Upstate citizens in NY!!

smoke_dancer_20 · 12-31-2005, 07:53 PM

http://www.upstate-citizens.org/ check out this link people.....and post what you think on this page!!!....the site is full $H!+

Blackbear · 12-31-2005, 10:24 PM

These guys are evil. Plain and simple.. this is the new face of the KKK only instead attacking blacks and jewish people they are attacking indian soveriegnty. Don't let them fool you with their excuse of just wanting non-indians to do the right thing and pay taxes to the state, that is just a ruse. These are truly racist humans with the agenda to have the iroquois assimilated or at the minimum kept from becoming self sufficient.

**sokoki_wolf** · 01-01-2006, 02:15 AM

down right scarey...i loved the history lesson claiming iroquois ppl werent in NY before the 1600's...theres anti-indian groups like these spring up up all over the U.S....

smoke_dancer_20 · 01-02-2006, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sokoki_wolf

down right scarey...i loved the history lesson claiming iroquois ppl werent in NY before the 1600's...theres anti-indian groups like these spring up up all over the U.S....

....LOL...is that where they claim the Iroquois people were living up in montreal oe someplace up there along the st.larence !!!...hehehehe...if they proved this true in court ...i was gonna see if they could help us throw together a land claim to go up against the french people in montreal!!!....LOL....j/k..see if these upstate citizens will help the iroquois and back us up in court and claim that the iroquois really were from montreal!!!!...LOL.....that would never happen!..........i donno what these people are trying to get by doing this kind of thing!!!....LOL..when it comes to goverment vs. government ...it should be THE USA GOVERNMENT vs. THE HADODENOSAUNEE CONFEDERACY......these people from upstate NY vs. the haodenosaunee ...these people fall under the usa government and we (the haodenosaunee confederacy) have our own government system in place!!!....

Blackbear · 01-02-2006, 04:54 AM

Yeah but they see us as US citizens with special rights... not as sovereign nations. They refuse to view us as anything but citizens of New York who should abide by NY laws on our own lands. That's why they are calling themselves citizens for EQUALITY.

**sokoki_wolf** · 01-02-2006, 10:28 AM

lol of course there were mohawk people living at montreal and there still are...selective use of history is all these people are about...they do fail to say that there were aslo iroquois people in PA,all of NY quebec and ontario etc....theres a group like this here in WA,crying that the yakimas arent being "good neighbors" and fair to the surrounding communties because of a power rate increase...what these people in NY are trying to do is tie up land claim issues in lower court so that they cannot be decided in the higher courts...

12-31-2005, 07:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
smoke_dancer_20 yohoh-yo:yanehiyo-ohho-!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ohswe:ge^ "Six Nations rez" Posts: 327	Upstate citizens in NY!! http://www.upstate-citizens.org/ check out this link people.....and post what you think on this page!!!....the site is full $H!+

12-31-2005, 10:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,622	These guys are evil. Plain and simple.. this is the new face of the KKK only instead attacking blacks and jewish people they are attacking indian soveriegnty. Don't let them fool you with their excuse of just wanting non-indians to do the right thing and pay taxes to the state, that is just a ruse. These are truly racist humans with the agenda to have the iroquois assimilated or at the minimum kept from becoming self sufficient. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

01-02-2006, 04:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,622	Yeah but they see us as US citizens with special rights... not as sovereign nations. They refuse to view us as anything but citizens of New York who should abide by NY laws on our own lands. That's why they are calling themselves citizens for EQUALITY. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

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01-01-2006, 02:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
sokoki_wolf Beadworker Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,398	down right scarey...i loved the history lesson claiming iroquois ppl werent in NY before the 1600's...theres anti-indian groups like these spring up up all over the U.S....

01-02-2006, 10:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
sokoki_wolf Beadworker Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,398	lol of course there were mohawk people living at montreal and there still are...selective use of history is all these people are about...they do fail to say that there were aslo iroquois people in PA,all of NY quebec and ontario etc....theres a group like this here in WA,crying that the yakimas arent being "good neighbors" and fair to the surrounding communties because of a power rate increase...what these people in NY are trying to do is tie up land claim issues in lower court so that they cannot be decided in the higher courts...

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