feathers or hair plume everyday wear?

almondeyez81 · 10-07-2006, 08:31 PM

Can they be worn only for special occasion, or
everyday wear?what feather or plume am I allowed to wear? and where can i purchase them,and how can i make them?thanks

crazywolf · 10-07-2006, 09:58 PM

Why not? Our ancestors used to wear feathers all the time, unless I need to be a little more educated.

Anyway if you need to ask where to buy them, its best to just stick to the turkey variety, and you can get those just about anywhere, pow wows, Crazy Crow, ebay, and on and on.

Derek

Blackbear · 10-09-2006, 03:21 AM

It is illegal to buy, sell, trade or barter the real eagle feathers. If you are enrolled in a federally recognized tribe then you need to talk to fish and game about an application for an eagle feather permit. If you are caught with the real thing without a permit the fines are extremely hefty and there's jail time too.

I don't exactly agree with crazywolf though. I don't feel plumes are to be worn just everyday with any old clothes and some would say the same about an eagle feather.

almondeyez81 · 10-09-2006, 10:17 AM

I already know that it is illegal to buy or sell eagle feathers.I was never given the chance to recieve real plumes, and I wanted to make my own to wear in my hair and needed to know what feathers can I use to adnorn my hair with.

Blackbear · 10-10-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by almondeyez81

I already know that it is illegal to buy or sell eagle feathers.I was never given the chance to recieve real plumes, and I wanted to make my own to wear in my hair and needed to know what feathers can I use to adnorn my hair with.

Ok so let's try to put it in a way that I'm trying to convey... Would you wear a jewel encrusted crown with a tshirt and jeans? LOL... Ok I know I would, but I'm wierd...

so anyhow, take a look around. At powwows and everyday life. Who do you see just wearing plumes in their hair without being dressed for a powwow, social or ceremony? The only one's I've seen have been the wannabes. Feathers just are'nt a fashion statement. If you need the world to know visually you're native, then get a native pride shirt or ballcap.

crazywolf · 10-10-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackbear

Ok so let's try to put it in a way that I'm trying to convey... Would you wear a jewel encrusted crown with a tshirt and jeans? LOL... Ok I know I would, but I'm wierd...

so anyhow, take a look around. At powwows and everyday life. Who do you see just wearing plumes in their hair without being dressed for a powwow, social or ceremony? The only one's I've seen have been the wannabes. Feathers just are'nt a fashion statement. If you need the world to know visually you're native, then get a native pride shirt or ballcap.

I do stand corrected, but...

I have seen vets wear a feather or plume on their cap, and not just at pow wows either.

Blackbear · 10-11-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crazywolf

I do stand corrected, but...

I have seen vets wear a feather or plume on their cap, and not just at pow wows either.

Think about it crazy... you're talking about vets. They earned that right.

**WocusWoman** · 10-11-2006, 02:24 PM

Not many people wear a feather or fluff in their hair or hat; but I've seen them. Nobody blinks an eyelash at a native, who is obviously native that wears a feather or fluff in their hair, hat or ears. The people who I know that often wear them, here in Alaska, and out in the Northwest do so on a regular basis; not a fashion statement or such, it's just who they are and it looks RIGHT on them. I will admit, I do look twice at a white looking person who tries to do the same thing, and I snicker to myself, or roll my eyes up a little. It's a valid question; but I would suggest to think it over well before doing it, not everyone is going to be able to pull it off.

crazywolf · 10-11-2006, 10:47 PM

[quote=Blackbear]Think about it crazy... you're talking about vets. They earned that right.[/QUOTE

*nods*

Also, whenever I see someone wearing plumes, that has a light complexion, it just says new age, even if they are wearing regalia. I do not see to many women up north wearing plumes, unless they are associated with a feather, perhaps a small tail feather, and worn upright in the hair. I hardly ever have seen a woman wearing a feather down, except maybe fancy shawl.

Derek

Blackbear · 10-11-2006, 11:00 PM

Yeah I probably get those same looks at powwows because of my fair complexion, but I'm half and just did'nt get the luck of the DNA draw LOL!

I don't know... I just would'nt wear my sunday best to go garage saleing .. you know what I mean? With something like a feather, I don't want to be wearing it where it can potentially be damaged. When I was a kid my mother would put feathers in my hair and the kids would always try to pull them out. I don't like the idea of my feathers being around people who readily will disrespect them.

**Eagle Plumes** · 10-12-2006, 07:30 AM

As for me I dont wear hair feathers for everday wear, If I want to dress up I pull out one of my nice beaded barretts, and maybe a necklace. I keep my feathers in their box until its time to pow-wow.

crazywolf · 10-12-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackbear

Yeah I probably get those same looks at powwows because of my fair complexion, but I'm half and just did'nt get the luck of the DNA draw LOL!

I don't know... I just would'nt wear my sunday best to go garage saleing .. you know what I mean? With something like a feather, I don't want to be wearing it where it can potentially be damaged. When I was a kid my mother would put feathers in my hair and the kids would always try to pull them out. I don't like the idea of my feathers being around people who readily will disrespect them.

Would love to see someone pull on my feathers, they would pull backa nub

lol

10-07-2006, 08:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
almondeyez81 Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4	feathers or hair plume everyday wear? Can they be worn only for special occasion, or everyday wear?what feather or plume am I allowed to wear? and where can i purchase them,and how can i make them?thanks

10-09-2006, 03:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Blackbear Gone Fishing Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,514	It is illegal to buy, sell, trade or barter the real eagle feathers. If you are enrolled in a federally recognized tribe then you need to talk to fish and game about an application for an eagle feather permit. If you are caught with the real thing without a permit the fines are extremely hefty and there's jail time too. I don't exactly agree with crazywolf though. I don't feel plumes are to be worn just everyday with any old clothes and some would say the same about an eagle feather. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Video002-1.flv

10-11-2006, 11:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Blackbear Gone Fishing Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,514	Yeah I probably get those same looks at powwows because of my fair complexion, but I'm half and just did'nt get the luck of the DNA draw LOL! I don't know... I just would'nt wear my sunday best to go garage saleing .. you know what I mean? With something like a feather, I don't want to be wearing it where it can potentially be damaged. When I was a kid my mother would put feathers in my hair and the kids would always try to pull them out. I don't like the idea of my feathers being around people who readily will disrespect them. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Video002-1.flv Last edited by Blackbear; 10-11-2006 at 11:06 PM.

10-07-2006, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
crazywolf crazywolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: unsettled for now, MN Posts: 856 Blog Entries: 5	Why not? Our ancestors used to wear feathers all the time, unless I need to be a little more educated. Anyway if you need to ask where to buy them, its best to just stick to the turkey variety, and you can get those just about anywhere, pow wows, Crazy Crow, ebay, and on and on. Derek

10-09-2006, 10:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
almondeyez81 Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4	I already know that it is illegal to buy or sell eagle feathers.I was never given the chance to recieve real plumes, and I wanted to make my own to wear in my hair and needed to know what feathers can I use to adnorn my hair with.

10-11-2006, 02:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,692	Not many people wear a feather or fluff in their hair or hat; but I've seen them. Nobody blinks an eyelash at a native, who is obviously native that wears a feather or fluff in their hair, hat or ears. The people who I know that often wear them, here in Alaska, and out in the Northwest do so on a regular basis; not a fashion statement or such, it's just who they are and it looks RIGHT on them. I will admit, I do look twice at a white looking person who tries to do the same thing, and I snicker to myself, or roll my eyes up a little. It's a valid question; but I would suggest to think it over well before doing it, not everyone is going to be able to pull it off.

10-11-2006, 10:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
crazywolf crazywolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: unsettled for now, MN Posts: 856 Blog Entries: 5	[quote=Blackbear]Think about it crazy... you're talking about vets. They earned that right.[/QUOTE nods Also, whenever I see someone wearing plumes, that has a light complexion, it just says new age, even if they are wearing regalia. I do not see to many women up north wearing plumes, unless they are associated with a feather, perhaps a small tail feather, and worn upright in the hair. I hardly ever have seen a woman wearing a feather down, except maybe fancy shawl. Derek

10-12-2006, 07:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Eagle Plumes Just Bead it! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MId-West Posts: 10,918	As for me I dont wear hair feathers for everday wear, If I want to dress up I pull out one of my nice beaded barretts, and maybe a necklace. I keep my feathers in their box until its time to pow-wow.