Older Jingle dancers

nang · 06-10-2007, 12:54 AM

Jingle dancers in their 40s 50s... Do they differ in their regalia from the younger generation?

I would appreciate your comments.
Respectfully,

**WocusWoman** · 06-10-2007, 04:36 AM

I think the dresses I've seen on older jinglers are more traditional and conservative looking.

**WocusWoman** · 06-10-2007, 04:39 AM

I think for the most part their outfits look more traditional and conservative. I like them alot.

nang · 06-10-2007, 02:25 PM

Is it appropriate for older Jingle dancers to still wear a plume or feather upright on the back of the head? I have seen a few older Jingle dancers with their hair only braided without the typical upright plume or feather worn by younger dancers.

I would very much appreciate your comments.

Respectfully,

**ojibwaysweetie** · 06-13-2007, 08:05 AM

Old Stylers, Gramma Style, Traditional Jingle dont wear plumes, etc.

Creewoman05 · 06-13-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ojibwaysweetie

Old Stylers, Gramma Style, Traditional Jingle dont wear plumes, etc.

I saw one of those gramma dancers, wore a white and green regalia, looked awesome! She was at the Burnaby BC powwow in may

firecloud · 06-13-2007, 03:54 PM

SO in your 30's is not so old to Dance Jingle? I guess i always wondered what "old was in the Dance of Jingle" glad someone posted info.

**WocusWoman** · 06-13-2007, 04:45 PM

Most often, no plumes, no hand fans. Sometimes a nice scarf or hankee only in the hand. No hopping, no skipping, no dancing backwards, etc. I love watching most older, traditional jinglers dance.

nang · 06-15-2007, 09:38 AM

Thank you for your comments.

I am still a long distance runner in my lates fifties and can't help it when the endorphins kick in while dancing jingles. I've dancing jingles for more than 20 years. I do not compete .

Would I be criticized if once in a while inadvertely I do a few sutil "younger steps"? It does feel that I am not doing anything wrong. Also, I still wear the plume or an upright feather... Is that inappropriate? Help! I'll be dancing this weekend.

Thanks again

**Kiwehnzii** · 06-15-2007, 10:48 AM

You've danced for 20 years? And... you are asking questions like this?

I don't get it. Well.... maybe I get it, but I just won't say it.

nang · 06-16-2007, 10:56 PM

What bothers you the most? My questions or the fact that I am having a hard time making the transition because I am athletic?

Your bitterness, ignorance, and disrespect makes me think you don't know much about Indian principles. Do you? You have just spoiled the purpose of this web site.

**Kiwehnzii** · 06-16-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nang

Is it appropriate for older Jingle dancers to still wear a plume or feather upright on the back of the head?
Respectfully,

Please, take it easy on me.

I just don't understand why a seasoned jingle dress dancer would be asking a question that one with 20 years experience would probably be passing on to the next generation of dancers.

Could you elaborate? Help me out.

Creewoman05 · 06-17-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii

You've danced for 20 years? And... you are asking questions like this?

I don't get it. Well.... maybe I get it, but I just won't say it.

Ouch....

**WocusWoman** · 06-17-2007, 02:10 AM

I don't know you or your history or personal style. Traditonal style jingle does not include the fancy steps that "fancy shawl" is known for. You can tell the fancy dancers that transition over to jingle very easily. I do not care for these newer moves. If you are that athletic, etc. why not do fancy shawl dancing? It seems to me also, that if you have danced jingle for 20 years, you would have some expertise on this subject by now too. Good luck with your dancing anyhow, and you should be proud of being in good shape at your age.

SuzzeQ4 · 06-17-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WocusWoman

Traditonal style jingle does not include the fancy steps that "fancy shawl" is known for. You can tell the fancy dancers that transition over to jingle very easily.

This is why I am having my daughter (who danced Fancy Shawl until now) dance Woman's Tradish for a year while I make her Jingle dress. I think doing this will help her dance more like a Jingle dress dancer next year rather then dancing like Fancy Shawl wearing a Jingle dress. Some questioned why I told her to do this but seeing what you said about being able to tell which dancers transitioned from Fancy to Jingle makes me know I made the right choice. Plus I think it's good if she knows how to dance Woman's Tradish too.

Anyway maybe a little off topic but so be it.

Suzze

**middle of the sky** · 06-17-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii

06-10-2007, 12:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
nang Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	Older Jingle dancers Jingle dancers in their 40s 50s... Do they differ in their regalia from the younger generation? I would appreciate your comments. Respectfully,

06-10-2007, 02:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
nang Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	Older Jingle dancers Is it appropriate for older Jingle dancers to still wear a plume or feather upright on the back of the head? I have seen a few older Jingle dancers with their hair only braided without the typical upright plume or feather worn by younger dancers. I would very much appreciate your comments. Respectfully,

06-13-2007, 08:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
ojibwaysweetie PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Heart of the Great Lakes, Ontario Canada Posts: 4,981	Old Stylers, Gramma Style, Traditional Jingle dont wear plumes, etc. __________________ "Gaa wiin daa-aangoshkigaazo ahaw enaabiyaan gaa-inaabid"

06-13-2007, 03:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
firecloud LeeLee Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Dakota Posts: 58	SO in your 30's is not so old to Dance Jingle? I guess i always wondered what "old was in the Dance of Jingle" glad someone posted info. __________________

06-15-2007, 09:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
nang Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	Golden age Jingle dancers Thank you for your comments. I am still a long distance runner in my lates fifties and can't help it when the endorphins kick in while dancing jingles. I've dancing jingles for more than 20 years. I do not compete . Would I be criticized if once in a while inadvertely I do a few sutil "younger steps"? It does feel that I am not doing anything wrong. Also, I still wear the plume or an upright feather... Is that inappropriate? Help! I'll be dancing this weekend. Thanks again

06-10-2007, 04:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,727	I think the dresses I've seen on older jinglers are more traditional and conservative looking.

06-10-2007, 04:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,727	I think for the most part their outfits look more traditional and conservative. I like them alot.

06-13-2007, 04:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,727	Most often, no plumes, no hand fans. Sometimes a nice scarf or hankee only in the hand. No hopping, no skipping, no dancing backwards, etc. I love watching most older, traditional jinglers dance.

06-15-2007, 10:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,869	You've danced for 20 years? And... you are asking questions like this? I don't get it. Well.... maybe I get it, but I just won't say it.

06-16-2007, 10:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
nang Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	Golden age Jingle dancers What bothers you the most? My questions or the fact that I am having a hard time making the transition because I am athletic? Your bitterness, ignorance, and disrespect makes me think you don't know much about Indian principles. Do you? You have just spoiled the purpose of this web site.

06-17-2007, 02:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,727	I don't know you or your history or personal style. Traditonal style jingle does not include the fancy steps that "fancy shawl" is known for. You can tell the fancy dancers that transition over to jingle very easily. I do not care for these newer moves. If you are that athletic, etc. why not do fancy shawl dancing? It seems to me also, that if you have danced jingle for 20 years, you would have some expertise on this subject by now too. Good luck with your dancing anyhow, and you should be proud of being in good shape at your age.