whats your complaint about recorders around the drum.

stillrezin · 07-07-2006, 05:04 PM

singers, singers family or spectators sitting by the drums.

what makes you start to growl or frown about recorders.

I know everyone has got an opinion about this.

stillrezin · 07-07-2006, 05:07 PM

here is my complaint and suggestion for the recorders.

When I'm Down Beating, I seem to whack a recorder or person directly behind me. and after i whack someone with my drum stick i just about lose the rythm(spelling?)

so i suggest recorders give us some room. please. or at least duck or move when you see that drum stick coming at you. thank you.

The_HULK · 07-07-2006, 05:22 PM

My complaint is when recorders record all weekend, and then put out a c.d for sale without the drum group's consent.

I know there is a lot of issues and opinions with this, but fact is, if you are a singer and are travelling around on your own coin, and someone comes along and literally steals those songs it just isn't right.

If you are a recorder and not a singer you can say the songs are for the people and what-not.

I look at this just like someone taking songs from like a Metallica, Eminem, or Johnny Lang and sell their live recordings for profit.

**chazziff** · 07-07-2006, 06:00 PM

what bugs me are recorders, or even people WITHOUT a recording devices, come rushing in "the running of the bulls in Spain" when a certain groups start singing!! leaving behind a wide space of knocked over drinks, food, chairs tossed aside like a small tornado came threw!! and sometimes crying lil kids cuz they just got pushed over so they (the recorders) can get closer!!

this is the main reason why i no longer sit beside ANY drum ... my partner used to sing with the likes of high noon, blacklodge, blackstone, wild horse, fly-in eagle so the recording crowds were huge!! and may i say VERY VERY rude ...

mnx_str8_up · 07-07-2006, 06:16 PM

The only complaint that I have is sometimes with all the recorders around,what little breeze there may be, doesn't get to the drum because of everybody standin' around!! Personally, I like the recorders being around. It makes you feel like a rock band or something.........it gets you pumped up.........makes you wanna jam out to please the fans.But I also understand the spectators viewpoint also.........it gets hard to see the p-wow with all the people standing around.

**kneegrow_native** · 07-11-2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillrezin

here is my complaint and suggestion for the recorders.

When I'm Down Beating, I seem to whack a recorder or person directly behind me. and after i whack someone with my drum stick i just about lose the rythm(spelling?)

so i suggest recorders give us some room. please. or at least duck or move when you see that drum stick coming at you. thank you.

I have smacked my fair share of recorders on the downbeat. Fortunately I have managed to keep my beat going.

One lady had the nerve to stare at me all ugly after she got smacked on the lips while I was downbeating.

Another time we were sitting near the grand entry area and were singing the grand exit song. While the dancers were going out I did a downbeat and hit a guy's recorder out of his hand and it flew in the path of the dancers, then the batteries came flopping out and rolled all over, it was cool.

**smartybell** · 07-11-2006, 06:22 PM

At powwows where they are using wireless mics, the people standing around the drum interfere with the signal of the mic. Also ya just can't jam while someone is pushing up against your back holding a recorder over your head. No breeze, no movement, no space.
Plus as some powwows, you will have points deducted (at some powwows with drum contests) for people recording or standing around your drum (like you can help it)

Annnnnd you might even lose your wallet by some handy dandy pick pocket, or have feathers broke (those of us who come to the drum after dancing)

People just need to give the drums some space, ennit!

stillrezin · 07-12-2006, 01:50 AM

I agree with MNX that a singer can feed of the crowd and the ppl around the drum recording or watching, rock star feel.

and the breeze is pretty much gone.

and cant forget the one who are pushy and bump into ppl and bump into the singers.

smacking a recorder with a drum stick is a hazard for the person standing too close.

some of those recorders need to show some respect for the kids and parents and especially the old ppl sitting next to the drums.

all good replies.

1badazzndn · 07-12-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The_HULK

I look at this just like someone taking songs from like a Metallica, Eminem, or Johnny Lang and sell their live recordings for profit.

Who is Johnny Lang?!?!?! lolol jksjks

song_bird_woman · 07-17-2006, 06:19 PM

The only complaint I have about recorders is:
1) they show lack of respect for back up singers. They all stand around and won't make room for back up singers. If they do make room, it's barely enough room for back up singers to blast or all fit in and sum are left behind to sing behind a row of peepz. *LOL*

1badazzndn · 07-17-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by song_bird_woman

The only complaint I have about recorders is:
1) they show lack of respect for back up singers. They all stand around and won't make room for back up singers. If they do make room, it's barely enough room for back up singers to blast or all fit in and sum are left behind to sing behind a row of peepz. *LOL*

Yeah ur right....gots to give love to tha back up singers....Ill clear a path you aight

**billyjoejimbob** · 07-18-2006, 05:36 PM

From a tapers POV.

I tape drums that I like to hear for personal listening pleasure. Yeah, I have the CDs but the live stuff sometimes comes out better.

I was always considerate of the drum and their family around them. I would leave plenty of room while still getting up close, but some idiot would cram in front of me. I could start a song right up at the drum and finish about 5 people back.

Then there is the people that just push their way in and stand there while looking everywhere but at the singers. wtf!

But seriously, give them room, if you are so close that you get hit, you deserve it.

**Chevy_truckin_NDN** · 07-18-2006, 05:52 PM

Actually, I don't have a complaint. I never drum hopped in my life...LOL I sat behind drums a time or two...but dang the powwows musta been really small cuz all I saw was the drum bunnies...LMAO

stillrezin · 07-18-2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy_truckin_NDN

Actually, I don't have a complaint. I never drum hopped in my life...LOL I sat behind drums a time or two...but dang the powwows musta been really small cuz all I saw was the drum bunnies...LMAO

LOL.....drum bunnies.

i like that.

07-07-2006, 05:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
stillrezin REZIN RIDE Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 3rd tipi on the left just past the broken down car and the pack of rez dogs chasing horse's Posts: 31,260 Blog Entries: 5	whats your complaint about recorders around the drum. singers, singers family or spectators sitting by the drums. what makes you start to growl or frown about recorders. I know everyone has got an opinion about this.

07-07-2006, 05:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
The_HULK Pow-Wow Singer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On The Pow-Wow Circuit. Posts: 177	My complaint is when recorders record all weekend, and then put out a c.d for sale without the drum group's consent. I know there is a lot of issues and opinions with this, but fact is, if you are a singer and are travelling around on your own coin, and someone comes along and literally steals those songs it just isn't right. If you are a recorder and not a singer you can say the songs are for the people and what-not. I look at this just like someone taking songs from like a Metallica, Eminem, or Johnny Lang and sell their live recordings for profit. __________________ There are 2 sides to every coin! A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done. - Vince Lombardi *Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work. - Vince Lombardi

07-11-2006, 06:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
smartybell Woman's Tradish Dancer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Don't know do ya. Posts: 2,321	At powwows where they are using wireless mics, the people standing around the drum interfere with the signal of the mic. Also ya just can't jam while someone is pushing up against your back holding a recorder over your head. No breeze, no movement, no space. Plus as some powwows, you will have points deducted (at some powwows with drum contests) for people recording or standing around your drum (like you can help it) Annnnnd you might even lose your wallet by some handy dandy pick pocket, or have feathers broke (those of us who come to the drum after dancing) People just need to give the drums some space, ennit! __________________ Save the Drama For Your Mama.

07-17-2006, 06:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
song_bird_woman Junior Dancer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 123	Complaint about recorders around drum... The only complaint I have about recorders is: 1) they show lack of respect for back up singers. They all stand around and won't make room for back up singers. If they do make room, it's barely enough room for back up singers to blast or all fit in and sum are left behind to sing behind a row of peepz. LOL

07-18-2006, 05:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chevy_truckin_NDN Pawnee Captive Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 2 miles south, take the 1st dirt road to your right. See the white fence? Thats us! Posts: 4,677 Blog Entries: 29	Actually, I don't have a complaint. I never drum hopped in my life...LOL I sat behind drums a time or two...but dang the powwows musta been really small cuz all I saw was the drum bunnies...LMAO __________________ I know I'm in my own little world, but it's ok. They know me here. ... Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial. ~~I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.~~ ~~I can see your point, but I still think you're full of **** .~~

07-07-2006, 05:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
stillrezin REZIN RIDE Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 3rd tipi on the left just past the broken down car and the pack of rez dogs chasing horse's Posts: 31,260 Blog Entries: 5	here is my complaint and suggestion for the recorders. When I'm Down Beating, I seem to whack a recorder or person directly behind me. and after i whack someone with my drum stick i just about lose the rythm(spelling?) so i suggest recorders give us some room. please. or at least duck or move when you see that drum stick coming at you. thank you.

07-07-2006, 06:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
chazziff YO!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in a big sleigh bed Posts: 6,511	what bugs me are recorders, or even people WITHOUT a recording devices, come rushing in "the running of the bulls in Spain" when a certain groups start singing!! leaving behind a wide space of knocked over drinks, food, chairs tossed aside like a small tornado came threw!! and sometimes crying lil kids cuz they just got pushed over so they (the recorders) can get closer!! this is the main reason why i no longer sit beside ANY drum ... my partner used to sing with the likes of high noon, blacklodge, blackstone, wild horse, fly-in eagle so the recording crowds were huge!! and may i say VERY VERY rude ...

07-07-2006, 06:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
mnx_str8_up powwow professional Join Date: May 2006 Location: the land 10,000 side steps!! Posts: 53	The only complaint that I have is sometimes with all the recorders around,what little breeze there may be, doesn't get to the drum because of everybody standin' around!! Personally, I like the recorders being around. It makes you feel like a rock band or something.........it gets you pumped up.........makes you wanna jam out to please the fans.But I also understand the spectators viewpoint also.........it gets hard to see the p-wow with all the people standing around.

07-12-2006, 01:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
stillrezin REZIN RIDE Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 3rd tipi on the left just past the broken down car and the pack of rez dogs chasing horse's Posts: 31,260 Blog Entries: 5	I agree with MNX that a singer can feed of the crowd and the ppl around the drum recording or watching, rock star feel. and the breeze is pretty much gone. and cant forget the one who are pushy and bump into ppl and bump into the singers. smacking a recorder with a drum stick is a hazard for the person standing too close. some of those recorders need to show some respect for the kids and parents and especially the old ppl sitting next to the drums. all good replies.

07-18-2006, 05:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
billyjoejimbob Fat Singer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: white guy land Posts: 1,526	From a tapers POV. I tape drums that I like to hear for personal listening pleasure. Yeah, I have the CDs but the live stuff sometimes comes out better. I was always considerate of the drum and their family around them. I would leave plenty of room while still getting up close, but some idiot would cram in front of me. I could start a song right up at the drum and finish about 5 people back. Then there is the people that just push their way in and stand there while looking everywhere but at the singers. wtf! But seriously, give them room, if you are so close that you get hit, you deserve it.