Pre-Schemitzun

Kiiwedinong · 06-06-2001, 09:29 PM

Ok people who are you early choices to be the top five winners at Schemitzun in the NOrthern Contemporary, Northern Original, Southern, and overall races?

powwow_playa · 06-07-2001, 01:28 AM

Southern Original
1-Cozad 1-Battle River
2-Youngbird 2-High Noon
3-Whitetail 3-Red Bull
4-Southern Boys 4-Whitetail
5-Cedartree 5-Haystack

Contemp Overall
1-Northern Cree 1-Northern Cree
2-Blackstone 2-Battle River
3-The Boyz 3-High Noon
4-Blacklodge 4-Blackstone
5-Eyabay 5-Youngbird

windchases · 06-07-2001, 02:22 AM

For Southern......Yellowhammer

Ontario Ojibway · 06-07-2001, 07:51 AM

This year is unique as the drum contest is open to all singing groups. I think that there will be some new groups step up and be noticed since this will be the first time Schemitzun is allowing all groups to participate in the singing contest. It should be a great contest this year, new groups, new songs and new categories!

06-07-2001, 11:10 AM

Here's my stab at it assuming all these guys show up :)

Southern:
1st- Cozad
2nd- Youngbird
3rd- Bad Medicine
4th- White Tail
5th- Southern Thunder

Northern Contemporary
1st- Blackstone
2nd- Bear Creek
3rd- Northern Cree
4th- Black Lodge
5th- Tha Tribe

Northern Original
1st- Battle River
2nd- High Noon
3rd- Red Bull
4th- Mandaree
5th- Haystack

**Kiwehnzii** · 06-07-2001, 11:35 AM

Like BPlenty sez. "assuming they show up" Is there a limit on how many drums can enter? There's a lot of groups who don't travel too much that many people haven't heard. They just might travel to this one cuz of all the hoopla about Ska-mitz. Trying to pre-determine a winner is pretty hard.

Whaddif 200 groups decide to go? Judge them on 1 song 2-times thru? This is gonna be a madhouse I betcha.

Anybodies guess on how many groups are in U.S. and Canada?

< This is what the drum judges will look like if they all show up.

Smokin' Ace · 06-07-2001, 11:55 AM

Hey DWA - more like

Hehe - I know that Kau-ta-noh, Jr's will be there!!!

SouthernDrumSinger · 06-08-2001, 06:53 PM

It will be crazy up there with an open drum contest but here is my prediction.

Southern: Cozad
Youngbird
Bad Medicine
Yellowhammer
Southern Thunder

Northern Contemporary: Nothern Cree
Bear Creek
Whitefish Jrs
Maskwaki Nation

Northern Original: Red Bull
Mandaree

don't know many orig. groups.

a shout goes to a home drum from around my neck of the woods. Kau-ta-Noh Jrs. Yall represent up there and show everybody what's up. My thoughts and prayers are gonna be with you.

SDS

coloda · 06-09-2001, 11:11 PM

hey whats up new member here checking it out. My guess goes to
1.Bear Creek (i mean didn't they take gatherings)
2.Tha tribe
3.Northern cree
4.Blackstone
5.Someone who doesent' even deserve it.

And isn't this whole rating a little premature, i mean come on guys obsessive much

Smokin' Ace · 06-10-2001, 12:18 AM

Thanks, man. We all appreciate everyone's thoughts and prayers! No doubt! :D

Big Chocolate Thunder · 06-10-2001, 01:24 AM

I think it will be interesting this year with the open drum setup, but isn't interesting good??
Here is my prediction for N. Contemp.:
1.Bear Creek
2.Black Stone
3.The Boyz
4.Whitefish Jrs.
5.Northern Cree

I do agree with 4 Schizzal on the point about G.O.N..
....and with the open drum some of the long standing drums just MIGHT get some new competition.

But that is what these old dawgs need to stay on their toes!!!!!

LAYDER!!!!!!!

the guy · 06-11-2001, 05:27 PM

Hey come on now people. Sure Bear Creek sounds good, and they have that drum group image these days, but honestly at Gatherings, they sang good songs, sounded quality, but, what's with their beat? They sound like they're gonna pick it up, then it stays the same tempo. They sound good, but their beat could use some work.

but hey I'm the new guy here on the block, so maybe my comment won't count yet.

*TG*

clouding over · 06-11-2001, 07:12 PM

You know it is possible to pickup the beat without picking up the tempo! As a matter of fact, it takes alot of skill to do that sort of pickup.
Anyways, I will try to predict the future for only the original and contemporary categories; ORIGINAL
1st: Battle River
2nd: High Noon
3rd: Mandaree
4th: Snake Island
5th: Eagle Flight
6th: Mountain Soul
7th: White Tail
8th: Red Bull
CONTEMPORARY
1st: Northern Cree
2nd: Bearcreek
3rd: Blackstone
4th: Blacklodge
5th: Eyabay
6th: EyaHey Nakoda
7th: Whitefish Bay
8th: The Boyz
If they all show up but I doubt it as there is a huge powwow up in Manitoba starting on the 27th and alot of these drums are invited there.

Big Chocolate Thunder · 06-12-2001, 10:18 PM

Well........it seems that the contenders for the top N.Cont. spot seems to be between Blackstone, Bear Creek, and Northern Cree. Although there aren't too many postings on this topic, that seems to be the forming trend. All three drums sound really tough and I do hope these fellas say "to hell with Manitoba" and show up at
Skee-mitt-sin. That would make an interesting show wouldn't it?
---------------------------------------------
~~~~~~TONIGHT~~~~~~
Bear Creek vs. Northern Cree vs. Blackstone
---------------------------------------------

I'm definitely gonna have to get the t-shirt.

May the best drum win.

Kiiwedinong · 06-18-2001, 11:00 PM

Aint this fun people? I mean....who wants to sit around and wait to see who wins. Its always fun to pick early. Since I started this whole thing, I think I have a duty to write down who I think who'll win. So here they are.
Northern Original
1. Battle River
2. High Noon
3. Mountain Soul
4. Midnight Express
5. Smokey Town

Northern Contemporary
1. Blackstone
2. Northern Cree
3. Eyabay
4. Bear Creek
5. BlackLodge

Southern
1. White Tail
2. Young Bird
3. Cozad
4. Zotigh
5. Cedar Tree

Overall
1. Blackstone
2. Battle River
3. Northern Cree
4. White Tail
5. Eyabay

Mind you if these drums ONLY show up!

Tell me more about that Winnipeg pow wow that same weekend. :)

ScarFace · 06-19-2001, 02:01 PM

I think its hard to make prediction as to who will even show up for the powwow(schemitzun2001). It can be an expensive trip to make, especially since your not guarenteed to place. All I can add is that if there are some new drums that show up They'd better be able to impress the judges. My prediction is everyone that places are going to be drums who won there before. And this year more drums will show up so no IDIOTS OR JERKS CAN SAY "THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO BEAT, STATING WHOMEVER WINS 1ST PLACE DOESN'T DESERVE IT! So anyway Goodluck to all the groups, sing hard and remember its only a contest?!. P.S. I think everyone will show up, because if your group wins the open, overall, handdrum/49, and triple crown thats $50,000........NICE!

06-06-2001, 09:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kiiwedinong Head Singing Judge Join Date: May 2001 Location: LOTW Posts: 422	Pre-Schemitzun Ok people who are you early choices to be the top five winners at Schemitzun in the NOrthern Contemporary, Northern Original, Southern, and overall races?

06-07-2001, 11:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
Smokin' Ace Arena Director Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: United States Posts: 4,098	Hey DWA - more like Hehe - I know that Kau-ta-noh, Jr's will be there!!! __________________ Everything is gonna be alright! Be blessed - got love??? This b me..... www.myspace.com/akayo

06-08-2001, 06:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
SouthernDrumSinger Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rob Co. Posts: 93	It will be crazy up there with an open drum contest but here is my prediction. Southern: Cozad Youngbird Bad Medicine Yellowhammer Southern Thunder Northern Contemporary: Nothern Cree Bear Creek Whitefish Jrs Maskwaki Nation Northern Original: Red Bull Mandaree don't know many orig. groups. a shout goes to a home drum from around my neck of the woods. Kau-ta-Noh Jrs. Yall represent up there and show everybody what's up. My thoughts and prayers are gonna be with you. SDS __________________ SouthernDrumSinger

06-10-2001, 12:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Smokin' Ace Arena Director Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: United States Posts: 4,098	Thanks, man. We all appreciate everyone's thoughts and prayers! No doubt! :D __________________ Everything is gonna be alright! Be blessed - got love??? This b me..... www.myspace.com/akayo

06-18-2001, 11:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kiiwedinong Head Singing Judge Join Date: May 2001 Location: LOTW Posts: 422	Aint this fun people? I mean....who wants to sit around and wait to see who wins. Its always fun to pick early. Since I started this whole thing, I think I have a duty to write down who I think who'll win. So here they are. Northern Original 1. Battle River 2. High Noon 3. Mountain Soul 4. Midnight Express 5. Smokey Town Northern Contemporary 1. Blackstone 2. Northern Cree 3. Eyabay 4. Bear Creek 5. BlackLodge Southern 1. White Tail 2. Young Bird 3. Cozad 4. Zotigh 5. Cedar Tree Overall 1. Blackstone 2. Battle River 3. Northern Cree 4. White Tail 5. Eyabay Mind you if these drums ONLY show up! Tell me more about that Winnipeg pow wow that same weekend. :) Last edited by Kiiwedinong; 11-21-2006 at 01:21 PM.

06-07-2001, 01:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
powwow_playa Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 11	Southern Original 1-Cozad 1-Battle River 2-Youngbird 2-High Noon 3-Whitetail 3-Red Bull 4-Southern Boys 4-Whitetail 5-Cedartree 5-Haystack Contemp Overall 1-Northern Cree 1-Northern Cree 2-Blackstone 2-Battle River 3-The Boyz 3-High Noon 4-Blacklodge 4-Blackstone 5-Eyabay 5-Youngbird

06-07-2001, 02:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
windchases Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 7	For Southern......Yellowhammer

06-07-2001, 07:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ontario Ojibway Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 13	This year is unique as the drum contest is open to all singing groups. I think that there will be some new groups step up and be noticed since this will be the first time Schemitzun is allowing all groups to participate in the singing contest. It should be a great contest this year, new groups, new songs and new categories!

06-07-2001, 11:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
BPlenty Guest Posts: n/a	Here's my stab at it assuming all these guys show up :) Southern: 1st- Cozad 2nd- Youngbird 3rd- Bad Medicine 4th- White Tail 5th- Southern Thunder Northern Contemporary 1st- Blackstone 2nd- Bear Creek 3rd- Northern Cree 4th- Black Lodge 5th- Tha Tribe Northern Original 1st- Battle River 2nd- High Noon 3rd- Red Bull 4th- Mandaree 5th- Haystack

06-07-2001, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,868	Like BPlenty sez. "assuming they show up" Is there a limit on how many drums can enter? There's a lot of groups who don't travel too much that many people haven't heard. They just might travel to this one cuz of all the hoopla about Ska-mitz. Trying to pre-determine a winner is pretty hard. Whaddif 200 groups decide to go? Judge them on 1 song 2-times thru? This is gonna be a madhouse I betcha. Anybodies guess on how many groups are in U.S. and Canada? < This is what the drum judges will look like if they all show up.

06-09-2001, 11:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
coloda Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ontario Posts: 1	hey whats up new member here checking it out. My guess goes to 1.Bear Creek (i mean didn't they take gatherings) 2.Tha tribe 3.Northern cree 4.Blackstone 5.Someone who doesent' even deserve it. And isn't this whole rating a little premature, i mean come on guys obsessive much

06-10-2001, 01:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Big Chocolate Thunder Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ojibwe Territory Posts: 44	I think it will be interesting this year with the open drum setup, but isn't interesting good?? Here is my prediction for N. Contemp.: 1.Bear Creek 2.Black Stone 3.The Boyz 4.Whitefish Jrs. 5.Northern Cree I do agree with 4 Schizzal on the point about G.O.N.. ....and with the open drum some of the long standing drums just MIGHT get some new competition. But that is what these old dawgs need to stay on their toes!!!!! LAYDER!!!!!!!

06-11-2001, 05:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
the guy Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 3	Hey come on now people. Sure Bear Creek sounds good, and they have that drum group image these days, but honestly at Gatherings, they sang good songs, sounded quality, but, what's with their beat? They sound like they're gonna pick it up, then it stays the same tempo. They sound good, but their beat could use some work. but hey I'm the new guy here on the block, so maybe my comment won't count yet. TG

06-11-2001, 07:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
clouding over Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: great lakes Posts: 3	You know it is possible to pickup the beat without picking up the tempo! As a matter of fact, it takes alot of skill to do that sort of pickup. Anyways, I will try to predict the future for only the original and contemporary categories; ORIGINAL 1st: Battle River 2nd: High Noon 3rd: Mandaree 4th: Snake Island 5th: Eagle Flight 6th: Mountain Soul 7th: White Tail 8th: Red Bull CONTEMPORARY 1st: Northern Cree 2nd: Bearcreek 3rd: Blackstone 4th: Blacklodge 5th: Eyabay 6th: EyaHey Nakoda 7th: Whitefish Bay 8th: The Boyz If they all show up but I doubt it as there is a huge powwow up in Manitoba starting on the 27th and alot of these drums are invited there.

06-12-2001, 10:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Big Chocolate Thunder Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ojibwe Territory Posts: 44	Well........it seems that the contenders for the top N.Cont. spot seems to be between Blackstone, Bear Creek, and Northern Cree. Although there aren't too many postings on this topic, that seems to be the forming trend. All three drums sound really tough and I do hope these fellas say "to hell with Manitoba" and show up at Skee-mitt-sin. That would make an interesting show wouldn't it? --------------------------------------------- ~~~~~~TONIGHT~~~~~~ Bear Creek vs. Northern Cree vs. Blackstone --------------------------------------------- I'm definitely gonna have to get the t-shirt. May the best drum win.

06-19-2001, 02:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
ScarFace gct Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: cmart Posts: 50	I think its hard to make prediction as to who will even show up for the powwow(schemitzun2001). It can be an expensive trip to make, especially since your not guarenteed to place. All I can add is that if there are some new drums that show up They'd better be able to impress the judges. My prediction is everyone that places are going to be drums who won there before. And this year more drums will show up so no IDIOTS OR JERKS CAN SAY "THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO BEAT, STATING WHOMEVER WINS 1ST PLACE DOESN'T DESERVE IT! So anyway Goodluck to all the groups, sing hard and remember its only a contest?!. P.S. I think everyone will show up, because if your group wins the open, overall, handdrum/49, and triple crown thats $50,000........NICE!