roach ceramonie question plz help

cherokee_grassdance9 · 09-11-2004, 02:50 PM

hi you all ive been grassdancing all my life and im 14 now im just now able to get the money to get roach made for me and im ganna use my bro's roach tell mine is done but one thing i dont no for sure about is can peeps that havnt been roached roach me cuz if so i want my uncle that my family has adopted to roach me please reply asap hoka.

Tom Iron Eagle · 09-13-2004, 09:50 AM

Wow! Somebody who knows that one earns the right to wear a Hair Roach Headdress. I hand it to you for knowing about a very, very old tradition. Kudos to you and your Elders and the outstanding teaching you have received.

There are many postings on this website about several arguing over this and that being Ceremonial or that one should not wear this or not wear that. But many of these posters have forgoten that depending on the Tribe and Time a great deal of Clothing/Dress Items were Ceremonial and for many of these items one needed to earn the right to wear it.

Practically every Headdress falls into this situation. One must remember that most Head Gear in Tribes all across Native America had to be earned. This included the Hair Roach. But with time and fashion this almost "ancient" traditon has almost been lost.

I advise you to seek help from the Elders that have already taught you well! And Congradulations!

cherokee_grassdance9 · 09-13-2004, 07:49 PM

thank you

CHEROSAGE · 09-15-2004, 12:27 AM

siyo, I was wondering where you live. My family now lives in MO. give me a PM and we can talk about this.

cherokee_grassdance9 · 09-16-2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEROSAGE

siyo, I was wondering where you live. My family now lives in MO. give me a PM and we can talk about this.

hi cherosage i thought bout calling you to ask the question but i wanted to check on here im jer....

CHEROSAGE · 09-21-2004, 12:32 AM

Thanks for thinking of me,and hope my PM was helpful.

I would like for everyone else to help this young man by giving him your thoughts and experience.

Native_Island_Poet · 10-09-2004, 01:31 AM

I agree with the previous posts in the fact that you have been taught well, in following the OLD WAYS ! Carrying on traditions especially those regarding achieving honor and the rewards there-in , are lost but to a few who are fortunate enought to have elders who are willing to pass on the time honoured traditions so that you may carry them on to your children!

It is definitely an achieved honour to wear the Roach headress, and you best source of information is the elders that taught you this! Most people do not get into details on the net beacuse of the sensitivity of sacred ceremonies!

CONGRATULATIONS ! When it is done, you will wear the Roach Proudly !

cherokee_grassdance9 · 10-17-2004, 08:11 PM

thank you all

09-11-2004, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
cherokee_grassdance9 cherokee_grassdance9 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: missourie Posts: 242	roach ceramonie question plz help hi you all ive been grassdancing all my life and im 14 now im just now able to get the money to get roach made for me and im ganna use my bro's roach tell mine is done but one thing i dont no for sure about is can peeps that havnt been roached roach me cuz if so i want my uncle that my family has adopted to roach me please reply asap hoka.

09-13-2004, 09:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tom Iron Eagle Teen Dancer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 370	Outstanding! Wow! Somebody who knows that one earns the right to wear a Hair Roach Headdress. I hand it to you for knowing about a very, very old tradition. Kudos to you and your Elders and the outstanding teaching you have received. There are many postings on this website about several arguing over this and that being Ceremonial or that one should not wear this or not wear that. But many of these posters have forgoten that depending on the Tribe and Time a great deal of Clothing/Dress Items were Ceremonial and for many of these items one needed to earn the right to wear it. Practically every Headdress falls into this situation. One must remember that most Head Gear in Tribes all across Native America had to be earned. This included the Hair Roach. But with time and fashion this almost "ancient" traditon has almost been lost. I advise you to seek help from the Elders that have already taught you well! And Congradulations!

09-15-2004, 12:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,316	siyo, I was wondering where you live. My family now lives in MO. give me a PM and we can talk about this. __________________ BOB

09-21-2004, 12:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,316	Thanks for thinking of me,and hope my PM was helpful. I would like for everyone else to help this young man by giving him your thoughts and experience. __________________ BOB

10-09-2004, 01:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Native_Island_Poet Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Gulf Coast Of Texas Posts: 14	roach ceremony I agree with the previous posts in the fact that you have been taught well, in following the OLD WAYS ! Carrying on traditions especially those regarding achieving honor and the rewards there-in , are lost but to a few who are fortunate enought to have elders who are willing to pass on the time honoured traditions so that you may carry them on to your children! It is definitely an achieved honour to wear the Roach headress, and you best source of information is the elders that taught you this! Most people do not get into details on the net beacuse of the sensitivity of sacred ceremonies! CONGRATULATIONS ! When it is done, you will wear the Roach Proudly ! __________________ Be One With All, As Your Heart Knows the Trueness, of the Blood Coarsing through your Veins!

09-13-2004, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
cherokee_grassdance9 cherokee_grassdance9 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: missourie Posts: 242	thank you

10-17-2004, 08:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
cherokee_grassdance9 cherokee_grassdance9 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: missourie Posts: 242	thank you all

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