What? Natives need passports????

WhoMe · 02-09-2006, 12:18 PM

I have just heard from two sources that due to the terror threat, First Nations and American Indians now need passports to cross into and from the US/Canadian border.

Is this true?

Can anyone provide anymore information?

Is the Jay Treaty not being taken into consideration?

This is going to affect many powwows if it is true.

**Kiwehnzii** · 02-09-2006, 01:06 PM

As of Dec.31,2006, anyone entering or re-entering the U.S.a. by air, or train, will have to have a government issued i.d. card. It is still unsure of the Aboriginal peoples status on this. They are working on it. To be sure, the Jay Treaty will have some bearing on the decision.
At first, passports were to be mandatory, but the opted for the card. I imagine Canada will also require those ( for lack of a better word) passport cards. I cross quite frequently for powwows, so instead of being denied entry, I'll probly get one. In Canada, we have a new status card that looks pretty official with the magnetic stripe and all, so that might be the one that status Indians may use. We'll see.

That's all I know.

I had to come back and correct the date. I shoulda put Dec. but I put Jan.

WhoMe · 02-09-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii

As of Jan.31,2006, anyone entering or re-entering the U.S.a. by air, or train, will have to have a government issued i.d. card. ...That's all I know.

Kiwehnzii,

No wonder I am just hearing of this new rule! It is less than two weeks old!

Then it IS true!

The two American Indians that recently crossed two different borders had no problems getting into Canada, but were DETAINED trying to reenter the United States!

One of these Indian individuals is a household name in Indian country!!!!

Passport time EVERYBODY?????

hywalker · 02-09-2006, 02:04 PM

lol just getting off the phone for the powwow cruise and was told we need a passport. and here u all are talking about the very law we just ran into too kewl

WhoMe · 02-09-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hywalker

lol just getting off the phone for the powwow cruise and was told we need a passport. and here u all are talking about the very law we just ran into too kewl

Hey hywalker,

Am I going to see you next weekend? No passport needed here!

powwowbum49 · 02-09-2006, 02:20 PM

My question would be how are First Nations that live in the US permanently as 'legal resident aliens' supposed to get their passport/travel ID card now when they never needed it to get here too start with?

Sounds like this is the current situation my wife and son now find themselves.

hywalker · 02-09-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe

Hey hywalker,

Am I going to see you next weekend? No passport needed here!

LOL@no passport, you know it. Just got off the phone booking our hotel room, and due in early friday morning for the duration

hoping to get a lil time to slip over to the gilchrist museum, havent had the time to visit there yet.

kiowakat · 02-09-2006, 02:31 PM

dang sounds like a hassel getting a passport!!!!...anyways hywalker was not looking forward to being shark bait on this cruise coming up,LOL draggin his feet...well I called like he said I did and got a room and the guy was tellin me there is a topless deck on this ship LMAO now hywalker is all packed and ready to go WTF???? LMAO

WhoMe · 02-09-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by powwowbum49

My question would be how are First Nations that live in the US permanently as 'legal resident aliens' supposed to get their passport/travel ID card now when they never needed it to get here too start with?

Sounds like this is the current situation my wife and son now find themselves.

Bum,

Because this rule is recently being enforced, many parts of this rule have yet to be sorted out.

Does your wife and son look like aliens? Have they been known to terrorize? *L How bout' that cute lil' daughter?

Hywalker,

I'm coming in on Thursday night. I'm not sure where they are putting me up yet. But I will see you at the events center sometime on Friday!

**Kiwehnzii** · 02-10-2006, 12:33 AM

I am so sorry people. In my first post ( now changed ) I put down Jan 31, 2006.

I shoulda put Dec.31, 2006.

Oneida2222 · 02-10-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kiowakat

dang sounds like a hassel getting a passport!!!!...

I recently had to get a passport for travel to Mexico for work-related reasons. Never thought I would have a passport, I was always used to having my status card and everything being all cool.

Getting the passport wasn't too painful. If you are in the States, it will cost $97 total if you don't want it expedited within 14 days ($153 if you need it IMMEDIATELY). The post office can process it for you. They have the forms there as well. You will need Proof of U.S. Citizenship (certified birth certificate), Proof of Identity, 2 color pictures and the fees. Here is the link to the U.S. Department of State where you can get more information:

http://travel.state.gov/

kiowakat · 02-10-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Oneida2222

I recently had to get a passport for travel to Mexico for work-related reasons. Never thought I would have a passport, I was always used to having my status card and everything being all cool.

Getting the passport wasn't too painful. If you are in the States, it will cost $97 total if you don't want it expedited within 14 days ($153 if you need it IMMEDIATELY). The post office can process it for you. They have the forms there as well. You will need Proof of U.S. Citizenship (certified birth certificate), Proof of Identity, 2 color pictures and the fees. Here is the link to the U.S. Department of State where you can get more information:

http://travel.state.gov/

Aho!! Oneida2222 I'll go check that out !!!!

Oneida2222 · 02-10-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kiowakat

Aho!! Oneida2222 I'll go check that out !!!!

Good luck kiowakat! Make sure your passport photos are the correct size, darn Kinko's did mine too big and the post office refused to process until I had them redone. Big greezy brown face was just too much, I guess!

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Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,871	As of Dec.31,2006, anyone entering or re-entering the U.S.a. by air, or train, will have to have a government issued i.d. card. It is still unsure of the Aboriginal peoples status on this. They are working on it. To be sure, the Jay Treaty will have some bearing on the decision. At first, passports were to be mandatory, but the opted for the card. I imagine Canada will also require those ( for lack of a better word) passport cards. I cross quite frequently for powwows, so instead of being denied entry, I'll probly get one. In Canada, we have a new status card that looks pretty official with the magnetic stripe and all, so that might be the one that status Indians may use. We'll see. That's all I know. I had to come back and correct the date. I shoulda put Dec. but I put Jan. Last edited by Kiwehnzii; 02-10-2006 at 12:28 AM.

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powwowbum49 Arena Director Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: midwest, USA Posts: 810	My question would be how are First Nations that live in the US permanently as 'legal resident aliens' supposed to get their passport/travel ID card now when they never needed it to get here too start with? Sounds like this is the current situation my wife and son now find themselves. __________________ PB49 "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.

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02-09-2006, 02:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
kiowakat Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St.Louis Posts: 1,243	dang sounds like a hassel getting a passport!!!!...anyways hywalker was not looking forward to being shark bait on this cruise coming up,LOL draggin his feet...well I called like he said I did and got a room and the guy was tellin me there is a topless deck on this ship LMAO now hywalker is all packed and ready to go WTF???? LMAO

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Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,871	I am so sorry people. In my first post ( now changed ) I put down Jan 31, 2006. I shoulda put Dec.31, 2006.

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