SuzzeQ4

So up here in Canada the conservatives are talking about recognizing Quebec Nationality, as a Nation with in a nation, which the Quebec seperatist will probably use to help them seperate...and if it goes there that would be a whole nother thread
MY POINT:
There talking about recognizing Quebecs Nationhood but not ours?!!!
Well I could start ranting here, but I probably don't have to, Personaly, recognize then, who cares, BUT only after we get recognized first.
Or am I looking at this wrong?...I guess some optimistic person would say that recognizing Quebec Nationhood, opens that door for us, but i'm not optimistic.
So post your views etc.
Suzze

DaCotau

If Quebec were to separate from Canada and become it's own nation then how would this affect the Native nations within and on it's border? It seems like this could be very problamatic. From what little I know about the situation up there it does not seem like the Quebec residents have been particularly respectful of the soverienty of aboriginal nations.

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SuzzeQ4

Your right, there are so many examples of how they have shown no respect for our ppl, but I can say it all with one word, Oka.
enough said?
I doubt if Quebec seperatists even see the similarities between what we want & what they want. Now this Nation with in a nation is a conservative bone to quash seperatist talk for awhile...but if they ever do seperate, I doubt they'd want to deal with the Native nations on & with in "thier' boarders. If they did there wouldn't be much of Qubec left to seperate with.
Suzze

DaCotau

Lol.....ya got that right!!!!

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DaCotau

FYI:
For anyone out there who is not familiar with the Oka crisis you should take a look at this documentary:

Kanehsatake
270 Years of Resistance

The confrontation between the Mohawk Nation and the Canadian Government at the Mercier Bridge.

120 minutes
DVD-R version available
Color
Closed Captioned
Grade Level: 10-12, College, Adult
US Release Date: 1994
Copyright Date: 1993
ISBN (VHS): 0-7722-0491-8
ISBN (DVD): 0-7722-1212-0

Directed by Alanis Obomsawin
Produced by The National Film Board of Canada


"A startling and provocative documentary...a major event in Canadian culture." Toronto Sun

This feature-length documentary by Native American filmmaker Alanis Obomsawin is set in the thick of the armed confrontation between Native American Mohawks and Canadian government forces during the 1990 standoff in the Mohawk village of Kanehsatake near the village of Oka in Quebec. The two-and-a-half month ordeal received brief world attention when the Mohawk warriors temporarily held the busy Mercier Bridge leading to Montreal.
When developers tried to expand a private golf course into the Pines, part of Mohawk Nation's land, tensions flared as Mohawks were once again fighting for their sovereignty. After a police officer was killed in a raid to expel the Mohawks from the Pines, the situation spiraled out of control.

Most journalists covering the crisis were either evacuated or forcibly removed. Obomsawin spent the final weeks of the standoff without a crew, using the slow speed on her sound recorder to make her tape last. She documents in terrifying detail the way that the power of the state, when challenged, betrays negotiated agreements, and responds with force.

Obomsawin's detailed portrayal of the Mohawk community places the Oka crisis within the larger context of Mohawk land rights dating back to 1535 when France claimed the site of present-day Montreal which had been the Mohawk village of Hochelaga. Her evocative portrait of the Mohawk people focuses on the human dimension of the conflict, exploring the fierce conviction of the Mohawks and the communal spirit that enabled them to stand firm.

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