Elder's Only -- Seating

peekaboo · 09-02-2003, 07:22 PM

DOYOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE A SECTION OF THE ARENA BLOCKED OFF AND MARKED "ELDER'S ONLY" THAT IT SHOULD BE FOR NATIVE ELDER'S ONLY?

I WAS OUT A POW WOW AND THIS CROW WOMAN I WOULD SAY SHE WAS ABOUT MID 40'S REALLY PUT UP A LOUD STINK BECAUSE THIS WHITE ELDER COUPLE HAD SAT DOWN IN THAT SECTION.

THERE WERE MORE THAN PLENTY OF SEATS FOR OTHER'S AND THIS WHITE COUPLE WAS I WOULD SAY AT LEAST IN THEIR 70'S.

DO YOU CARE WHO SIT'S IN ELDER ONLY SEATING? I SAY AN ELDER IS AN ELDER AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME RESPECT NO MATTER WHAT RACE.

ped xing · 09-02-2003, 07:26 PM

Yes, an elder is an elder.;)

WolfTears · 09-02-2003, 07:29 PM

I have to agree , they earned the right of respect .. an as long as they respect our elders sitting there no problemmmmmmm!!!!!

peekaboo · 09-02-2003, 07:48 PM

YES MEN NIE TURTLES THEY WERE VERY RESPECTFUL. I WATCHED THEM ONLY BECAUSE THE NATIVE WOMAN REALLY MADE ME THINK "NOT ALL US NDN'S THINK LIKE HER" WHAT A WHINEY SELFISH LADY SHE WAS.

THE WHITE ELDER COUPLE SAT THERE FOR ONLY ABOUT AN HOUR EATING FRY BREAD AND THEY WERE REALLY ENJOYING IT AS I SAW THE HUSBAND KEEP TEARING PIECES OFF FOR HIS WIFE AND SAYING "THIS IS VERY GOOD ISN'T IT HONEY?"

IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THEM ENJOYING THE POW WOW.

ANYWAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR REPLYING.

WolfTears · 09-02-2003, 09:08 PM

gotta love dat fry bread.
Well thats good . If we do not show respect to the elders of all walks how can we teach our children an grand children to honor them no matter what walk they come from.

Feathers · 09-02-2003, 09:58 PM

I was at the Paris Landing TN Pow Wow and there was an Elders Only section there up under a tree with plenty of shade and good view of the circle. I thought it was very nice. There were a couple of white Elders sitting in there along with some of the Native Elders they wer chatting and having a good time, there was more than enough seating yet only a few there. I heard no one complain and thought it was just the thing! It was close to the bathrooms and free water and not that far from the food boothes either!

A couple of different people asked me about it, but I couldnt answer their questions I had never seen one before. But as I said it is a nice idea, especially with so many visitors that come and don't have their own chairs or shade(like awnings I've seen).

I think if I had heard this lady whining about it I would have tried to take her off to the side to give her a quick lesson in what respect really means. There are Elders regardless who and what color they are, then there are people who are simply older certainly not wiser.

Mato Winyan · 09-02-2003, 10:13 PM

I agree no difference especially if it is an inter tribal powwow.

Singing Eagle · 09-03-2003, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by MenNie Turtles
gotta love dat fry bread.
Well thats good . If we do not show respect to the elders of all walks how can we teach our children an grand children to honor them no matter what walk they come from.

well said!:clapping:

ron red eagle · 09-03-2003, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peekaboo
DOYOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE A SECTION OF THE ARENA BLOCKED OFF AND MARKED "ELDER'S ONLY" THAT IT SHOULD BE FOR NATIVE ELDER'S ONLY?

I WAS OUT A POW WOW AND THIS CROW WOMAN I WOULD SAY SHE WAS ABOUT MID 40'S REALLY PUT UP A LOUD STINK BECAUSE THIS WHITE ELDER COUPLE HAD SAT DOWN IN THAT SECTION.

THERE WERE MORE THAN PLENTY OF SEATS FOR OTHER'S AND THIS WHITE COUPLE WAS I WOULD SAY AT LEAST IN THEIR 70'S.

DO YOU CARE WHO SIT'S IN ELDER ONLY SEATING? I SAY AN ELDER IS AN ELDER AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME RESPECT NO MATTER WHAT RACE.

An elder is an elder, regardless of their race or color. I cannot teach my children tolerance if I do not have it myself.

Tibiki Kinew · 09-03-2003, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peekaboo
YES MEN NIE TURTLES THEY WERE VERY RESPECTFUL. I WATCHED THEM ONLY BECAUSE THE NATIVE WOMAN REALLY MADE ME THINK "NOT ALL US NDN'S THINK LIKE HER" WHAT A WHINEY SELFISH LADY SHE WAS.

THE WHITE ELDER COUPLE SAT THERE FOR ONLY ABOUT AN HOUR EATING FRY BREAD AND THEY WERE REALLY ENJOYING IT AS I SAW THE HUSBAND KEEP TEARING PIECES OFF FOR HIS WIFE AND SAYING "THIS IS VERY GOOD ISN'T IT HONEY?"

IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THEM ENJOYING THE POW WOW.

ANYWAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR REPLYING.

So here I go,,,
In the Book Daughter of Copper Woman is a very good response ..
we all have the same red blood , after we were spread to the four directions we got different skin colors but we still have the same red blood. So to the respect of Elders ,,, Way to go!~

spicysouthern · 09-03-2003, 10:57 AM

thats wrong dood. That crow lady need to take her meds dood. I been to plenty a pow-wow where they had seating for the elder only and that cool because they have hard time seeing all ready so it only kewl that they get the best seatsin the house . that messed that some people get all Palestine on others peops just so they can hear them self get mentel. but ya i say let any elders sit close they need it more any way its kewl ya its all kewl that way.

spicysouthern · 09-03-2003, 11:02 AM

ya thats kewl to if they ask for my picture .i usuly let elders take pictures of me to. ya thats kewl elders are kewl people even the growchy ones ay. its not there fault. o.k. late.

**Grits & Beans** · 09-05-2003, 08:55 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself spicy.

Wow spicy you must be good looking if people come up to you wanting to take a picture.

Awahili · 09-07-2003, 06:20 PM

Well personally being in a wheelchair and being a bit on the elderly side (be nice now) I like the idea of an elders only area! I like that very much! I'm tired of going to Pow Wows and having no where to sit (shhh never mind I take my seat with me) I can't get close enough to see what is going on due to so many young people standing around blocking the view! Or when there are stadiums such at the Trail of Tears Pow Wow in Hopkinsville KY they will block the entrance not even the Dancers can get in, let alone the Elders or anyone else, and heaven forbid you to be in a wheelchair, it's like you don't exist! Or you have to sit right there and some young bit who has no training or teaching is letting their children scream for the sake of screaming!

Please let the Sr's Elders elderly handicapped whatever you want to call us have our own space! That would be sooo nice!

Tsiniti thank you for telling me about Paris Landing! I'm not very portable but the more local Pow Wows there are then the happier I am! I'm sorry but this years TOT's stunk! The Dancers were great, but what in the world happened to the Vendors?

09-02-2003, 07:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
peekaboo Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MY RIG-ALL THE COMFORTS OF HOME & MY CONDO P.T. Posts: 159	Elder's Only -- Seating DOYOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE A SECTION OF THE ARENA BLOCKED OFF AND MARKED "ELDER'S ONLY" THAT IT SHOULD BE FOR NATIVE ELDER'S ONLY? I WAS OUT A POW WOW AND THIS CROW WOMAN I WOULD SAY SHE WAS ABOUT MID 40'S REALLY PUT UP A LOUD STINK BECAUSE THIS WHITE ELDER COUPLE HAD SAT DOWN IN THAT SECTION. THERE WERE MORE THAN PLENTY OF SEATS FOR OTHER'S AND THIS WHITE COUPLE WAS I WOULD SAY AT LEAST IN THEIR 70'S. DO YOU CARE WHO SIT'S IN ELDER ONLY SEATING? I SAY AN ELDER IS AN ELDER AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME RESPECT NO MATTER WHAT RACE. __________________ "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."

09-02-2003, 07:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
ped xing Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: May 2003 Location: On a street near you Posts: 72	Yes, an elder is an elder.;) __________________ Watch out for pedestrians!

09-02-2003, 07:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
peekaboo Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MY RIG-ALL THE COMFORTS OF HOME & MY CONDO P.T. Posts: 159	YES MEN NIE TURTLES THEY WERE VERY RESPECTFUL. I WATCHED THEM ONLY BECAUSE THE NATIVE WOMAN REALLY MADE ME THINK "NOT ALL US NDN'S THINK LIKE HER" WHAT A WHINEY SELFISH LADY SHE WAS. THE WHITE ELDER COUPLE SAT THERE FOR ONLY ABOUT AN HOUR EATING FRY BREAD AND THEY WERE REALLY ENJOYING IT AS I SAW THE HUSBAND KEEP TEARING PIECES OFF FOR HIS WIFE AND SAYING "THIS IS VERY GOOD ISN'T IT HONEY?" IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THEM ENJOYING THE POW WOW. ANYWAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR REPLYING. __________________ "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."

09-02-2003, 09:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Feathers Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indian Mound Posts: 14	I was at the Paris Landing TN Pow Wow and there was an Elders Only section there up under a tree with plenty of shade and good view of the circle. I thought it was very nice. There were a couple of white Elders sitting in there along with some of the Native Elders they wer chatting and having a good time, there was more than enough seating yet only a few there. I heard no one complain and thought it was just the thing! It was close to the bathrooms and free water and not that far from the food boothes either! A couple of different people asked me about it, but I couldnt answer their questions I had never seen one before. But as I said it is a nice idea, especially with so many visitors that come and don't have their own chairs or shade(like awnings I've seen). I think if I had heard this lady whining about it I would have tried to take her off to the side to give her a quick lesson in what respect really means. There are Elders regardless who and what color they are, then there are people who are simply older certainly not wiser. __________________ I live in Tennessee, that does not make me a wannabe, hick or hillbilly. If you think it does, then what does it say about you?

09-02-2003, 10:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mato Winyan Dancing makes you smile Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,477 Blog Entries: 4	I agree no difference especially if it is an inter tribal powwow. __________________ "We see it as a desecration not only of a mountain but of our way of life. This is a genocidal issue to us. If they kill this mountain, they kill our way of life." ~Debra White Plume

09-02-2003, 07:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
WolfTears StrongWillowsSister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nashville Tenn Posts: 804	I have to agree , they earned the right of respect .. an as long as they respect our elders sitting there no problemmmmmmm!!!!!

09-02-2003, 09:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
WolfTears StrongWillowsSister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nashville Tenn Posts: 804	gotta love dat fry bread. Well thats good . If we do not show respect to the elders of all walks how can we teach our children an grand children to honor them no matter what walk they come from.

09-03-2003, 10:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
spicysouthern Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: pow wow trail but when im real bad its county jail Posts: 335	thats wrong dood. That crow lady need to take her meds dood. I been to plenty a pow-wow where they had seating for the elder only and that cool because they have hard time seeing all ready so it only kewl that they get the best seatsin the house . that messed that some people get all Palestine on others peops just so they can hear them self get mentel. but ya i say let any elders sit close they need it more any way its kewl ya its all kewl that way. __________________ everything needs a bit more taste that's were Spicy comes in

09-03-2003, 11:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
spicysouthern Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: pow wow trail but when im real bad its county jail Posts: 335	ya thats kewl to if they ask for my picture .i usuly let elders take pictures of me to. ya thats kewl elders are kewl people even the growchy ones ay. its not there fault. o.k. late. __________________ everything needs a bit more taste that's were Spicy comes in

09-05-2003, 08:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
Grits & Beans is back Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 4,730	Couldn't have said it better myself spicy. Wow spicy you must be good looking if people come up to you wanting to take a picture.

09-07-2003, 06:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Awahili Retired Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indian Hills KY Posts: 29	Well personally being in a wheelchair and being a bit on the elderly side (be nice now) I like the idea of an elders only area! I like that very much! I'm tired of going to Pow Wows and having no where to sit (shhh never mind I take my seat with me) I can't get close enough to see what is going on due to so many young people standing around blocking the view! Or when there are stadiums such at the Trail of Tears Pow Wow in Hopkinsville KY they will block the entrance not even the Dancers can get in, let alone the Elders or anyone else, and heaven forbid you to be in a wheelchair, it's like you don't exist! Or you have to sit right there and some young bit who has no training or teaching is letting their children scream for the sake of screaming! Please let the Sr's Elders elderly handicapped whatever you want to call us have our own space! That would be sooo nice! Tsiniti thank you for telling me about Paris Landing! I'm not very portable but the more local Pow Wows there are then the happier I am! I'm sorry but this years TOT's stunk! The Dancers were great, but what in the world happened to the Vendors?