Which Northern/Southern CD is better?

Native_Sooner · 03-30-2005, 10:29 PM

Which Northern/Southern group is better? Sizzortail/Bear Creek or Youngbird/Midnight Express? This is a hard one but i would have too say Sizzortail/Bear Creek.

AEn8ive_kita · 03-31-2005, 12:47 AM

Ummm... I really like the Bear Creek/Sizzortail album so I will go with that one! Track 2 by Sizzortail is totally rockin and dang those vocals... gives me the chills!!!

Therese · 03-31-2005, 11:58 AM

Sizzortail / Bear Creek Cd is better.

NCheyGirl21 · 01-11-2006, 09:27 AM

I say both...i've heard both cds and there awsome.

7pointbull · 07-06-2008, 12:21 PM

St/bc. Imo.

**ok24stacey** · 07-09-2008, 09:14 AM

ST/BC......but what I would like to see is N Cree/Thunderhill

ronski · 08-01-2008, 10:53 AM

Midnite Express and Youngbird goes down in history as an all time duo.Bear Creek and SizzorTail is musse'. The other two are classics just to have on deck to keep any collection complete.

TKMJ Productions · 08-03-2008, 10:21 AM

Interesting question. The answer to this question is always subjective. Now who you feel is the better drum is a more reasonable question because many here don't understand the concepts of the art of recording a drum for CD duplacation. You can have a killer drum live on the powwow circuit but their CD sounds dead. The opposite may also apply. Sound quality of a CD is dependant on the audio recording gear used and the engineer at the controls.

Our drum CDs are harder to record properly then a rock band. You can't isolate the drum from the singers. You have to capture the take "as is". You can't multitrack a drum so the engineer and his recording gear has to be set up perfectally to capture the sound the first time. You can't use scratch vocals on a track and add good vocals later. The feeling just isn't there for the singers singing on headphones to a drum track previously recorded. It doesn't work that way with our drums! The engineer must know his stuff around one of our drums. Most studio engineers don't have a clue as how to capture the sound correctly. Recording our drums is a very specalized type of recording. There is a large techenical and social end to our drums that most audio engineers don't understand.

So all in all, the sound you hear from that CD is subjective!

Ken

Jaystins_Dad · 08-07-2008, 01:19 AM

Although it's old is still jammin! Midnite/Youngbird gets 1 vote!

stillrezin · 08-08-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TKMJ Productions

Interesting question. The answer to this question is always subjective. Now who you feel is the better drum is a more reasonable question because many here don't understand the concepts of the art of recording a drum for CD duplacation. You can have a killer drum live on the powwow circuit but their CD sounds dead. The opposite may also apply. Sound quality of a CD is dependant on the audio recording gear used and the engineer at the controls.

Our drum CDs are harder to record properly then a rock band. You can't isolate the drum from the singers. You have to capture the take "as is". You can't multitrack a drum so the engineer and his recording gear has to be set up perfectally to capture the sound the first time. You can't use scratch vocals on a track and add good vocals later. The feeling just isn't there for the singers singing on headphones to a drum track previously recorded. It doesn't work that way with our drums! The engineer must know his stuff around one of our drums. Most studio engineers don't have a clue as how to capture the sound correctly. Recording our drums is a very specalized type of recording. There is a large techenical and social end to our drums that most audio engineers don't understand.

So all in all, the sound you hear from that CD is subjective!

Ken

soooooo.

i take it you are not picking any of the drum groups listed above after all that tech stuff?

Coyot_In_The_House · 08-11-2008, 11:40 PM

When it comes to "these" threads....Petty at best.....

TKMJ Productions · 08-12-2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillrezin

soooooo.

i take it you are not picking any of the drum groups listed above after all that tech stuff?

You take it correctly.

**injunboy** · 08-20-2008, 11:09 PM

northern cree went through with youngbird already. it was pretty nice. even before that was thee best ever northern southern combo.. youngbird with the boys. both drums were sooo stacked and deep. just stare at liner notes and check out TBZ line up before it all went down. this cd is way cooler and original than the rest and should be given alot of credit. hella nice songs from beginning to end.

View Poll Results: Which Northern/Southern Cd is better?
Youngbird/Midnight Express	8	38.10%
Sizzortail/Bear Creek	13	61.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

03-30-2005, 10:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Native_Sooner Muzzy Dancer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Da knee oklahoma Posts: 504	Which Northern/Southern CD is better? Which Northern/Southern group is better? Sizzortail/Bear Creek or Youngbird/Midnight Express? This is a hard one but i would have too say Sizzortail/Bear Creek.

03-31-2005, 12:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
AEn8ive_kita Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Grants, NM Posts: 277	Ummm... I really like the Bear Creek/Sizzortail album so I will go with that one! Track 2 by Sizzortail is totally rockin and dang those vocals... gives me the chills!!! __________________ "~~<~~~Miss Nikita~~~>~~" http://www.myspace.com/kitagal is where i be lol

07-06-2008, 12:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
7pointbull I.T.I. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 728 Blog Entries: 1	St/bc. Imo. __________________ It's mind control. Corruption of yer taughts, destruction of yer soul...

07-09-2008, 09:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
ok24stacey I can't help it..... Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: land of red dirt and tornados Posts: 2,348 Blog Entries: 3	ST/BC......but what I would like to see is N Cree/Thunderhill __________________ *To live is the rarest thing in the World. Most people just exist, that is all.*

03-31-2005, 11:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
Therese Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12	Sizzortail / Bear Creek Cd is better.

01-11-2006, 09:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
NCheyGirl21 Wife To A Marine Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 675 Blog Entries: 2	I say both...i've heard both cds and there awsome.

08-01-2008, 10:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
ronski Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ojo encino Posts: 68	TBZ/YB..No.Cree/YB Midnite Express and Youngbird goes down in history as an all time duo.Bear Creek and SizzorTail is musse'. The other two are classics just to have on deck to keep any collection complete. __________________ ski

08-03-2008, 10:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
TKMJ Productions Powwow Sound 4 U Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ohio, Oregon. Two locations, No waiting Posts: 917	Interesting question. The answer to this question is always subjective. Now who you feel is the better drum is a more reasonable question because many here don't understand the concepts of the art of recording a drum for CD duplacation. You can have a killer drum live on the powwow circuit but their CD sounds dead. The opposite may also apply. Sound quality of a CD is dependant on the audio recording gear used and the engineer at the controls. Our drum CDs are harder to record properly then a rock band. You can't isolate the drum from the singers. You have to capture the take "as is". You can't multitrack a drum so the engineer and his recording gear has to be set up perfectally to capture the sound the first time. You can't use scratch vocals on a track and add good vocals later. The feeling just isn't there for the singers singing on headphones to a drum track previously recorded. It doesn't work that way with our drums! The engineer must know his stuff around one of our drums. Most studio engineers don't have a clue as how to capture the sound correctly. Recording our drums is a very specalized type of recording. There is a large techenical and social end to our drums that most audio engineers don't understand. So all in all, the sound you hear from that CD is subjective! Ken __________________ Don't ask me what I think about something unless you want a truthful anwser. It may not be the anwser you are looking for. It's better to fly with the eagles then drive with the turkeys. Last edited by TKMJ Productions; 08-03-2008 at 10:26 AM.

08-07-2008, 01:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jaystins_Dad Jaystin &amp;amp; Jakobys DAD!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 28	Midnite/YoungBird Although it's old is still jammin! Midnite/Youngbird gets 1 vote!

08-11-2008, 11:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Coyot_In_The_House NO STALKERS! GET A LIFE? Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,865	I'll stick 2 my usual speel..... When it comes to "these" threads....Petty at best.....

08-20-2008, 11:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
injunboy Ganado 3A North Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: nizhoni arizoni Posts: 1,600	northern cree went through with youngbird already. it was pretty nice. even before that was thee best ever northern southern combo.. youngbird with the boys. both drums were sooo stacked and deep. just stare at liner notes and check out TBZ line up before it all went down. this cd is way cooler and original than the rest and should be given alot of credit. hella nice songs from beginning to end. __________________ thanks dad for showing me the way, teaching me the language, and not leaving my mother...L *original XXL * jus like McSteamie