs -Jr. Women Jingle (2nd) Karen Hunter - Golden Age Women's Blanket (1st) Margarite Pompana-Golden Age Women's Blanket (2nd) Magee Black Kettle - Golden Age Women Traditional (1st) Sharon Roberts - Golden Age Women Traditional (3rd) Mr. Roberts - Golden Age Men Traditional From what I can remember.....................it really was a trip! Next Year need to: 1. Add another age category - 34-49 2. More Security 3. Better Judges (Professionals) 4. Add more Specials (Old Style Jingle, Chicken Dance, Switch Dance, Team Dance, Eastern WoodlandsTraditional -Buckskin dresses, Trick Song Special (All Fancy Dancers). 5. Count points from exhibitions & spot checks 6. Competition - 2 songs for each category 7. 2 consulation spots in each category 8. Acknowledge Shinnecock Princess 9. Take off points for not dancing in exhibitons. No walk arounds for exhibitions. 10. Have a Fair Competition!!!!!!! :37: until next time..................... |
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09-10-2004, 01:26 PM
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i went to this powwow a few yrs back...the yr when litefoot got his mic shut down because this shinnecock lady came out shouting how rap music wasn't for "our kids.."...n when he asked her to say that in her language thats when they shut him down...the lady came out of no where...thats why i've never gone back..on top of that the food wuz a rip off...seatin suxs...it doesn't surprise me that the contest wuz rigged...
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09-10-2004, 01:52 PM
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Ivan Lonechild is a good dancer, a traditional man and has earned respect during his many years of dancing. How about a little respect, Hachi?
A brawl? I don't get it. I thought that the hosts try to welcome the visitors and show them hospitality. Not scare the crap out of them. |
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09-10-2004, 02:09 PM
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Good job Ivan...way to show'em! |
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09-10-2004, 04:36 PM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
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Confused???
Okay some of you may be a little confused about my post. Let me be clear there were a lot of very good dancers there and yes most powwows now a days are rigged whether you want to believe it or not. This was so rigged that kids were talking about how bad it was. Also what do you mean about sliding my name in there..... I did not even compete at Shinnecock, I was chillin' but I did pay attention to the competition. Every now & then it is good to sit back & watch. I did however place at Schemitzun. I have respect for good dancers and people who put their heart into what they do, so do not assume that I am a disrespectful person. I was looking at the competition for pure dance not the big name of the dancer or how many people they know. I guess you had to be there to get the big picture!!!!! I am glad that other people agree with me.
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09-10-2004, 05:12 PM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
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Hey what's happening? All that happened? Dang!! I was there but I guess I waz sleep for all the action. T do not have a list this time. Maybe someone will post the winners.
I think 2nd place Women's Jingle was Becky Taylor. |
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09-10-2004, 05:48 PM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
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i was there also, and yes they did have the same judges that judged the same contest both days, as they will undoubtly pick the same dancers they do need to change the judges, but i do think all in all it was fair except for this fact. also if they do make a 18 to 35 catorgie they need to raise the age on golden age to 60 or so, so the age difference will even out. as always the security was bad, when will they get this under control, when alot of people get hurt, also they seemed to have run off certian tribes as say the nagarresents sorry for the spelling. as they were none in the blacket dances, only 2 in the heart of this catories land. something is very wrong.
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09-10-2004, 06:06 PM
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09-14-2004, 10:32 PM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
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Heehee!
I was there all 4 days and was able to see it from a lot of different ummm....perspectives shall we say :) There was a lot of issues with the winners. It wasn't even a Shinnecock preference, the judges just have their favorites. My best friend danced and was really ripped off, but that's how it goes. If I can get my hands on a list of all the winners I'll put it up. Here are a few I do know: Mens Smoke Dance, 3rd place: Sean Yazzi Womens Smoke Dance, 1st place: Melanie Tompaho (spelling) Drum, 2nd Place: Silvercloud Girls Traditional, 1st place: Tarlyn Tompaho Boys Traditional, 1st place: Preston (Buddy) Tompaho jr. Womens Blanket, 1st place: Ayana Smith There are some definate security issues going on that need to be fixed. As always, Shinnecocks and Narrangansetts were fighting...happens every year! The concert friday night was awesome, but I'm a little biased. My boyfriend's mom sings with the Thunderbird Sisters. I didn't think I would like Irene Bedard's music, but ended up really enjoying it. Hachi....Where are you from? Are you Shinnecock? |
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