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Old 02-16-2005, 05:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy I want to help.

Hello, i am a white girl from holland. I first of all want to say sorry for what the white people did to al of the American Indians. There isn't a day going by without me thinking of how i can maybe help. But i can't think of anything. I just want to do anything, if i was rich i would buy all the land in america and give it back to the red people. But i am not rich so that is not an option. Does anyone have an idea? I will do anything whitin my power to help.
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Stop Apologizing

You didn't do what you're apologizing for, and since you're still in Europe, what's the likelihood that your ancestors did it?
Some of us are tired of being victims, and every time someone insists on apologizing for what happened, we're once again revictimized.
Want to help? Encourage your government to cut off diplomatic ties with any U.S. or Canadian politician that opposes tribal sovereignty.
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Old 02-17-2005, 06:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ok, i will do that. Thanks for the answer!
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Old 02-17-2005, 08:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello, i am a white girl from holland. I first of all want to say sorry for what the white people did to al of the American Indians. There isn't a day going by without me thinking of how i can maybe help. But i can't think of anything. I just want to do anything, if i was rich i would buy all the land in america and give it back to the red people. But i am not rich so that is not an option. Does anyone have an idea? I will do anything whitin my power to help.
Thats just the way it is.The white people will not stop taking from the american indian.It is very sad the way the indian people are still being treated not only for land but other things.Its so unfair but they get away with it .
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Old 02-17-2005, 12:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You didn't do what you're apologizing for, and since you're still in Europe, what's the likelihood that your ancestors did it?
Some of us are tired of being victims, and every time someone insists on apologizing for what happened, we're once again revictimized.
Want to help? Encourage your government to cut off diplomatic ties with any U.S. or Canadian politician that opposes tribal sovereignty.
Ooh, nice and direct, you don't beat around the bush Badmutha...I'm gonna give you a green box for this post. WW
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You didn't do what you're apologizing for, and since you're still in Europe, what's the likelihood that your ancestors did it?
Some of us are tired of being victims, and every time someone insists on apologizing for what happened, we're once again revictimized.
Want to help? Encourage your government to cut off diplomatic ties with any U.S. or Canadian politician that opposes tribal sovereignty.
If we wish hard enough the heart surgery that Arnold Shytzenegger had will unravel his life and he'll die. This coming from an Indian who is ripping Arnold Shytzenegger off.
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Hello, i am a white girl from holland. I first of all want to say sorry for what the white people did to al of the American Indians. There isn't a day going by without me thinking of how i can maybe help. But i can't think of anything. I just want to do anything, if i was rich i would buy all the land in america and give it back to the red people. But i am not rich so that is not an option. Does anyone have an idea? I will do anything whitin my power to help.
You can start by trying not to pity us... we don't need it.
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Wellllll if you really want to help me, I am only three years into a twenty-year mortgage. So send money. I have no shame. Will take all kinds of donations.
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Wellllll if you really want to help me, I am only three years into a twenty-year mortgage. So send money. I have no shame. Will take all kinds of donations.

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yeah!

I don't know what to say. I am just very sad about how things are, not only in america, but in the whole world. Most people i know, don't care about anything but money. It's hopeless. But i guess it is just a matter of time before people will see. I hope so.
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I don't know what to say. I am just very sad about how things are, not only in america, but in the whole world. Most people i know, don't care about anything but money. It's hopeless. But i guess it is just a matter of time before people will see. I hope so.
Well if you don't care anything about money, you can send me all of yours and I promise I will take really good care of it. Will water it so it grows. Talk to it so it won't get lonely. Maybe even invite BEGs to look at it. EH dude.
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PCPowerCat,
Although I admire your kind heart, your sympathy, and your empathy for the wrongs committed against "Red People", "Original People," "Aboriginal People," "American Indians," "Native Americans" or "NDNs," depending on what label you are comfortable with, there is very little that you can do to "correct," what has happened in the past. There is no need to apologize for something you had no control over or involvement with.

However, I understand your desire to want to help out. That is a very basic human quality, and a very good one to cherish. My best suggestion, is to educate yourself. One of the most difficult situations NDN people face today, is that there are so many stereotypes and mis-understandings about NDN people, the truth frequently gets lost. The best way to "correct" this situation is the become educated.

I might first suggest that you learn about some of the truth concerning NDN Culture. There are many great books available for beginners like yourself, that could give you a quality overall picture. Try locating a book titled:
"The Cultures of Native North America," 2000, Christian F. Feest General Editor, printed by Konemann (ISBN 3-8290-2985-3)

Then you might want to try learning the truth about NDN history as it relates to interaction with the U.S. Government by reading a book titled:
"Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, An Indian History of the American West," 1970, by Dee Brown, printed by Holt, Rinehart, & Winston, Inc., New York City, New York.

Lastly, one of the important things to consider, is that NDN people are not extinct. Although many museums give that impression because their cultural exhibits seem to stop around the 1900 time period, and most of the films from Hollywood only show NDN people in a "historical" setting. Few of them show NDN people in contemporary settings. Try finding good contemporary films such as "Smoke Signals."

The best way for you to help NDN people is to become educated. Learn and pass it on to others.
Good Luck,
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P.S. A good source for books and films is a company called,
Written Heritage
P.O. Box 1390
Folsom, Louisiana 70437
http://www.writtenheritage.com
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