2006 Stanford Powwow - Page 5

**Ta'neeszahnii Techno** · 05-19-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelg196

Being half Mexican I don't mind Aztez dancers at all. It lets others know being indeginous is more than being American Indian, but those who are below the border as well. They do their thing and all but I don't think they should be in Grand Entry and I don't think they should go before those with eagle feathers.

It's like they start and end their ceremony/dance rituals during the powwow break.

What about the Gourd Dancers? They start and end the gourd sessions before the processional of dancers and participate in the processional of dancers.

If one believes in equal representation, all native people are welcome to participate in the "grand entry". Just my 2-cents ... not out to pick on anyone.

rachelg196 · 05-19-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ta'neeszahnii Techno

What about the Gourd Dancers? They start and end the gourd sessions before the processional of dancers and participate in the processional of dancers.

If one believes in equal representation, all native people are welcome to participate in the "grand entry". Just my 2-cents ... not out to pick on anyone.

American Indian powwows...American Indian. The gourd dancers are American Indian.

**Ta'neeszahnii Techno** · 05-19-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelg196

American Indian powwows...American Indian. The gourd dancers are American Indian.

I guess you can say that if you draw boundaries around you, but the last time I checked, the Aztec are native people from Central America and there are native people in South America, Hawaii, Alaska and Canada as well.

**NDNQt** · 05-19-2006, 03:39 PM

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rachelg196 · 05-19-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ta'neeszahnii Techno

I guess you can say that if you draw boundaries around you, but the last time I checked, the Aztec are native people from Central America and there are native people in South America, Hawaii, Alaska and Canada as well.

Nope actually they were from Mexico, NOT Central America. The moderen day Mexico City, DF was once the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan.

They do their thing during pur break.

**Ta'neeszahnii Techno** · 05-19-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelg196

Nope actually they were from Mexico, NOT Central America. The moderen day Mexico City, DF was once the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan.

They do their thing during pur break.

North America occupies the northern portion of the landmass generally referred to as the New World, the Western hemisphere, the Americas, or simply America. North America's only land connection is to South America at the narrow Isthmus of Panama. (For geopolitical reasons, all of Panama – including the segment east of the Panama Canal in the isthmus – is often considered a part of North America alone.)

According to some authorities, North America begins not at the Isthmus of Panama but at the Isthmus of Tehuantepec, with the intervening region called Central America (or Middle America if the Caribbean is included) and resting on the Caribbean Plate. Before the Central American isthmus was raised, the region had been underwater. The islands of the West Indies delineate a submerged former land bridge, which had connected North America and South America via Florida.

rachelg196 · 05-19-2006, 05:08 PM

I was going to say in all my classes I have never heard that. But that's not the point. The point is, I don't think they should be included in Grand Entry. They did their own grand entry thing if you ever watched them or had some of the dances explained. I have friend who used to dance as she was from DF, and she said she never felt right about dancing in a grand entry, because they did their last song and ended it for her.
Anyway, I guess you don't believe Central American, North American line that you posted.

why should this matter to you what I think?

**Ta'neeszahnii Techno** · 05-19-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelg196

I was going to say in all my classes I have never heard that. But that's not the point. The point is, I don't think they should be included in Grand Entry. They did their own grand entry thing if you ever watched them or had some of the dances explained. I have friend who used to dance as she was from DF, and she said she never felt right about dancing in a grand entry, because they did their last song and ended it for her.
Anyway, I guess you don't believe Central American, North American line that you posted.

why should this matter to you what I think?

The last thing I'm going to post about this is that if you or anyone else don't agree what happens during grand entry, then complain to the powwow committee ... or go somewhere else until grand entry is over.

Brisa26 · 05-19-2006, 05:43 PM

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Errrban_FancyShawler · 05-19-2006, 06:23 PM

How 'bout RANDY PASKEMIN won that GRASS SPECIAL tho! AND How 'bout i wuz glad tha Aztec dancers were in grand entry with us cuz it gave us more time to get ready if we wuz running late!! LMAO jks :-p AND HOw' bout....LOL jks...k im done!! bUT I caN't Wait for next yearz powwow!!!

rachelg196 · 05-19-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brisa26

hullo people, heard Stanford was pretty good this year all nice and sunny

anyway, I'm from Mexico City and I'm also a dancer by tradition. The powwows our family group has attended have for the most part invited us to partake in the Grand Entry... It was explained to us a long time ago that powwows are intertribal and so they'd be happy if we could join in. When we are asked, we partake.
Our family in particular though, doesn't ask to be involved in Grand Entries not out of offense but rather out of respect... our traditions and customs when it comes to dancing are a bit different and we always try to take care not to offend anyone especially the elders.
And judging from what Rachel196 posts, there are some who do have issues with it? But Rachel 196, what u have to keep in mind is that it is the Arena Director who arranges the different dance categories in line for Grand Entry... not us.

Yup, my family had issues with the arena director. The lineup was all out of whack, they might have all came in at once. I missed it on Sunday, but Saturday night wasn't good. Along with that there was someone where with a sundance skirt on!
My friend had the same thoughts as you, especially since she was half Pomo and half Mexican from D.F.

**Ta'neeszahnii Techno** · 05-20-2006, 02:26 PM

Maybe the arena director wasn't wearing his colorful vest during the grand entry on Saturday Evening, eh?

**Ta'neeszahnii Techno** · 05-22-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelg196

The point is, I don't think they should be included in Grand Entry.

why should this matter to you what I think?

Rachelg196, you're cool!

Point well taken.

LollyPop · 05-22-2006, 08:21 PM

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rachelg196 Gotta get dancin' again Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 113	I was going to say in all my classes I have never heard that. But that's not the point. The point is, I don't think they should be included in Grand Entry. They did their own grand entry thing if you ever watched them or had some of the dances explained. I have friend who used to dance as she was from DF, and she said she never felt right about dancing in a grand entry, because they did their last song and ended it for her. Anyway, I guess you don't believe Central American, North American line that you posted. why should this matter to you what I think? __________________ Rachel Last edited by rachelg196; 05-19-2006 at 05:12 PM.

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Errrban_FancyShawler Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CaLi Posts: 18	How 'bout RANDY PASKEMIN won that GRASS SPECIAL tho! AND How 'bout i wuz glad tha Aztec dancers were in grand entry with us cuz it gave us more time to get ready if we wuz running late!! LMAO jks :-p AND HOw' bout....LOL jks...k im done!! bUT I caN't Wait for next yearz powwow!!! __________________ "It AiN't tHa SiZe iN tHa dAwG, iT'z tHa FiGhT iN tHa dAwG!"

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Ta'neeszahnii Techno PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tsézhintah, AZ Posts: 7,453	Maybe the arena director wasn't wearing his colorful vest during the grand entry on Saturday Evening, eh?