Crow Hop wrongs & Rights?

Apache_Fancy_Shawl · 09-28-2005, 02:41 PM

I was told once upon a time Crow Hop was for Men, Women and Children to immate the movements of
a crow... Recently I was told Women & Children are not aloud to dance Crow Hop, and ha hose who do dance it
are UN-Tradtional. I was all so told years ago Buffalo, is not a women's dance, but lately I have seen los of women
dancing Buffalo. What's up with it? I know differant tribes differant beliefs on some things... if you could answer,
it would be very helpful

**Wojapi4Me** · 09-28-2005, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache_Fancy_Shawl

I was told once upon a time Crow Hop was for Men, Women and Children to immate the movements of
a crow... Recently I was told Women & Children are not aloud to dance Crow Hop, and ha hose who do dance it
are UN-Tradtional. I was all so told years ago Buffalo, is not a women's dance, but lately I have seen los of women
dancing Buffalo. What's up with it? I know differant tribes differant beliefs on some things... if you could answer,
it would be very helpful

The most helpful advice any of us could give you is MOVE! Florida is one of the worst states in the union for pow wows. Take everything you hear there with about a gallon of salt.

I'd love for some of these so-called experts down in Florida tell some of these Crow women that they're being untraditional by dancing to their own songs.

Crow hops are Crow (the people, not the bird) songs...not about hopping like a crow (bird).

WhoMe · 09-29-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Singerdad

The most helpful advice any of us could give you is MOVE! Florida is one of the worst states in the union for pow wows. Take everything you hear there with about a gallon of salt.

I'd love for some of these so-called experts down in Florida tell some of these Crow women that they're being untraditional by dancing to their own songs.

Crow hops are Crow (the people, not the bird) songs...not about hopping like a crow (bird).

Apac_:

If you ever watch a crow (the bird) hop, it jumps on two feet - unlike the dancers.

.... better make that a truckload of salt*

buckskin pantyhose · 09-29-2005, 03:44 PM

The Crow Hop style is danced by everyone. It's become a style thats very popular amongst competition powwows for almost every category, mens & womens. If you powwow, i think its important to learn the various styles you might be asked to dance while competing....Crow Hop is what womens crow style is known for....don't believe everything you'v heard.
Good thing you asked tho, someone out there is very misinformed!

NastyFlaps · 09-29-2005, 04:15 PM

I heard once, that Jingle Dress dancers aren't supposed to dance to Crow Hops because it would make the world spin backwards.

I'm wondering if this is just a Powwow Urban Legend...

Can someone shed some light into this? Thank you...

kgirl7 · 09-30-2005, 01:08 AM

Well i don't dance jingle, but i think there was a discussion in the Jingle forum about dancing crow hop, and some of the girls said they had done it, and the world hasn't spun backward yet! I don't know if it counts as an urban legend cuz i've never heard about that before but then again, like i said i'm no expert.

Apache_Fancy_Shawl · 10-06-2005, 03:05 PM

man I know some of these people in Fl. ARE messed up, some I don't think know up from down.
wish I could move but to many hold backs here, maybe someday i will get to go to pow-wow elsewhere.
untill then I will try my best to change some of the expers around here, or at least give it a run for the money

hopping crow · 07-05-2007, 04:05 PM

I am amazed at what i am reading.The Crow Hpo is a mens dance and that is all i am saying.And yes Florida sux for the powwow trail...I hate dancing here.If a woman were to join in on a crow Hop back where i come from the drum would STOP till all women left the inner arena

**Wojapi4Me** · 07-05-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hopping crow

I am amazed at what i am reading.The Crow Hpo is a mens dance and that is all i am saying.And yes Florida sux for the powwow trail...I hate dancing here.If a woman were to join in on a crow Hop back where i come from the drum would STOP till all women left the inner arena

Where are you from? If you say Florida...don't bother writing back. If you're from an actual place that has pow wows traditionally then we'd all love to here why a drum and the pow wow would stop if women were dancing to a Crow hop...

And, just to clarify...why would the dance stop if Crow Women Dancers were dancing to THEIR SONG?????!!!!

Good grief...

WhoMe · 07-05-2007, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hopping crow

I am amazed at what i am reading.The Crow Hpo is a mens dance and that is all i am saying....If a woman were to join in on a crow Hop back where i come from the drum would STOP till all women left the inner arena

Veon · 07-05-2007, 05:01 PM

Oh boy,
this is going to be
a goot one!

**WocusWoman** · 07-05-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hopping crow

I am amazed at what i am reading.The Crow Hpo is a mens dance and that is all i am saying.And yes Florida sux for the powwow trail...I hate dancing here.If a woman were to join in on a crow Hop back where i come from the drum would STOP till all women left the inner arena

WTF! Crow women are the best at dancing THEIR crowhops... Never heard this one before.

hobbs49 · 07-05-2007, 07:24 PM

And so, after 21 months in hibernation, the rare "hopping crow" comes out of it's hutch and begins to again preach the word to all dancers who will listen....

**NorthofAda** · 07-05-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbs49

And so, after 21 months in hibernation, the rare "hopping crow" comes out of it's hutch and begins to again preach the word to all dancers who will listen....

09-28-2005, 02:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Apache_Fancy_Shawl She Who Plays with Wolves Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Floor-it-Duh Posts: 96	Crow Hop wrongs & Rights? I was told once upon a time Crow Hop was for Men, Women and Children to immate the movements of a crow... Recently I was told Women & Children are not aloud to dance Crow Hop, and ha hose who do dance it are UN-Tradtional. I was all so told years ago Buffalo, is not a women's dance, but lately I have seen los of women dancing Buffalo. What's up with it? I know differant tribes differant beliefs on some things... if you could answer, it would be very helpful __________________ I’m here without you baby but your still on my lonely mind I think about you baby and I dream about you all the time I’m here without you baby but your still with me in my dreams And tonight it’s only you and me

09-29-2005, 03:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
buckskin pantyhose Bux Back At'cha! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: middle of it all Posts: 974	The Crow Hop style is danced by everyone. It's become a style thats very popular amongst competition powwows for almost every category, mens & womens. If you powwow, i think its important to learn the various styles you might be asked to dance while competing....Crow Hop is what womens crow style is known for....don't believe everything you'v heard. Good thing you asked tho, someone out there is very misinformed! __________________ *BE EASY*

09-29-2005, 04:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
NastyFlaps Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Right here Posts: 21	But what about Jingle Dress dancers? I heard once, that Jingle Dress dancers aren't supposed to dance to Crow Hops because it would make the world spin backwards. I'm wondering if this is just a Powwow Urban Legend... Can someone shed some light into this? Thank you... __________________ "How'm I gonna get scar like that eating *****?" -Scarface

09-30-2005, 01:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
kgirl7 Hola! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 332	Well i don't dance jingle, but i think there was a discussion in the Jingle forum about dancing crow hop, and some of the girls said they had done it, and the world hasn't spun backward yet! I don't know if it counts as an urban legend cuz i've never heard about that before but then again, like i said i'm no expert. __________________ Cariblanguage.org

10-06-2005, 03:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Apache_Fancy_Shawl She Who Plays with Wolves Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Floor-it-Duh Posts: 96	you got that right *man I know some of these people in Fl. ARE messed up, some I don't think know up from down.* *wish I could move but to many hold backs here, maybe someday i will get to go to pow-wow elsewhere.* *untill then I will try my best to change some of the expers around here, or at least give it a run for the money* __________________ I’m here without you baby but your still on my lonely mind I think about you baby and I dream about you all the time I’m here without you baby but your still with me in my dreams And tonight it’s only you and me

07-05-2007, 04:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
hopping crow NORTHERN TRADITIONAL Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: ST PETE,FLORIDA Posts: 55	I am amazed at what i am reading.The Crow Hpo is a mens dance and that is all i am saying.And yes Florida sux for the powwow trail...I hate dancing here.If a woman were to join in on a crow Hop back where i come from the drum would STOP till all women left the inner arena __________________ MY HEROES HAVE ALWAYS KILLED COWBOYS

07-05-2007, 05:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
Veon Junior Dancer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Valley of the Sun Posts: 231	Oh boy, this is going to be a goot one!

07-05-2007, 07:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
hobbs49 Holy Indian Taco Batman! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Triangle Area, NC Posts: 1,174	And so, after 21 months in hibernation, the rare "hopping crow" comes out of it's hutch and begins to again preach the word to all dancers who will listen....