Will The Real Whitetail Cree Please Stand Up

Wagon Burner · 11-30-2005, 11:56 AM

Should the original Whitetail Cree Singers reclaim the name and start using it again? They have been travelling as Poplar since a few of the younger singers took the name Whitetail Cree from the original members. Since that time the drum group (WTC) has totally disbanded and they have essentially ran the name into the ground. Personally, I feel that they should reclaim the name and try to bring it back to what it once was. So lets hear what you think, should they revert back to the Whitetail Cree name or should they stick it out with Poplar?

Gitchie_Cheechoo · 12-02-2005, 02:24 AM

I thought I would post a reply being that I am and still consider myself to be apart of Whitetail Cree. This group has a rich history, singers come and go, anyone who has been apart of a drum knows this and the drum will always remain as long as it still has singers around it maybe not at the moment but in time. I reflect on my experiences and I feel that the drum and singers whom I still consider my brothers have helped shape who I am today. I will always be grateful to the original members who welcomed me there in the first place. I grew up around WTC before it became WTC. WTC is like my home, and I know in my heart and hopefully to the rest of the singers, it's always place to come back to. The drum is what will always bring us together. Maybe not now, but in time. I believe everything happens for a reason and maybe the decision should be up to the singers....don't you think.

Gitchie_Cheechoo · 12-02-2005, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gitchie_Cheechoo

I thought I would post a reply being that I am and still consider myself to be a part of Whitetail Cree. This group has a rich history, singers come and go, anyone who has been part of a drum group knows this and the drum will always remain as long as it still has singers around it, not at the moment but in time. I reflect on my experiences and I feel that the drum and singers whom I still consider my uncles and brothers have helped shape who I am today. I will always be grateful to the original members who welcomed me there in the first place. I grew up around WTC before it became WTC. WTC is like my home, and I know in my heart and hopefully to the rest of the singers, it's always place to come back to, no matter what our own individual situation is like. The drum is what will always bring us together. Maybe not now, but in time. I believe everything happens for a reason and maybe the decision should be up to the singers....don't you think? Maybe you like WTC for the music and would like to hear the singers come together to create good powwow music or enjoy the company of that person or persons or maybe both. The name was never taken or given up, it Continued, maybe not the way you or I like it, but that's just how it unfolded, but WTC never FOLDED. Atleast not in my eyes or in my heart.

**injunboy** · 12-04-2005, 01:45 PM

so if poplar sang under the name whitetail then they would instantly sound better..? haha, *no.* somewhere something got lost.

Gitchie_Cheechoo · 12-05-2005, 09:52 PM

Poplar has been around for a few years now since Whitetail took a new direction with singers ,it's something the brothers had started and have stuck to, it's a family thing I think, whereas Whitetail was made up of many singers and over the years singers have come and gone. If you started up a group after leaving the group and then go back to it, it's kinda stupid to resort back to a name that was left in the first place, kinda lacks respect in many ways. Whitetail has had a different sound ever since, it's something different when it comes to the songs and style. The men that sing on Poplar made their decision, are you asking them to abandon everything they started so you can feel better about starting this thread?

Phish · 12-06-2005, 11:38 AM

I totally see what wagon_burner is saying, I also believe that the "young guns" that white tail hired to come help sing at a few powwows with them killed the white tail cree name. I alos believe that the brothers that started white tail cree should take the name back that they started and let slip out from their hands to a bunch of kids that only wanted the fame that came with the name.

And to say that there is a new and better sound from the "new crew of WTC" is a joke, the new young guns could never match up to what white tail cree was before they were corrupted.....just listen to the old schemitzun tapes...white tail cree would take the "new WTC" out back and show them boys how to sing.

But what ever the original borthers of white tail cree decide to do they will always sounds better than WTC anyday.

Rock on POPLAR

nena · 12-09-2005, 02:23 PM

I hear what your saying. Why would anyone go backwards, just because of a name?
Poplar has created a name for themselves as a respectful drum group. They are a great bunch of men and should continue to move forward as POPLAR SINGERS! Afterall it's not the name that makes a drum it's the singers!

ROCK ON POPLAR!

**Kiwehnzii** · 12-09-2005, 09:01 PM

Poplar dudes are my buds. Stay poplar.

103 · 12-19-2005, 01:07 AM

Who's White Tail Cree anyways

View Poll Results: Whitetail Cree Or Poplar?
Reclaim the Whitetail Cree name	10	66.67%
Stick with using Poplar	5	33.33%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

11-30-2005, 11:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Wagon Burner Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 14	Will The Real Whitetail Cree Please Stand Up Should the original Whitetail Cree Singers reclaim the name and start using it again? They have been travelling as Poplar since a few of the younger singers took the name Whitetail Cree from the original members. Since that time the drum group (WTC) has totally disbanded and they have essentially ran the name into the ground. Personally, I feel that they should reclaim the name and try to bring it back to what it once was. So lets hear what you think, should they revert back to the Whitetail Cree name or should they stick it out with Poplar?

12-02-2005, 02:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gitchie_Cheechoo Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: James Bay Posts: 41	A few words... I thought I would post a reply being that I am and still consider myself to be apart of Whitetail Cree. This group has a rich history, singers come and go, anyone who has been apart of a drum knows this and the drum will always remain as long as it still has singers around it maybe not at the moment but in time. I reflect on my experiences and I feel that the drum and singers whom I still consider my brothers have helped shape who I am today. I will always be grateful to the original members who welcomed me there in the first place. I grew up around WTC before it became WTC. WTC is like my home, and I know in my heart and hopefully to the rest of the singers, it's always place to come back to. The drum is what will always bring us together. Maybe not now, but in time. I believe everything happens for a reason and maybe the decision should be up to the singers....don't you think. __________________ "Remember your history. To forget is to not belong". "None will improve your lot If you yourself do not." Last edited by Gitchie_Cheechoo; 12-02-2005 at 02:41 AM.

12-04-2005, 01:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
injunboy Ganado 3A North Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: nizhoni arizoni Posts: 1,643	so if poplar sang under the name whitetail then they would instantly sound better..? haha, no. somewhere something got lost. __________________ thanks dad for showing me the way, teaching me the language, and not leaving my mother...L *original XXL * jus like McSteamie

12-05-2005, 09:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gitchie_Cheechoo Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: James Bay Posts: 41	and another thing.... Poplar has been around for a few years now since Whitetail took a new direction with singers ,it's something the brothers had started and have stuck to, it's a family thing I think, whereas Whitetail was made up of many singers and over the years singers have come and gone. If you started up a group after leaving the group and then go back to it, it's kinda stupid to resort back to a name that was left in the first place, kinda lacks respect in many ways. Whitetail has had a different sound ever since, it's something different when it comes to the songs and style. The men that sing on Poplar made their decision, are you asking them to abandon everything they started so you can feel better about starting this thread? __________________ "Remember your history. To forget is to not belong". "None will improve your lot If you yourself do not."

12-06-2005, 11:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
Phish Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3	I totally see what wagon_burner is saying, I also believe that the "young guns" that white tail hired to come help sing at a few powwows with them killed the white tail cree name. I alos believe that the brothers that started white tail cree should take the name back that they started and let slip out from their hands to a bunch of kids that only wanted the fame that came with the name. And to say that there is a new and better sound from the "new crew of WTC" is a joke, the new young guns could never match up to what white tail cree was before they were corrupted.....just listen to the old schemitzun tapes...white tail cree would take the "new WTC" out back and show them boys how to sing. But what ever the original borthers of white tail cree decide to do they will always sounds better than WTC anyday. Rock on POPLAR Last edited by Phish; 12-06-2005 at 11:44 AM.

12-09-2005, 02:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
nena Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 59	Rock On Poplar! I hear what your saying. Why would anyone go backwards, just because of a name? Poplar has created a name for themselves as a respectful drum group. They are a great bunch of men and should continue to move forward as POPLAR SINGERS! Afterall it's not the name that makes a drum it's the singers! ROCK ON POPLAR! __________________ love me tender, love me true

12-09-2005, 09:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,868	Poplar dudes are my buds. Stay poplar.

12-19-2005, 01:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
103 Drum Judge Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North America Posts: 65	Come out Fighting Who's White Tail Cree anyways __________________ Minimum

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