02-04-2005, 05:04 PM
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Ole Heathen
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Ward Churchill and 9/11
http://www.darknightpress.org/index....rint&article=9
Check this out. I'm surprised that no one's brought this up, and I'm sure this jacka$$ will have his apologists. But what he wrote is utterly disgusting. To suggest that the 9/11 victims deserved it is appalling, especially since Mohawks helped build the World Trade Center, and one of the Pentagon victims was Cherokee. At least it's good to see a number of publications and NDNs challenging Churchill's claims of being UKB Cherokee.
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02-04-2005, 10:49 PM
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This message is reprinted under the Fair Use Doctrine of International Copyright Law: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html ************************************************** ************* FROM: INDIANZ.COM NEWS http://64.62.196.98/News/2004/006324.asp Professor Angry At Jodi Rave For Questioning Heritage Thursday, February 3, 2005 Controversial University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill was furious over an article written by Native reporter Jodi Rave Lee that questioned his Indian heritage, The Denver Rocky Mountain News reports. Rave was a student of Churchill's when she was assigned to write a profile. She chose him and confronted him on his claims of having Indian ancestry. She discovered he was enrolled in the United Keetoowah Band of Oklahoma under a program that let almost anyone become a member. Rave said the article angered Churchill. "There's no denying what he writes resonates with a lot of people, but when he says this is something he's experienced as a Native American man, that's fraudulent," she told The Rocky Mountain News. She said her grade in his class went from an A to a C-minus. The UKB eventually stopped the open enrollment program and Churchill is listed as an associate member, but not a full member, because he couldn't show at least 1/4th Cherokee blood. According to various reports, he has claimed Cherokee, Creek, Cree and Metis ancestry. He told The Denver Post he is 3/16th Cherokee. Churchill was due to speak at a New York college but the talk was canceled when controversy erupted for an essay he wrote linking the victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack to Nazis. The Colorado Legislature passed a resolution denouncing him. Churchill stepped down as head of the ethnic studies department on the CU-Boulder campus but remains as a professor. The CU regents said they would not try to fire him. Get the Story: Prof's Indian roots disputed (The Denver Rocky Mountain News 2/3) CU prof affirms Indian heritage (The Denver Post 2/3) Regents won't fire Churchill (The Denver Post 2/3) State lawmakers denounce CU prof (AP 2/2) Text of House resolution on Churchill (AP 2/2) Read the Essay: "Some People Push Back" On the Justice of Roosting Chickens (Pockets of Resistance September 2001) http://www.darknightpress.org/index.php?i=print& article=9 ================================================== ================ FROM: ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS NEWSPAPER http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...RMN_15_3519179 _ARTICLE-DETAIL-PRINT,00.html Prof's Indian Roots Disputed By Stuart Steers, Rocky Mountain News February 3, 2005 The United Keetoowah Band Cherokee says University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill is not a member of their tribe. "He's not in the database at all and is not a member of the Keetoowah," said Georgia Mauldin, the tribal clerk in Tahlequah, Okla. In his books and articles, Churchill has described himself as a member of the Keetoowah Cherokee tribe in Oklahoma. In past interviews, he's claimed to be one-sixteenth Cherokee. But the Keetoowah say that's not true. Attempts to contact Churchill for comment Wednesday on his background were unsuccessful. But Churchill's claim to American Indian roots has been challenged repeatedly by people in that community. One Montana woman has an especially personal tale of confronting Churchill on his claim to American Indian heritage. She was taking one of Churchill's classes at CU in 1994 when she wrote an article for the Colorado Daily newspaper, saying there was no evidence he had any American Indian background. "For so long it was whispered on campus that he really isn't an Indian," said Jodi Rave, who studied journalism at CU. "Here you had the director of the Indian studies program and he's not an Indian." Rave is a Mandan-Hidatsa Indian originally from North Dakota. Today, she is a reporter and columnist with the Missoulian newspaper in Missoula, Mont. She was recently a fellow in the prestigious Nieman program for journalists at Harvard University. In one of her journalism classes at CU, Rave was assigned to write a profile, and she decided to profile Churchill. "To have somebody of that stature masquerading as an Indian was intriguing to me," Rave said. "On two separate days I asked him questions. I was up-front in asking him questions (about his background)." Rave says she discovered that Churchill had enrolled in the Keetoowah tribe under a program initiated by a former tribal chairman that let almost anyone sign up. She says the Keetoowah later discontinued that program and disenrolled the people who had joined under it. When her article came out, Rave says Churchill was furious and insisted that he did have American Indian lineage. "He called me and said, 'Jodi Rave, this is your professor and I need to talk to you right away.' He was surprised I had a story published that called into question his identity." He also defended his American Indian background and said her story was unfair. Rave said she was enrolled in one of Churchill's classes when the article came out, and her grade went from an A to a C-minus. She says Churchill can write what he wants, but his claim of American Indian heritage is bogus. "There's no denying what he writes resonates with a lot of people, but when he says this is something he's experienced as a Native American man, that's fraudulent," Rave said. The question of who is and who is not an American Indian is a sensitive one in that community. Many Indians resent the idea that only those who grew up on a reservation or have two American Indian parents are real Indians. "Tracking blood lines is the business of Nazi Germany and South Africa (under apartheid)," said professor George Tinker, who teaches American Indian culture and religious tradition at the Iliff School of Theology in Denver. "That's not an Indian issue at all." Tinker said that it should be up to the tribes themselves to decide who is an Indian. The United Keetoowah Band Cherokee • The word A-ni-kee-too-wah-gee ("Keetoowah people") was used by Cherokee speakers to refer to themselves. Kituhwa was the mother town of the Cherokees; its location, probably in present- day North Carolina, is now lost in the past. • The Keetoowah Society was formed in 1859 by Cherokees transplanted to Okla- homa on the "Trail of Tears" as a way of preserving cultural traditions. • The United Keetoowah Band is a part of the Tahlequah, Okla.-based Cherokee Nation. It was formed from various Cherokeee subgroups after passage of the Oklahoma Indian Welfare Act in 1936, and it was recognized by Congress in 1949.Source: Www.Cherokeeobserver.Org steerss@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-892-2282 Copyright 2005, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.
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02-05-2005, 06:07 PM
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How about the simple fact that the tribe he says he's from says he's not on the rolls there and neither is none of his ancestors... that's good enough for me to say he's not indian LOL!
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02-05-2005, 07:06 PM
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I heard this speech today, and an interview with him. Sorry MOTS...though he is educated, I don't see him as smart! Hatred is hatred, whether spewed by whites/blacks/ndns/asians/hispanics/christians/muslims/hindus/jews/arabs...or any other, or combination of race/religion/nationality. Though there is much to be angry about..and ashamed of in this nation's, and really almost all of mankind's history...and treatment of each other...I don't see where lumping any and all Americans together as 'deserving to die' is going to remedy any of that. This man sounds like Osama Bin Laden! He says he's part NDN, maybe so...but he's also a larger part white...does he hate himself, or a least the larger part of himself? Freedom of speech is vital...so he's entitled to his beliefs/opinions...but he's also entitled to the consequences of these, like any other American.
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02-06-2005, 01:06 PM
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couldnt have said it any better C.. Good post! BB has a good point too, that if the band that he claims to be apart of are saying he isnt registered nor his ancestors than its Obvious this man is lost in his own Identity, and we all know whats happens to those that follow lost people, they too get lost. Its good that someone had the courage to come out and call him on his shyt, good for the student that exposed him. Good to see more people stand up and take action rather than just talk about the issue and never resolving it. |
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02-06-2005, 02:19 PM
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CSU Controversy
Its interesting that this same university had the controversy of their football coach making discriminating remarks against a female player and they didn't fire him. In fact, they appeared to be supportive.
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02-08-2005, 11:11 PM
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Space Cowboy
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not necessarily my opinion, but thought this needed to be added to the discussion
from the leonard peltier support team newsletter
============================== From the LPDC February 08, 2005 ============================== THE ANTI-AIM TIDE IS RISING All of us who surround those who were involved in AIM since the early 70's have known it was coming, or rather “they” would come for them again. There is no shock in the recent campaign to discredit Ward Churchill. Most of all, we are sure Mr. Churchill himself knew it was coming sooner or later. We are sure Ward is at home asking himself questions such as: why now, what will be gained by disabling me at this time and how will this negatively affect the movement? Most of all, like any good warrior, we hope he finds himself asking how he can make this work for the movement’s benefit. Mr. Churchill has co-authored books which guaranteed he would be attacked by his favorite organization, the FBI. His contributions academically to the Indian movement, whether it be AIM or a generation of like minded thinkers, has been vast. Without books such as Agents of Repression: The FBI’s Secret Wars Against the Black Panther Party and the American Indian Movement and The COINTELPRO Papers: Documents from the FBI’s Secret War Against Dissent in the United States our generate on and those younger would not have a map by which we can predict the government’s response and how they will work to stop Indians being outspoken. Simply put, we firmly believe that many of AIM’s figureheads are modern day Indian heroes. We cannot sit by and watch our government continue to destroy Native Americans. Mr. Churchill’s writings are motivational in a way the government does not appreciate. His writings are critical of the government. We believe any educated Indian would have to agree with his works and themes though not necessarily embrace every point. We believe we need people such as Mr. Churchill who are not afraid to exercise their First Amendment Right of Freedom of Speech. American Indians need to feel free to speak. Please note the newspaper reporters seem to forget how long ago Mr. Churchill wrote the 9/11 piece. It is also important to note how the mainstream press has totally misinterpreted \and misreported Mr. Churchill’s statements and intent. We challenge those who have not read Mr. Churchill to read what he has written and draw their own conclusions and not be swayed by the propaganda being spread by the mainstream media. Our question is why all of a sudden is the press attaching Mr. Churchill for issues which happened more than a year ago? This is not news, these are old issues. We should all be asking ourselves why now. Our belief is, that as we await the results of the John Graham extradition hearing, the United States wishes to raise anti-AIM sentiments hoping to use the John Graham extradition as a vehicle to attack people such as Ward Churchill and Leonard Peltier. We would like to remind the older generation of AIM of allegiance and honor. Don’t forget, years of knowing each other, and years of trying to have Leonard Peltier freed means there is a spider web of relationships which the government is clearly trying to unentangle and frame Leonard as a patsy. We are not saying Anna Mae does not deserve justice. We believe she was a loyal AIM woman and she should be treated as such. We believe that those involved in what happened to her owe her family answers, very soon. We hope her family still believes as she did, in the cause and rights of Indians. Please beware the government will use Anna Mae’s murder, 9/11 and anything else they find inflammatory right now to turn the tide against AIM and against Leonard Peltier. Our phones are tapped, of this we are sure, so the FBI clearly knows lately those at the LPDC have made some great contacts internationally. We assure you they want to turn the tide against Leonard and AIM right now, they must undo all our work, they must keep us down. Remember these guys earn a paycheck to suppress us, we have nothing but pocket lint because it is our lives. But if we do not let the rising anti-AIM tide drown our spirits we can still win. We say good luck Mr. Churchill. We personally like the way you exercise your first amendment rights.
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02-08-2005, 11:18 PM
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i dont see why people are so quick to judge.... maybe that chick was scorned? thx for posting that blackbear..if someone accused me of being white i dont think id prove it... i wouldnt expend the energy... btw i saw john graham walking around here...
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02-08-2005, 11:28 PM
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and.... i bought his book... 'fantasies of the master race" and heard him speak at the under the volcano festival..the native youth movement brought him here..... have you people read any of his books?
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02-09-2005, 10:45 AM
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Ole Heathen
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AIM's just a bunch of useless thugs. Read the accounts of News from Indian Country, then see if you think Leonard Peltier is innocent.
Being that Churchill is the fraud that he is, why wouldn't CU go after him for that? After all, he lied about his credentials. His 9/11 comments shouldn't matter. As for the Peltier apologists, it isn't just the FBI who wants to discredit AIM and Churchill, it's other NDNs.
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