ole school!!!!! PIGEON LAKE vs. ASSINABOINE JRZ????

Snaggin_NDN · 09-01-2004, 12:52 PM

Now look back into your old history books (cassette tapes/8 traxes) and see if anyone out there rememberz theze two old tyme jammin groupiez (now retired namez) from tha 80's n early 90's when they ruled tha circut.

I got an old schemitzun video when Stoney park won one time and Pigeon lake wuz a hostin dat powwow or somthin, they was like drum #1.
on another note i saw Curtis Assinaboine and old friends jammin out as Assinaboine JRS at a small powwow up mah way this year, but only sang a couple o' intertribalz and a men's buckskin tune. they wur bringin out them 80's tunes they used to make when brotha Ferlin wuz around.

hewhowowsthecrowd · 10-06-2004, 10:40 PM

ol' skool pigeon lake=
cecil nepoose
lester brown
leroy brown
shane "toots" deon

assiniboine jrz.=
curtis a.
ferlin a.
curtis meeches
darryl kingbird
pat pierre

that's why i'm undecided, too close too call.

WhoMe · 10-07-2004, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hewhowowsthecrowd

ol' skool pigeon lake=
cecil nepoose
lester brown
leroy brown
shane "toots" deon

assiniboine jrz.=
curtis a.
ferlin a.
curtis meeches
darryl kingbird
pat pierre

that's why i'm undecided, too close too call.

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hhwstcrowd:

I remember traveling the Canadian circuit when Pigeon Lake was on top of their game. Francis Green and Dennis Lightning used to also carry some of their leads. I am indebted to the Pigeon Lake singers for keeping me in their homes, feeding me putting up sweats and sharing information on Cree culture. They were/are good people.

The Assiniboine Jrs. also had their heyday a little after Pigeon Lake's popularity. They also had a great drum and travelled the powwow circuit far and wide.

Snaggin NDN,

Great drum groups come and go. Young voices of new singers seem to filter in and replace the great singers of yesteryear. But as things evolve, in 10 years, the top drums of today will eventually be replaced by new drums with new sounds and new crews.

Coyot_In_The_House · 01-27-2005, 06:51 PM

Good Memories....

I can hear Curtis now..."Hey Cha!"

I remember when Pigeon Lake was Honor Host in Hartford CT. Good singing! They really looked after my little bro in Canada too....Good people!

wyldhoss · 04-08-2005, 02:44 PM

Assiniboine Jrs...are One Of My All Time Favorites...they Started Out Sining At About The Same Time As Me...i Remember Going To Little Powwows And Seeing Them...th4ey Had 4 Or 5 Singers Then And They Seemed So Much Like Movie Stars To Me...i've Been Fortunate Enough To Be Able To Sing With Them...curtis Is My Bro And We Talk When We See Each Other And Always Has Some Good Words To Say To Me...the Twins...curt Meeches...those Were The Leads...pigeon Lake On The Other Hand Had It All Too...the Jams...the Leads...they Were The Shyt Too...just To Have These Drums Set Up At A Powwow Today....

Grizzly · 01-13-2006, 08:42 PM

HOLAY!! I'm undecided on this one... Geez, that brings back some fond memories. Last time I heard these drums jam was way back in the Late 80's & Early 90's.
Pigeon Lake @ Window Rock & Assinaboine Jrs @ Casa Grande.

**50cal** · 01-31-2006, 12:19 PM

Dang Grizz we are riding the same wavelength....I remember seeing Pigeon lake last at hartford....and Assiniboine Jrs before ferlin left was prolly in Casa Grande......Both Drums were the shyt.....it'd be awesome as hell just to see these drums get together one more time and jam out......

btcsinger · 01-31-2006, 02:06 PM

dang these groups were awesome always loved listenin to the jrs. still hear their songs being sung sometimes but not as good as the real deal tho. but then again nothin ever sounds as good as the original.

witemaneater · 04-16-2006, 02:21 PM

Pigeon Lake All The Way

**kneegrow_native** · 04-18-2006, 08:26 PM

This one is way close. Both drums rocked it solid back in the day, but I will lean ever so slightly towards Pigeon Lake. I thought they sounded strong live, but they I heard a recording of them at a home town pow-wow and it was unreal.

**Kiwehnzii** · 05-13-2007, 06:28 PM

Those Assiniboine boys used to sing with Myron Reday & Red Nation. Then they started their own group. All good songs. I can hear them songs in my mind.

They also sang with Sioux Assiniboine. I can't think of his first name right now but his last was Brown. kickass songs.

Pigeon Lake had them really nice kickin' back and just listen tunes.

I'm not voting. They're both right up there in the old school dep't.

**50cal** · 05-14-2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii

They also sang with Sioux Assiniboine. I can't think of his first name right now but his last was Brown. kickass songs.

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You mean Frank Brown???

**Kiwehnzii** · 05-15-2007, 12:32 AM

That's him. I thought of it after i posted.

One of the longest songs I heard was at Whitebear. Red Nation & Sioux Assiniboine alternated singing a whistle song to honor all the whistle men at the powwow. They didn't expect that there would be that many. 16 guys blew their whistles on these 2 drums until Steve Charging Eagle brought it to an end. There were at least 8 more guys waiting to honor the song with their whistles. Curtis and the late Ferlin were singing with Red Nation.

Coyot_In_The_House · 05-15-2007, 01:23 AM

Frank "Yata hey" Brown....Sioux Assiniboine was tough....Go by Dakota Travels now....Good Dakota music....I was just listening to some Chiniki Lake from 1982 or so...Holay! Kicking! Assiniboine Jr's were on top of their game years ago....You can understand their music! Just saw Cecil @ GON....matter of fact just heard some Pigeon lake from the 80's....Slamming Cree music! Remember Battle Creek Singers?

View Poll Results: Assinaboine Jrz VERSUS Pigeon Lake?????
Assinaboine Jrs	13	38.24%
Pigeon lake	18	52.94%
or we gonna be undecided?????	3	8.82%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

09-01-2004, 12:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Snaggin_NDN Junior Dancer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: tha REZ Posts: 103	ole school!!!!! PIGEON LAKE vs. ASSINABOINE JRZ???? Now look back into your old history books (cassette tapes/8 traxes) and see if anyone out there rememberz theze two old tyme jammin groupiez (now retired namez) from tha 80's n early 90's when they ruled tha circut. I got an old schemitzun video when Stoney park won one time and Pigeon lake wuz a hostin dat powwow or somthin, they was like drum #1. on another note i saw Curtis Assinaboine and old friends jammin out as Assinaboine JRS at a small powwow up mah way this year, but only sang a couple o' intertribalz and a men's buckskin tune. they wur bringin out them 80's tunes they used to make when brotha Ferlin wuz around. __________________ "If God wanted me to be a white man he would have done so in the first place" -Sitting Bull

10-06-2004, 10:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
hewhowowsthecrowd Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 38	p.l. vs. a-jrz.?? ol' skool pigeon lake= cecil nepoose lester brown leroy brown shane "toots" deon assiniboine jrz.= curtis a. ferlin a. curtis meeches darryl kingbird pat pierre that's why i'm undecided, too close too call.

01-27-2005, 06:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Coyot_In_The_House uhvdlv Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,967	2 Good Groups quality Music..... Good Memories.... I can hear Curtis now..."Hey Cha!" I remember when Pigeon Lake was Honor Host in Hartford CT. Good singing! They really looked after my little bro in Canada too....Good people!

04-08-2005, 02:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
wyldhoss MO' PHAT STYLE Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CUT KNIFE HILL Posts: 37	The Jrs. Were The Shyt... Assiniboine Jrs...are One Of My All Time Favorites...they Started Out Sining At About The Same Time As Me...i Remember Going To Little Powwows And Seeing Them...th4ey Had 4 Or 5 Singers Then And They Seemed So Much Like Movie Stars To Me...i've Been Fortunate Enough To Be Able To Sing With Them...curtis Is My Bro And We Talk When We See Each Other And Always Has Some Good Words To Say To Me...the Twins...curt Meeches...those Were The Leads...pigeon Lake On The Other Hand Had It All Too...the Jams...the Leads...they Were The Shyt Too...just To Have These Drums Set Up At A Powwow Today.... __________________ R.I.P SHIANNE BAPTISTE-BULL

01-13-2006, 08:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Grizzly ~Hón-wungwa~ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 801	~Pigeon Lake vs Assinaboine Jrs.~ HOLAY!! I'm undecided on this one... Geez, that brings back some fond memories. Last time I heard these drums jam was way back in the Late 80's & Early 90's. Pigeon Lake @ Window Rock & Assinaboine Jrs @ Casa Grande.

01-31-2006, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
50cal Natural Born Killer...... Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Looking for some bad guys... Posts: 7,332	Dang Grizz we are riding the same wavelength....I remember seeing Pigeon lake last at hartford....and Assiniboine Jrs before ferlin left was prolly in Casa Grande......Both Drums were the shyt.....it'd be awesome as hell just to see these drums get together one more time and jam out...... __________________ "Sweat dries, blood clots, bones heal. Suck it up. Be a Marine"

01-31-2006, 02:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
btcsinger singer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Qualla bonduary Posts: 84	dang these groups were awesome always loved listenin to the jrs. still hear their songs being sung sometimes but not as good as the real deal tho. but then again nothin ever sounds as good as the original.

04-16-2006, 02:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
witemaneater Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6	Pigeon Lake All The Way

04-18-2006, 08:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
kneegrow_native whip cream is better Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In God's Country Posts: 1,431	This one is way close. Both drums rocked it solid back in the day, but I will lean ever so slightly towards Pigeon Lake. I thought they sounded strong live, but they I heard a recording of them at a home town pow-wow and it was unreal. __________________ It is so sad that a family can torn apart by something as simple as a wild pack of dogs.

05-13-2007, 06:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,871	Those Assiniboine boys used to sing with Myron Reday & Red Nation. Then they started their own group. All good songs. I can hear them songs in my mind. They also sang with Sioux Assiniboine. I can't think of his first name right now but his last was Brown. kickass songs. Pigeon Lake had them really nice kickin' back and just listen tunes. I'm not voting. They're both right up there in the old school dep't.

05-15-2007, 12:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,871	That's him. I thought of it after i posted. One of the longest songs I heard was at Whitebear. Red Nation & Sioux Assiniboine alternated singing a whistle song to honor all the whistle men at the powwow. They didn't expect that there would be that many. 16 guys blew their whistles on these 2 drums until Steve Charging Eagle brought it to an end. There were at least 8 more guys waiting to honor the song with their whistles. Curtis and the late Ferlin were singing with Red Nation.

05-15-2007, 01:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Coyot_In_The_House uhvdlv Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,967	Ol' School.... Frank "Yata hey" Brown....Sioux Assiniboine was tough....Go by Dakota Travels now....Good Dakota music....I was just listening to some Chiniki Lake from 1982 or so...Holay! Kicking! Assiniboine Jr's were on top of their game years ago....You can understand their music! Just saw Cecil @ GON....matter of fact just heard some Pigeon lake from the 80's....Slamming Cree music! Remember Battle Creek Singers?

05-16-2007, 12:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
LISA IRONMAKER Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FORT BELKNAP REZ, MT Posts: 2,814