41st Annual Haliwa-Saponi Powwow April 14-16, 2006 - Page 7

Kanku Dai Warrior · 04-25-2006, 03:32 PM

Please stop..... This is not the appropriate way to handle this. Start a new thread about dance styles or something this has gone beyond Hollister. Emmy, I am sending you an private email about this now.

No disrespect meant.

**Emmy** · 04-25-2006, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii

Anyways.................... didja all have a good time?

yes we did. thanks 4 asking

taani · 04-25-2006, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanku Dai Warrior

Please stop..... This is not the appropriate way to handle this. Start a new thread about dance styles or something this has gone beyond Hollister. Emmy, I am sending you an private email about this now.

No disrespect meant.

YES!!! thank you!

Sweet_N8tive65 · 04-29-2006, 10:54 PM

Just wondering where the Grey family was at Hollister this year? It's always nice to see them !! Hope all is well.

tallinjun · 04-30-2006, 12:08 AM

Yeah I was wondering where they were. I saw Shirra Jr. there but forgot to ask where his folks were. Can anybody let me know where I can get there email address. Always good to see them. Well if anybody gots any info...pm me.

Tallinjun

Sweet_N8tive65 · 04-30-2006, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onegoofyND

Also, it seemed to me that the judges selected were all close friends of the winners announced. (Thats probably why most of the good dancers did not even place) Alot of the same judges were called too. Guess they could not find anyone else to be judges, LOL.
Guess they weren't in the "in crowd" and judges were playing the name game and not judging on how they dance!!! HOW PETTY.

I hate to admit....but I have to agree with one goofy ND. The judging was very questionable.

I've been to this pow-wow many of times and have been a head judge and head dancer before.....so I know what is expected of all of them.

Here are my pros and cons........
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usually 1st pow-wow of the year for alot of people

lots of excellant dancers

good drums

good vendors

BBQ & Sweet Tea

Always lots of tiny tot dancers!

Good AD

Awesome Men's Fancy Dance Competition

Bon Fire

Chief Richardsons enthusiasm

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head dancers competing

tribal employees competing / judging and winning

adult competitions were in the dark and rushed

same judges from the "NC Pow-wow Trail Clique"

friends judging friends

Few out of state/visitor or elder judges

People on stage looking over the judges shoulder at time of line up

Just writing what y'all are thinking!

rdhotluvr · 04-30-2006, 01:12 AM

Let me just say I was pi$$ed off Fri night and should not have gone back the rest of the weekend. Why??? Let me explain..... I showed up at the powwow on Fri night at around 8:00 and me and my friens were charged $36 to get in. We asked how late the powwow was goin on. They said at least 11:00.Cool!!! Well we got in there only to have it close up around9:30 WTF??? What a rip off!!!!!! Guess the "other"dance was more important!!!!

**NDNQt** · 05-01-2006, 07:16 AM

Hey SweetNative & Tallinjun, there was a death in Dorothy's family so they diddn't come.

Saponi4ever · 05-01-2006, 10:05 AM

Sweet_N8tive65,

I appreciate your opinion and your response to the "questionable" judging practices at our powwow. What in your opinion is wrong with the head dancers dancing in competition? For one, the powwow committee has not been given the funds to fully pay head dancers, so we allowed them to compete. Second, I feel that the head dancers are at a disadvantage anyway when it comes to competition. They're expected to dance HARD every dance, not just sit around in the shade waiting for contest to come up like a lot of dancers do these days.

What is wrong with Tribal employees dancing at the powwow. Are you saying the powwow is rigged if they place? I"m sorry that the adult competitions were in the dark and "rushed". I"ll recommend to the committee that we rent some extra lights. As far as being rushed, I've been to a lot of powwows that do contest a lot quicker than we did.

Now, for the judges. I swear I tried to "mix it up" and had a lot of out of town judges. Folks from Michigan, Canada, Kansas, Cherokee, and other places were called as judges. I'm sorry folks from the so-called "NC Pow-wow Trail Clique" were judges, but that's who was mostly there!! Oh should we call judges from other places only? I don't think so. Again, I appreciate the responses, and all of this will be taken into consideration. I hope you'll still come back to see us.

Smokin' Ace · 05-01-2006, 02:29 PM

Well - I still had a ball - and Marty I think you did a superb job. The fact that this pow-wow is still being discussed two weeks after the fact tells us that it left an impression. I am looking forward to seeing all of you folks at Lumbee this weekend - then you can carry on the *****ing after that. I am sure someone will get pissed off at something.

Pow-wow hard!!!!

Smokin' Ace · 05-01-2006, 02:36 PM

...and one more thing!!!

It shows the integrity of this pow-wow committee in the fact that they do post their comments here. How many times have we seen pow-wows slammed to the ground and stomped on and their reputations ruined? If any or all of these allegations or statements had merit, the committee may not be coming out to speak. I applaud any committee that speaks up - it defuses many situations....I am proud of the committee and I think things ran rather smoothly - of course, I did just sit in the shade and visit with my fam - lol. But it's all good.

It is one of the pow-wows that everyone looks forward to... it does rock - and I am not just saying that because it is my tribe... I say it because it is true.

sioux dude · 05-01-2006, 08:05 PM

I'd just like to say that This powwow keeps gettin better and better. Even though I only made it out for sunday....I had a great time. Bear Creek was jammin and congrats to the powwow committee and everyone who placed!!

SeaHawk · 05-02-2006, 01:07 AM

Good job Marty!!!

DANCINGEAGLE · 05-02-2006, 12:09 PM

For the short time that I was there on Saturday, I really enjoyed myself. It was good to see some old friends. Marty, you did an excellent job, as well as, all of the p/w committee. Y'all keep up the good work. See y'all down the road.

saponi · 05-02-2006, 01:14 PM

I've taken some good pictures at our pow-wow this year. But I'm having trouble uploading them

. My files are too large and I'm not quite sure if I can decrease them in size. Oh well, patience is a virtue. I'll figure it out!

04-25-2006, 03:32 PM	#121 (permalink)
Kanku Dai Warrior Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indian Country Posts: 89	Please stop!!!! Please stop..... This is not the appropriate way to handle this. Start a new thread about dance styles or something this has gone beyond Hollister. Emmy, I am sending you an private email about this now. No disrespect meant. __________________ The needs of the many outway the needs of the one.............

04-30-2006, 12:08 AM	#125 (permalink)
tallinjun President of TallNDN INC. Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Relocated back to Denver Posts: 798	Yeah I was wondering where they were. I saw Shirra Jr. there but forgot to ask where his folks were. Can anybody let me know where I can get there email address. Always good to see them. Well if anybody gots any info...pm me. Tallinjun __________________ I'm a Lover, not a Fighter!!!!

05-01-2006, 07:16 AM	#128 (permalink)
NDNQt PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Aylett, VA Posts: 1,076	Hey SweetNative & Tallinjun, there was a death in Dorothy's family so they diddn't come. __________________ Becky B.

05-01-2006, 02:29 PM	#130 (permalink)
Smokin' Ace Arena Director Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: United States Posts: 4,114	Well - I still had a ball - and Marty I think you did a superb job. The fact that this pow-wow is still being discussed two weeks after the fact tells us that it left an impression. I am looking forward to seeing all of you folks at Lumbee this weekend - then you can carry on the *****ing after that. I am sure someone will get pissed off at something. Pow-wow hard!!!! __________________ Everything is gonna be alright! Be blessed - got love??? This b me..... www.myspace.com/akayo

05-01-2006, 02:36 PM	#131 (permalink)
Smokin' Ace Arena Director Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: United States Posts: 4,114	...and one more thing!!! It shows the integrity of this pow-wow committee in the fact that they do post their comments here. How many times have we seen pow-wows slammed to the ground and stomped on and their reputations ruined? If any or all of these allegations or statements had merit, the committee may not be coming out to speak. I applaud any committee that speaks up - it defuses many situations....I am proud of the committee and I think things ran rather smoothly - of course, I did just sit in the shade and visit with my fam - lol. But it's all good. It is one of the pow-wows that everyone looks forward to... it does rock - and I am not just saying that because it is my tribe... I say it because it is true. __________________ Everything is gonna be alright! Be blessed - got love??? This b me..... www.myspace.com/akayo

04-29-2006, 10:54 PM	#124 (permalink)
Sweet_N8tive65 Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12	Just wondering where the Grey family was at Hollister this year? It's always nice to see them !! Hope all is well.

04-30-2006, 01:12 AM	#127 (permalink)
rdhotluvr Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6	Let me just say I was pi$$ed off Fri night and should not have gone back the rest of the weekend. Why??? Let me explain..... I showed up at the powwow on Fri night at around 8:00 and me and my friens were charged $36 to get in. We asked how late the powwow was goin on. They said at least 11:00.Cool!!! Well we got in there only to have it close up around9:30 WTF??? What a rip off!!!!!! Guess the "other"dance was more important!!!!

05-01-2006, 10:05 AM	#129 (permalink)
Saponi4ever Northern Drum Sanga Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 144	Sweet_N8tive65, I appreciate your opinion and your response to the "questionable" judging practices at our powwow. What in your opinion is wrong with the head dancers dancing in competition? For one, the powwow committee has not been given the funds to fully pay head dancers, so we allowed them to compete. Second, I feel that the head dancers are at a disadvantage anyway when it comes to competition. They're expected to dance HARD every dance, not just sit around in the shade waiting for contest to come up like a lot of dancers do these days. What is wrong with Tribal employees dancing at the powwow. Are you saying the powwow is rigged if they place? I"m sorry that the adult competitions were in the dark and "rushed". I"ll recommend to the committee that we rent some extra lights. As far as being rushed, I've been to a lot of powwows that do contest a lot quicker than we did. Now, for the judges. I swear I tried to "mix it up" and had a lot of out of town judges. Folks from Michigan, Canada, Kansas, Cherokee, and other places were called as judges. I'm sorry folks from the so-called "NC Pow-wow Trail Clique" were judges, but that's who was mostly there!! Oh should we call judges from other places only? I don't think so. Again, I appreciate the responses, and all of this will be taken into consideration. I hope you'll still come back to see us.

05-01-2006, 08:05 PM	#132 (permalink)
sioux dude Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 3	I'd just like to say that This powwow keeps gettin better and better. Even though I only made it out for sunday....I had a great time. Bear Creek was jammin and congrats to the powwow committee and everyone who placed!!

05-02-2006, 01:07 AM	#133 (permalink)
SeaHawk Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: where the earth meets the sky next to the creek Posts: 142	Good job Marty!!! __________________ "I am not a superhero; just one of the few working hard and long for the survival of my PEOPLE."

05-02-2006, 12:09 PM	#134 (permalink)
DANCINGEAGLE BikerBoyNDNStyle Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Where the rubber meets the road! Posts: 696	For the short time that I was there on Saturday, I really enjoyed myself. It was good to see some old friends. Marty, you did an excellent job, as well as, all of the p/w committee. Y'all keep up the good work. See y'all down the road. __________________ Through the good times and bad times, always pray.

05-02-2006, 01:14 PM	#135 (permalink)
saponi Junior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 192	I've taken some good pictures at our pow-wow this year. But I'm having trouble uploading them . My files are too large and I'm not quite sure if I can decrease them in size. Oh well, patience is a virtue. I'll figure it out! __________________ ~~Saponi~~

05-19-2006, 01:20 PM	#136 (permalink)
saponi Junior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 192