Using the Word REGALIA

shookshooklaquay · 06-29-2004, 04:31 PM

nothing drives me more crazy than to hear the word regalia used... I hear a lot of complaining about "white people" how they look how they dance etc...well I hear the word regalia used by almost everyone what happened to good ol dance clothes...regalia I am not sure of its origin but it was definately white people it appears in the catholic dictionary meaning royalty or crown jewels, something of kings and emperors, etc... it also means fine or decorative clothing and I am sure it has a lot more meanings I think I even read something about a cigar... I just had to get that out there and to find where it originated on the circuit what everyone else thinks about the word...and just proves how fast a trend starts and spreads like wild fire...thats all I have to say I am sorry if I offended anyone everyone is definately free to offer the comments, opinions, smart remarks whatever...thanks :)

**Roobz** · 06-29-2004, 04:57 PM

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Kio-Manche · 06-29-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruby 2sday

I usually call 'em dance outfits, dresses etc. But I'd rather hear people use the word "regalia" over "costumes" anyday.

I'm not sure on the origin of the word regalia on the trail but I can't stand the word "costumes" in reference to dance outfits! LOL

Im with Ruby 2sday, i call my regalia, well, regalia. I don't care what you call it as long as it ain't "costumes". Dang, it aint haloween!LOL

**Azhe'ni** · 06-29-2004, 05:02 PM

I think sometimes, I wonder what that means. I use it all the time. Or dance outfit. But if your not gonna use it cause it's a white man word, so is the word dance clothes. There both in English. But now I wonder how to say it in my language? Hmm. I'm gonna ask and maybe start using that instead of the two words above.

Mato Winyan · 06-29-2004, 05:12 PM

I call em whatever comes to mind.. never costume that's the big a Tonto NoNo:NoNo...:rofl2:... don't really get hung up on it. Too many important things going on for that. Most of the ones that I see get riled up over the use of a term has been white people.. dang.. so many rules.... so little time!

WhoMe · 06-29-2004, 05:59 PM

I agree with Ruby2 and Numunu.

I use the word regalia when I describe my dance outfit to non Indians because they can understand the value of my outfit through the description "regalia."

I think the word regalia came into use to cancel out the word costume.

On the flip-side . . .

I have actually heard many older fancy dancers call their dance outfits "costumes" or "rigs."

But in this age of political awareness, even Indians have conformed.

SeaHawk · 06-30-2004, 12:16 AM

Hey,
I use outfit(s) most of the time. Regalia could be a $5.00 word for outfit. I never use costume because clowns wear costumes and I am not a clown. Most white people get upset when corrected.

Blackbear · 06-30-2004, 03:12 AM

depends on if I'm holding my mouth right LOL but most of the time I call them my dance clothes or traditional clothes.
I've never had a problem with regalia simply for it fits that meaning that cited above

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it also means fine or decorative clothing

It's fine, it's decorative, it's our sunday best! It's comparable to someone else's Christian Dior tuxedo or Louis Vuitton dress, but we wear them more often. And heck.. we know we pay nearly as much for them, even in just supplies when we make them ourselves.
Miriam Webster Definition:
Main Entry: re·ga·lia
Pronunciation: ri-'gAl-y&
Function: noun plural
Etymology: Medieval Latin, from Latin, neuter plural of regalis
Date: circa 1540
1 : royal rights or prerogatives
2 a : the emblems, symbols, or paraphernalia indicative of royalty b : decorations or insignia indicative of an office or membership
3 : special dress; especially : FINERY

we all probably have a word in our native languages that is comparable don't you think?

shookshooklaquay · 06-30-2004, 09:00 AM

I totally agree with the whole costumes things...it drives me crazy when I hear people say wow look at your beautiful costume and I usually say I aint trick or treatin...or when they look at my jingle dress and say jingle bells...or say about a powwow hey you mean you hey ya ya ya ya all of that makes me feel like a bull in a china shop!!! GRRRR...yeah I suppose you all are right you all have posted very funny, insightful, and good things a look on the brighter side if you will. I don't know why Regalia bothers me much...guess I will just have to build a bridge and get over it...:) Thanks

out_snaggin · 06-30-2004, 09:57 AM

:Eyebrows Costumes and jingle bells :NoNo
My 3 year old niece calls it her "Hey ya dress" because she listens to "Hey ya" Music and wants to go to "Hey ya" and dance. She is starting to call it a pow wow, but it's so cute when she asks, "Auntie, we go to Hey ya this weekend?"

**Azhe'ni** · 06-30-2004, 10:11 AM

Jingle Bells LOL! Ahh hey ya dress. Blackbear I also use the word Traditional clothes when a non native ask what I call them.

ojibwaywmn · 06-30-2004, 10:40 AM

I usually use the term "outfit" more than "regalia". But like everyone else, "costume" just burns my biscuits. :5:

NDNGurl92782 · 06-30-2004, 11:03 AM

I myself prefer the term outfit or dress. From my understanding , well from what I have heard, regalia meant a suit of honor! And I don't see anything wrong with my outfit being called a suit of honor!

shookshooklaquay · 06-30-2004, 12:58 PM

Hey Ya dress lmao...that's so cute...its funny to hear what a child will say about their clothes...and what they call a powwow...that is tooo sweet. Yeah I mean I feel great in my dance clothes and when so much work is put in to it...and the meaning behind it etc...it is like a suit of honor...I would rather say suit of honor than regalia. I just would love to know who started that on the circuit atleast that it spread like wildfire..because years ago I never heard it until just the past maybe 5 years or so I have been hearing it on the circuit.

bwhite · 06-30-2004, 02:48 PM

There has been a thread on this in the past. There may be some good information there. Just check the archives.

06-29-2004, 04:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
shookshooklaquay Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Park Posts: 75	Using the Word REGALIA nothing drives me more crazy than to hear the word regalia used... I hear a lot of complaining about "white people" how they look how they dance etc...well I hear the word regalia used by almost everyone what happened to good ol dance clothes...regalia I am not sure of its origin but it was definately white people it appears in the catholic dictionary meaning royalty or crown jewels, something of kings and emperors, etc... it also means fine or decorative clothing and I am sure it has a lot more meanings I think I even read something about a cigar... I just had to get that out there and to find where it originated on the circuit what everyone else thinks about the word...and just proves how fast a trend starts and spreads like wild fire...thats all I have to say I am sorry if I offended anyone everyone is definately free to offer the comments, opinions, smart remarks whatever...thanks :)

06-29-2004, 04:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Roobz jingle jangle mornin' Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: åt home Posts: 1,028	. Last edited by Roobz; 08-28-2007 at 04:44 AM.

06-29-2004, 05:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mato Winyan Gangster of Love Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,500 Blog Entries: 4	I call em whatever comes to mind.. never costume that's the big a Tonto NoNo:NoNo...:rofl2:... don't really get hung up on it. Too many important things going on for that. Most of the ones that I see get riled up over the use of a term has been white people.. dang.. so many rules.... so little time! __________________ "We see it as a desecration not only of a mountain but of our way of life. This is a genocidal issue to us. If they kill this mountain, they kill our way of life." ~Debra White Plume

06-29-2004, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,597	I agree with Ruby2 and Numunu. I use the word regalia when I describe my dance outfit to non Indians because they can understand the value of my outfit through the description "regalia." I think the word regalia came into use to cancel out the word costume. On the flip-side . . . I have actually heard many older fancy dancers call their dance outfits "costumes" or "rigs." But in this age of political awareness, even Indians have conformed. __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe Last edited by WhoMe; 06-29-2004 at 06:15 PM.

06-30-2004, 12:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
SeaHawk Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: where the earth meets the sky next to the creek Posts: 142	Hey, I use outfit(s) most of the time. Regalia could be a $5.00 word for outfit. I never use costume because clowns wear costumes and I am not a clown. Most white people get upset when corrected. __________________ "I am not a superhero; just one of the few working hard and long for the survival of my PEOPLE."

06-29-2004, 05:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Azhe'ni Shuut uup..are ya serious Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,338	I think sometimes, I wonder what that means. I use it all the time. Or dance outfit. But if your not gonna use it cause it's a white man word, so is the word dance clothes. There both in English. But now I wonder how to say it in my language? Hmm. I'm gonna ask and maybe start using that instead of the two words above.

06-30-2004, 09:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
shookshooklaquay Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Park Posts: 75	Costumes I totally agree with the whole costumes things...it drives me crazy when I hear people say wow look at your beautiful costume and I usually say I aint trick or treatin...or when they look at my jingle dress and say jingle bells...or say about a powwow hey you mean you hey ya ya ya ya all of that makes me feel like a bull in a china shop!!! GRRRR...yeah I suppose you all are right you all have posted very funny, insightful, and good things a look on the brighter side if you will. I don't know why Regalia bothers me much...guess I will just have to build a bridge and get over it...:) Thanks

06-30-2004, 09:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
out_snaggin 49 Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 84	:Eyebrows Costumes and jingle bells :NoNo My 3 year old niece calls it her "Hey ya dress" because she listens to "Hey ya" Music and wants to go to "Hey ya" and dance. She is starting to call it a pow wow, but it's so cute when she asks, "Auntie, we go to Hey ya this weekend?"

06-30-2004, 10:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
Azhe'ni Shuut uup..are ya serious Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,338	Jingle Bells LOL! Ahh hey ya dress. Blackbear I also use the word Traditional clothes when a non native ask what I call them.

06-30-2004, 10:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
ojibwaywmn Swan Lake Ojibway Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Neechie Capital of Canada Posts: 555	I usually use the term "outfit" more than "regalia". But like everyone else, "costume" just burns my biscuits. :5: __________________

06-30-2004, 11:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
NDNGurl92782 Junior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NC Posts: 117	I myself prefer the term outfit or dress. From my understanding , well from what I have heard, regalia meant a suit of honor! And I don't see anything wrong with my outfit being called a suit of honor!

06-30-2004, 12:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
shookshooklaquay Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Park Posts: 75	ha ha ha ha Hey Ya dress lmao...that's so cute...its funny to hear what a child will say about their clothes...and what they call a powwow...that is tooo sweet. Yeah I mean I feel great in my dance clothes and when so much work is put in to it...and the meaning behind it etc...it is like a suit of honor...I would rather say suit of honor than regalia. I just would love to know who started that on the circuit atleast that it spread like wildfire..because years ago I never heard it until just the past maybe 5 years or so I have been hearing it on the circuit.

06-30-2004, 02:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
bwhite Teen Dancer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: wilmington, nc, usa Posts: 300	There has been a thread on this in the past. There may be some good information there. Just check the archives. __________________ If you are what you eat.... I'm fast, cheap and easy.