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"...Now the Indians. I call them Indians because that's what they are.
They're Indians. There's nothing wrong with the word Indian." "First of all, it's important to know that the word Indian does not derive from Columbus mistakenly believing he had reached India. India was not even called by that name in 1492, it was known as Hindustan." "More likely, the word Indian comes from Columbus's description of the people he found here. He was an Italian, and did not speak or write very good Spanish, so in his written accounts he called the Indians, 'Una gente in Dios.' A People in God. In God. In Dios, Indians. It's a perfectly noble and respectable word." "As far as calling them 'Americans' is concerned, do I even have to point out what an insult this is? We steal their hemisphere, kill 20 or so million of them, destroy five hundred separate cultures, herd the survivors onto the worst land we can find, and now we want to name them after ourselves? It's appalling! Hven't we done enough damage? Do we have to further degrade them by tagging them with this repulsive name?" "You know, you'd think it would be a fairly simple thing to come over to this continent, commit genocide, eliminate the forests, dam up the rivers, build our malls and massage parlors, sell our blenders and whoopee cushions, poison ourselves with chemicals, and let it go at that. But no. We have to compound the insult." "I'm glad the Indians have gambling casinos now. It makes me happy that people are losing their rent money to the Indians. Maybe then Indians will get lucky and win their country back. Probably they wouldn't want it. Look at what we did to it."
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Columbus never said "In Dios" and if he said it in Spanish it would have been "EN Dios" instead of "IN Dios". This is just one of the many points that is wrong with that myth. Aside from the fact that he parrots an annoying myth that needs to die (now, lol) he makes some good points.
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Yes, George has allways made me laugh.
1 because he uses the truth without the fear of any repercussions. 2 He talks about things that we do naturally all the time, but somehow if we admit it, we are thought of as uncivilized (savage) 3. he talks about the crazy things he thinks about, that most of us think about in general. but fear to vocalize it. You started a great thread. !! |
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GOOD CALL kgirl!! While George Carlin is an excellent comedian ... he is NOT a historian. You're right there are NO DOCUMENTS written by Columbus referring to 'una gente in Dios' that exist.
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At one point about a million years ago it seems, we use to see George Carlin at our college on stage doing his bits for a whopping one dollar bill. Now to see him the tote will cost you 25 to 50 bucks.
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