Seneca Boarder Crossing and Salamanca Question - Page 2

3ndnbear · 07-10-2006, 01:46 PM

please please please... i think that you will get more registered in smoke if you decide to let that rule slide... and since competition is on friday, people will HAVE to be there for that which means more people staying one more night which equals more revenue.. lol.. gaw! just pluggin the pow wow enit!! lol...
but for real, you should open it up for people... which means me... lol..

Stokkeland · 07-10-2006, 05:23 PM

I just got it confirmed from the committee that the pow wow rules are correct, you will have to choose a single category (between Smoke or Traditional), and this goes for both the Seneca pow wow's...

whattaheck · 07-10-2006, 07:25 PM

OK...i gots me some questions or I guess clarifications?
so...this is FOR SURE..smoke dancers have a competition on Friday nite? so are they announcing the winners on Saturday night or are they making the smoke dancers dance 3 rounds? Is just a new thing?

So that means that out of towners got make sure that they fly there after work and then stay over two night...come on now, not everyone has annunity money to throw around...LOL

I think that the same rules should apply for all catergories...i think this is why a lot of powwow people don't take smoke dance seriously.

whattaheck · 07-10-2006, 07:26 PM

OK...i gots me some questions or I guess clarifications?
so...this is FOR SURE..smoke dancers have a competition on Friday nite? so are they announcing the winners on Saturday night or are they making the smoke dancers dance 3 rounds? Is just a new thing?

So that means that out of towners got make sure that they fly there after work and then stay over two night...come on now, not everyone has annunity money to throw around...LOL

I think that the same rules should apply for all catergories...i think this is why a lot of powwow people don't take smoke dance seriously. Can someone from the committee get on here and answer Please and Nya:weh!!

Stokkeland · 07-10-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by whattaheck

OK...i gots me some questions or I guess clarifications?
so...this is FOR SURE..smoke dancers have a competition on Friday nite? so are they announcing the winners on Saturday night or are they making the smoke dancers dance 3 rounds? Is just a new thing?

So that means that out of towners got make sure that they fly there after work and then stay over two night...come on now, not everyone has annunity money to throw around...LOL

I think that the same rules should apply for all catergories...i think this is why a lot of powwow people don't take smoke dance seriously. Can someone from the committee get on here and answer Please and Nya:weh!!

Niagara Falls is doing it differently than Allegany (Salamanca), Salamanca Do NOT start competitions on Friday.

I am not on the committee in Niagara Falls I am just doing the computer-stuff with/for them, and honestly I don't know many details about their schedule, here is the only schedule I have seen for Niagara Falls, I believe they are still doing it this way, which indicates smoke dance on Friday, not sure how many rounds they do, (copy and paste from a document they emailed me):

Friday, July 14, 2006

6:00 pm – Iroquois Singing Contest (Preliminaries)
6:45pm – Kids (6-12) & Teens (13-17) Men and Women Smoke Dance
8:00 pm – Iroquois Social Dancing

Saturday, July 15, 2006

10:00am – Vendor area opens
NOON – Border Crossing (Rainbow Bridge)
1:45 pm – Drum Roll Call
2:00pm - Grand Entry, Invocation, Welcome Speeches, Veterans Special
2:30pm – Intertribal Dancing and Contest
3:00pm – Tiny Tots Exhibition
4:00pm - Iroquois Singing Contest (Semi-Finals)
4:30pm – Head Male Dance Giveaways
5:00pm - Dinner Break
6:00pm – Drum Roll Call
6:30pm – Grand Entry, Flag song, Veterans Honor Song
7:15pm – Exhibition Youth and Teen Contest followed by full round of Adult Contest

** Lineup subject to change

Sunday, July 16, 2006

10:00am Vendor area opens
11:45am – Drum Roll call
NOON – Grand Entry, Invocation, Veteran’s Song
1:00pm – Tiny Tots Exhibition
1:30pm – Full Round of Contest – All Categories
4:30pm – Tie Breakers/Intertribal
5:00pm – Head Female Dance Giveaways
6:00pm – Closing, Invocation, Contest Winners Announced, Retiring of the Flags and Victory song

**Lineup subject to change

I will notify a couple of the Niagara Falls Comittee Members this thread.

**Kiwehnzii** · 07-10-2006, 11:30 PM

Same money for smoke dance as the others. I guess it is only fair that they should register in only one. Otherwise, it would be just greed that someone register in one or more categories, right.

Hey, maybe I could register in tiny tots too so I can score some day money. Aye.

smoke_dancer_20 · 07-11-2006, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii

Hey, maybe I could register in tiny tots too so I can score some day money. Aye.

LMFAO...good one!

3ndnbear · 07-11-2006, 10:24 AM

i dont think it any different then "specails" at other pow wows... like two step, mens fancy specail, iron man or what have you, that have prize money and places...
so you say Allegany is the same way..... bummer...

smoke_dancer_20 · 07-11-2006, 10:30 PM

so do the ones who enter in smoke dance have to dance 3 rounds of contest???...or whats the plan ???...ALSO.. whens the finals for the iroquois singing contest??...how will they be judged?...same as last year??....is it head to head or does everyone just sing and they get judgeD????

Saponi4ever · 07-12-2006, 02:43 PM

So, if grandentry is not until 2:00 p.m. on Saturday, what time does registration close?

Stokkeland · 07-12-2006, 06:01 PM

I just had a quick meeting with some of the committee members in Niagara Falls today, and it was just decided that they are going to drop the Iroqouis Singing Contest and replace it with Team Dancing instead.

So yes, the Grand Entry is at 2PM on Saturday, the registration will close at 1:45PM Saturday.

Some Contests Starts on friday, Male and Female Smoke Dance, Kids 6-12 and Teens 13-17.

Here is the revised Schedule:

Friday, July 14, 2006

4:30 pm Registration Opens
6:45pm – Kids (6-12) & Teens (13-17) Men and Women Smoke Dance
8:00 pm – Iroquois Social Dancing
Registration Closes

Saturday, July 15, 2006

10:00am – Vendor area opens, registration Opens
NOON – Border Crossing (Rainbow Bridge)
1:45 pm – Drum Roll Call
Registration Closes.
2:00pm - Grand Entry, Invocation, Welcome Speeches, Veterans Special
2:30pm – Intertribal Dancing and Contest
3:00pm – Tiny Tots Exhibition
4:00pm - Team Dance Contests
4:30pm – Head Male Dance Giveaways
5:00pm - Dinner Break
6:00pm – Drum Roll Call
6:30pm – Grand Entry, Flag song, Veterans Honor Song
7:15pm – Exhibition Youth and Teen Contest followed by full round of Adult Contest

** Lineup subject to change

Sunday, July 16, 2006

10:00am Vendor area opens
11:45am – Drum Roll call
NOON – Grand Entry, Invocation, Veteran’s Song
1:00pm – Tiny Tots Exhibition
1:30pm – Full Round of Contest – All Categories
4:30pm – Tie Breakers/Intertribal
5:00pm – Head Female Dance Giveaways
5:30pm - Team Dance Contests
6:00pm – Closing, Invocation, Contest Winners Announced, Retiring of the Flags and Victory song

**Lineup subject to change

whattaheck · 07-13-2006, 11:07 AM

so they are still staring the smoke dance that early!!!! NUTZ!

**Summer_June** · 07-13-2006, 07:13 PM

Well I think its better than trying to cram it all in on Saturday.

whattaheck · 07-14-2006, 12:21 AM

Suppose you're right Summer June!!! But I do think that they just using the smoke dancers so they'll have people at their social!! And, I think that 6:45 is kinda early. 8 or 9 would've been better.

La + * Mom · 07-14-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whattaheck

...But I do think that they just using the smoke dancers so they'll have people at their social!!...

- you're mean. (!) j/k. but seriously, I was wondering how grand entry, welcome speeches and a veteran's special are all going to fit in from 2:00-2:30...looks like you guys will be dancing til midnight! It's supposed to be 92 on saturday too. Good Luck!!!

07-10-2006, 01:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
3ndnbear smoke & ladies tradish Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: da:d wah ta:sa' DC Koh Posts: 330	please please please... i think that you will get more registered in smoke if you decide to let that rule slide... and since competition is on friday, people will HAVE to be there for that which means more people staying one more night which equals more revenue.. lol.. gaw! just pluggin the pow wow enit!! lol... but for real, you should open it up for people... which means me... lol.. __________________

07-10-2006, 05:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
Stokkeland White Geek Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seneca Allegany Posts: 20	Category Restrictions I just got it confirmed from the committee that the pow wow rules are correct, you will have to choose a single category (between Smoke or Traditional), and this goes for both the Seneca pow wow's... __________________ J. Thomas Stokkeland - Geek Seneca Pow Wow . Org with Online Pow Wow Dancer registration! SWNY.Net

07-10-2006, 07:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
whattaheck Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 34	Questions OK...i gots me some questions or I guess clarifications? so...this is FOR SURE..smoke dancers have a competition on Friday nite? so are they announcing the winners on Saturday night or are they making the smoke dancers dance 3 rounds? Is just a new thing? So that means that out of towners got make sure that they fly there after work and then stay over two night...come on now, not everyone has annunity money to throw around...LOL I think that the same rules should apply for all catergories...i think this is why a lot of powwow people don't take smoke dance seriously.

07-10-2006, 07:26 PM	#24 (permalink)
whattaheck Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 34	Questions OK...i gots me some questions or I guess clarifications? so...this is FOR SURE..smoke dancers have a competition on Friday nite? so are they announcing the winners on Saturday night or are they making the smoke dancers dance 3 rounds? Is just a new thing? So that means that out of towners got make sure that they fly there after work and then stay over two night...come on now, not everyone has annunity money to throw around...LOL I think that the same rules should apply for all catergories...i think this is why a lot of powwow people don't take smoke dance seriously. Can someone from the committee get on here and answer Please and Nya:weh!!

07-11-2006, 10:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
3ndnbear smoke & ladies tradish Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: da:d wah ta:sa' DC Koh Posts: 330	i dont think it any different then "specails" at other pow wows... like two step, mens fancy specail, iron man or what have you, that have prize money and places... so you say Allegany is the same way..... bummer... __________________

07-10-2006, 11:30 PM	#26 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,872	Same money for smoke dance as the others. I guess it is only fair that they should register in only one. Otherwise, it would be just greed that someone register in one or more categories, right. Hey, maybe I could register in tiny tots too so I can score some day money. Aye.

07-11-2006, 10:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
smoke_dancer_20 yohoh-yo:yanehiyo-ohho-!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ohswe:ge^ "Six Nations rez" Posts: 327	so do the ones who enter in smoke dance have to dance 3 rounds of contest???...or whats the plan ???...ALSO.. whens the finals for the iroquois singing contest??...how will they be judged?...same as last year??....is it head to head or does everyone just sing and they get judgeD???? __________________ -[]-[ ]-/\-[ ]-[]-

07-12-2006, 02:43 PM	#30 (permalink)
Saponi4ever Northern Drum Sanga Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 144	So, if grandentry is not until 2:00 p.m. on Saturday, what time does registration close?

07-13-2006, 11:07 AM	#32 (permalink)
whattaheck Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 34	no changes??? so they are still staring the smoke dance that early!!!! NUTZ!

07-13-2006, 07:13 PM	#33 (permalink)
Summer_June -tradish_hunni.-* Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Six Nations Posts: 1,221	Well I think its better than trying to cram it all in on Saturday. __________________ ~PowWows.com Princess 2006-2007~

07-14-2006, 12:21 AM	#34 (permalink)
whattaheck Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 34	Suppose you're right Summer June!!! But I do think that they just using the smoke dancers so they'll have people at their social!! And, I think that 6:45 is kinda early. 8 or 9 would've been better.

07-14-2006, 12:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
Summer_June -tradish_hunni.-*