Who/what is a Vet

fnordhorn · 06-09-2006, 12:22 AM

Question would you say this person is a vet?

Person in question started basic training.
Was discharged from the military when in basic for medical
reason for somthing that happen in basic training.

Is this person cosidered a Vet.

The person says there not.
I say there are.

I also would like this person to stand beside me durnng
Grand Entry and anything dances for vet's.

The person in question is my sister.

CHEROSAGE · 06-09-2006, 01:07 AM

I think that the only way to be considered a "Vet" is to at least complete and Graduate from Basic Training. I don't think that this young lady can be eligable for VA status from the US Govn't.

You can still let her dance with you if you wish but consider her wishes and thoughts on this matter.

fnordhorn · 06-09-2006, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEROSAGE

I think that the only way to be considered a "Vet" is to at least complete and Graduate from Basic Training. I don't think that this young lady can be eligable for VA status from the US Govn't.

You can still let her dance with you if you wish but consider her wishes and thoughts on this matter.

Every year or so the VA has her come in to get a check up on the injury that she got in basic training. So she has VA medical from the government.

I guess my mind is kind of "FOGed" on this with her s she is my SISTER. Was trying to find out if other would have problems where she to enter with the "Vets". I mean she did start basic and no fault of her that she did not finish as she was injury in basic.

I guess mybe because it my sister at least one time I like to hear the M.C. say somthing like.

Sgt Nordhorn US Army. PVT Trombley US Army Brother and Sisters.

As I say being my sister my mind is FOGed hear.

**Wojapi4Me** · 06-09-2006, 08:52 AM

What is the Abenaki Nation of Mississiquoi?

**Migiziwomen** · 06-09-2006, 01:14 PM

okay i really have less of an idea then i thought, i thought that you had to be in a war to be a vet, or atleast be enlisted for a certain amount of time. this is a good question.

Privateer6 · 06-09-2006, 01:40 PM

If she got discharged for medical reasons, AND is getting VA assistance, I say yes she is a vet and would have no problem. If she got out b/c of bad character, like that idiot who claimed to be a ranger and lied about atrocities, then no.

Again from what I hear, she is a vet. But as mentioned previously follow her wishes.

Cheshire Cat · 06-09-2006, 04:10 PM

BEing from a military family..in my opinion...a person was considered a VET if they finished their two years of military duty or were wounded in battle. Being hurt in training did not make you a VET. Some people went over right after finishing basic training of 6 to 8 weeks and were wounded in the battle field or battle conditions such as support. That is considered a Vet. I served a very short time with the Navy...but do not consider myself a Vet. Was not able to finish the first year not even two as an Officer due to medical problems.

fnordhorn · 06-09-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singerdad

What is the Abenaki Nation of Mississiquoi?

Should read: Abenaki Nation, St Francis/Sokoki Band or some times called Mississquoi Band.

http://www.abenakination.org/front.html

BTW: May 3 2006, Vermont Legislators pass Bill S.117 Recognizing the Abenaki People and Governor Douglas signs it into law.

CHEROSAGE · 06-16-2006, 02:26 AM

The VA is liable for her health care or at least for her injury and resulting care. This would be the same as any other employer Workmans Comp claim. Your sister was an employee of the US Govn't at the time of her injury. Even though she didn't complete the training. As I understand everyone must at least complete/graduate Basic Training of which ever branch they enlisted. I would go so far as to say that they should at least graduate (AIT, in the Army) not sure of other branches designation. At times of war AIT's(specialized training) are not always a priority for the Troops to go where ever assigned.

**Joe's Dad** · 06-16-2006, 02:53 AM

Google 'What is a military veteran?' and see what it comes up with.

natureluvr · 06-28-2006, 12:56 PM

I am a VA workstudy and work with the Texas Veteran's commission which is a partner of the Texas Workforce Commission. For anyone to qualify for our services they must be a veteran and the definition is someone who has served at least 180 days active duty consecutively. They have to provide us with a copy of their DD214 which shows length of service among other things. Hope this helps!

WhoMe · 06-30-2006, 11:55 AM

I have witnessed the exchange of tobacco to a Red Feather Society Veteran to challenge the integrity of individuals who claim to be veterans, who are not.

Like the dominant society, there are instances of Indian nonVeterans claiming to be veterans.

fnordhorn · 06-30-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoMe

I have witnessed the exchange of tobacco to a Red Feather Society Veteran to challenge the integrity of individuals who claim to be veterans, who are not.

Like the dominant society, there are instances of Indian nonVeterans claiming to be veterans.

One reason I carry a copy of one of one of my DD-214 in my pocket of my Greens when I wear them.

badwarrior03 · 07-01-2006, 10:12 AM

Sounds lke she made a choice to serve in the military service. A choice only 1 out of 75 women do, regardless she completed basic or not, she was honest to her commitment in joining the military. Some people regardless of gender get out for medical reasons, but their mind was made up when signing the contract. To me this young lady was willing to experience something her family has, to be a veteran. I am a 4th generation combat veteran (still serving in the Army 10 years now), i rarely see native people in the military. when i do it is like seen my brother and sisters. In my opinion, she would be considered a vet, for her commitment.

06-09-2006, 12:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
fnordhorn Veteran SGT Nordhorn Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 58	Who/what is a Vet Question would you say this person is a vet? Person in question started basic training. Was discharged from the military when in basic for medical reason for somthing that happen in basic training. Is this person cosidered a Vet. The person says there not. I say there are. I also would like this person to stand beside me durnng Grand Entry and anything dances for vet's. The person in question is my sister.

06-09-2006, 01:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,342	I think that the only way to be considered a "Vet" is to at least complete and Graduate from Basic Training. I don't think that this young lady can be eligable for VA status from the US Govn't. You can still let her dance with you if you wish but consider her wishes and thoughts on this matter. __________________ BOB

06-09-2006, 08:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Wojapi4Me Kili! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tha Rez Posts: 1,515	What is the Abenaki Nation of Mississiquoi? __________________ If pro is the opposite of con, then wouldn't progress be the opposite of...lol

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Migiziwomen PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: May 2004 Location: IN THE HEARTS OF MANY Posts: 2,357	okay i really have less of an idea then i thought, i thought that you had to be in a war to be a vet, or atleast be enlisted for a certain amount of time. this is a good question. __________________ *AYWAWAG ANISHINABEG IZH AAYAN WII WII DOOK AAGOZIYAN*

06-09-2006, 01:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Privateer6 Like my new toy? Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cylon occupied North Carolina Posts: 775	If she got discharged for medical reasons, AND is getting VA assistance, I say yes she is a vet and would have no problem. If she got out b/c of bad character, like that idiot who claimed to be a ranger and lied about atrocities, then no. Again from what I hear, she is a vet. But as mentioned previously follow her wishes. Last edited by GJJudd; 06-09-2006 at 01:44 PM.

06-09-2006, 04:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cheshire Cat Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 141	BEing from a military family..in my opinion...a person was considered a VET if they finished their two years of military duty or were wounded in battle. Being hurt in training did not make you a VET. Some people went over right after finishing basic training of 6 to 8 weeks and were wounded in the battle field or battle conditions such as support. That is considered a Vet. I served a very short time with the Navy...but do not consider myself a Vet. Was not able to finish the first year not even two as an Officer due to medical problems.

06-16-2006, 02:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,342	The VA is liable for her health care or at least for her injury and resulting care. This would be the same as any other employer Workmans Comp claim. Your sister was an employee of the US Govn't at the time of her injury. Even though she didn't complete the training. As I understand everyone must at least complete/graduate Basic Training of which ever branch they enlisted. I would go so far as to say that they should at least graduate (AIT, in the Army) not sure of other branches designation. At times of war AIT's(specialized training) are not always a priority for the Troops to go where ever assigned. __________________ BOB

06-16-2006, 02:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
Joe's Dad Shhh...I'm watching TV Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 8,658	Google 'What is a military veteran?' and see what it comes up with. __________________ Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat?

06-28-2006, 12:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
natureluvr Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 385	I am a VA workstudy and work with the Texas Veteran's commission which is a partner of the Texas Workforce Commission. For anyone to qualify for our services they must be a veteran and the definition is someone who has served at least 180 days active duty consecutively. They have to provide us with a copy of their DD214 which shows length of service among other things. Hope this helps! __________________

06-30-2006, 11:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,560	I have witnessed the exchange of tobacco to a Red Feather Society Veteran to challenge the integrity of individuals who claim to be veterans, who are not. Like the dominant society, there are instances of Indian nonVeterans claiming to be veterans. __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe

07-01-2006, 10:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
badwarrior03 Lakota Akicita Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: KS points with lips but from obberdar Posts: 40	commitment Sounds lke she made a choice to serve in the military service. A choice only 1 out of 75 women do, regardless she completed basic or not, she was honest to her commitment in joining the military. Some people regardless of gender get out for medical reasons, but their mind was made up when signing the contract. To me this young lady was willing to experience something her family has, to be a veteran. I am a 4th generation combat veteran (still serving in the Army 10 years now), i rarely see native people in the military. when i do it is like seen my brother and sisters. In my opinion, she would be considered a vet, for her commitment.