How do you sidestep? - Page 2

**MayChe** · 05-30-2002, 11:51 PM

well we dont usually get that many jingle dancers down here except when its a really big competition. From what I've seen, the ones who do the sidestep with their feet flat on the ground come out on top.

Majii · 06-10-2002, 08:53 PM

We get the dancers that dance on their tippy toes up here too.
Mostly the young girls do it, especially if they were fancy shawl berfore they became jingle.
And here too, they come out on top. And the women who keep it real don't even get a chance. I've seen many good dancers who dance the right way and judges prefer the ones who are showy.
I dance in a way that feels right. Not to keep up with what's popular. That way, I don't get disappointed and I have a good time and I don't have to worry about "who's the best"

**TaShunka Luta** · 06-11-2002, 10:41 AM

guess I do things backwards but I used to sidestep with my feet flat on the floor but after seeing who wins most I switched to going up on my tip toes. First time, the day after I could hardly walk my calves were so sore but then after awhile I was used to it. It's harder but I think it does look better if you do it right. Same thing with straight jingle dance, it's changed as well. Seems like more fancy shawl moves without the shawl now. Long time ago this dance wasn't done that way. Everything changes or evolves it seems, even our dances.

Blodge_singa_4_life · 06-12-2002, 02:28 AM

well anyways! i do it on my toes it is a lot easier for me...it is hard for me to dance on my flat feet....because i am soo use of dancen on my toes....so i think it is better on toes.....but hey? thats only me

Selina · 06-12-2002, 02:43 PM

I'm still learning, but it is very hard!
How many stiles are there??
I want to check them all out and then decide on one specific.
:D

native_flutterby · 02-28-2003, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Majii
The side step is a shuffle close to the ground. Traditionally, the feet are not to leave the ground because we are to be connected to mother earth at all times when doing the side step...
The step on the tippy toes is the more contemporary/modern step which, In my opinion should be treated separately, because Jingle dress dancers are to be humble, not to stick out and try to be noticed, because we have a responsibility for healing, that is what the jingle dress is for.

:bouncy: :clap:

my sentiments exactly!

USELI · 02-28-2003, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by eap7
Which way do you like better? Why do you sidestep the way you do?

I do the slide on my tippy toes, why ? Dont know fer sure, just the way that I slide, maybe I like the challenge

Besides I am a fancy shawl dancer, and heck spend most my time on my tippy toes then too !

03-02-2003, 12:18 AM

i go up ....and yeah it does make my muscles hurt but i got a cream for the pain and it goes away...the cream is kinda like bengay....lol

**~*~ShanLyn~*~** · 03-02-2003, 01:58 AM

i dance on my toes, but not like rite on my tip toes, hurts to dance flat for me i dunno.......

blingblingjinglediva · 03-04-2003, 04:11 AM

I think Bejay(thats how Ive seen it spelled on some winners list for some pw but I dunno fo sho)McDaniels does an awesome up on her toes side step but I like Jennifer Hamiltons...shes flat on her feet...never looks tired or like shes showing off. I think a side step shouldnt be all that fancy seeing how it is the dance that it is....I like to keep my feet flat and take small barely noticeble steps to the side with one foot while kinda scootin and draggin along the other....I never get sore or tired...I dont ever show off while side stepping....during a straight song I get pretty fancy...Im a contemp dancer... Anywayz I really like Jennifers way of dancin...she looks good and likes shes havin fun with out tryin.

blingblingjinglediva · 03-04-2003, 04:15 AM

yeah what do you guys think of the arm thing.......Ive seen Yvette and a few teen girls doin it...... I think Yvette can do anything and still look good but what do yall think?Allz I have to say is interesting.......

Nagi · 03-09-2003, 02:42 PM

My daughter's a jingle dress dancer that is still trying to improve her side step and who, on occasion, competes, so this was an interesting discussion for us (I was reading it to her).

She had me vote "still practicing" on the poll, and uses the flat-footed method. She kind of raised an eyebrow at the comparison of the two in terms of winning competitions, though. So did I.

Jingle is such a special dance, it seems kind of odd to us that one would forego the tradition of the dance to win a prize. If flat-footed is traditional, shouldn't the judges be giving extra points to those that dance accordingly?

pueblo_honey · 03-10-2003, 12:37 PM

Well for me, I don't go wayyy up on my tip toes and I can't dance flat, so i'm like in between and some times, I swing my arms, but not that often. Which ever works best for me is what I stick to! :dancer:

quicksilverwade · 03-14-2003, 10:08 PM

I haven't read anybody mentioning the one side step where each leg has a step independent of the other. My sister dances the side step by back swinging the right leg with the beat while her left foot shuffles side to side. All the while keeping balance and being able to glide with the beat of the drum. There must surely be other jingle dress dancers who dance this style.

j_j24 · 03-19-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Czechy
I've been dancing jingle for about 10 years now. I've tried the other variations but like this one: I keep my feet together flat on the ground and make little "scoots". It looks graceful and is not so tiring on my calves.

it does look graceful plus i noticed when a lady does it on there tippy toes their jingles hardly move and when they do it with there feet flat and little scoots their jingles move around more.
don't you think?

Dulasiri · 04-01-2003, 08:11 PM

Hi I just joined this site, Although I've been dancing fancy shawl for over 15 years the gravity that's getting me says switch to jingle, plus I've always loved the style. I've studied dancers and seen many things... can anyone sugest anything or can tell me anything that they would like to share to add to my sucess. I've danced a little but am nervous about getting in the ring yet.

Thanks all and good luck this season!

From the east coast...

~Beth

View Poll Results: How do you sidestep?
I keep my feet together and more flat on the floor.	47	41.96%
I go up on my tip-toes.	25	22.32%
I'm still practicing the sidestep.	19	16.96%
I'm not a jingle dress dancer but thought I'd check out this thread-none of the above.	21	18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

05-30-2002, 11:51 PM	#21 (permalink)
MayChe Minglin' N Jinglin' Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Flo' Da Posts: 1,120	well we dont usually get that many jingle dancers down here except when its a really big competition. From what I've seen, the ones who do the sidestep with their feet flat on the ground come out on top. __________________ Check me out on MySpace: www.myspace.com/mayasbored **~If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all. ~**

06-12-2002, 02:43 PM	#25 (permalink)
Selina freak ;-) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 737	still learning I'm still learning, but it is very hard! How many stiles are there?? I want to check them all out and then decide on one specific. :D __________________ Live each and every day of your life as though it would be your last!

03-02-2003, 01:58 AM	#29 (permalink)
*~~ShanLyn~~* Addy's Mommy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ¤(¯`·._»Pistons Country«_.·´¯)¤ Posts: 4,042	i dance on my toes, but not like rite on my tip toes, hurts to dance flat for me i dunno....... __________________ **~~¤(¯`·._» >The Prettiest People do the Ugliest things <«_.·´¯)¤ ~~**

03-09-2003, 02:42 PM	#32 (permalink)
Nagi Runs with Scissors Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 39	My daughter's a jingle dress dancer that is still trying to improve her side step and who, on occasion, competes, so this was an interesting discussion for us (I was reading it to her). She had me vote "still practicing" on the poll, and uses the flat-footed method. She kind of raised an eyebrow at the comparison of the two in terms of winning competitions, though. So did I. Jingle is such a special dance, it seems kind of odd to us that one would forego the tradition of the dance to win a prize. If flat-footed is traditional, shouldn't the judges be giving extra points to those that dance accordingly? __________________ Be the change you want to happen.

06-10-2002, 08:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
Majii Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 94	We get the dancers that dance on their tippy toes up here too. Mostly the young girls do it, especially if they were fancy shawl berfore they became jingle. And here too, they come out on top. And the women who keep it real don't even get a chance. I've seen many good dancers who dance the right way and judges prefer the ones who are showy. I dance in a way that feels right. Not to keep up with what's popular. That way, I don't get disappointed and I have a good time and I don't have to worry about "who's the best"

06-11-2002, 10:41 AM	#23 (permalink)
TaShunka Luta Not for the Weak & Timid Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In your mind Posts: 4,534	guess I do things backwards but I used to sidestep with my feet flat on the floor but after seeing who wins most I switched to going up on my tip toes. First time, the day after I could hardly walk my calves were so sore but then after awhile I was used to it. It's harder but I think it does look better if you do it right. Same thing with straight jingle dance, it's changed as well. Seems like more fancy shawl moves without the shawl now. Long time ago this dance wasn't done that way. Everything changes or evolves it seems, even our dances.

06-12-2002, 02:28 AM	#24 (permalink)
Blodge_singa_4_life Junior Dancer Join Date: May 2002 Location: United States Posts: 101	well anyways! i do it on my toes it is a lot easier for me...it is hard for me to dance on my flat feet....because i am soo use of dancen on my toes....so i think it is better on toes.....but hey? thats only me

03-02-2003, 12:18 AM	#28 (permalink)
oneidaNmenom Guest Posts: n/a	i go up ....and yeah it does make my muscles hurt but i got a cream for the pain and it goes away...the cream is kinda like bengay....lol

03-04-2003, 04:11 AM	#30 (permalink)
blingblingjinglediva Teen Dancer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 261	I think Bejay(thats how Ive seen it spelled on some winners list for some pw but I dunno fo sho)McDaniels does an awesome up on her toes side step but I like Jennifer Hamiltons...shes flat on her feet...never looks tired or like shes showing off. I think a side step shouldnt be all that fancy seeing how it is the dance that it is....I like to keep my feet flat and take small barely noticeble steps to the side with one foot while kinda scootin and draggin along the other....I never get sore or tired...I dont ever show off while side stepping....during a straight song I get pretty fancy...Im a contemp dancer... Anywayz I really like Jennifers way of dancin...she looks good and likes shes havin fun with out tryin.

03-04-2003, 04:15 AM	#31 (permalink)
blingblingjinglediva Teen Dancer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 261	yeah what do you guys think of the arm thing.......Ive seen Yvette and a few teen girls doin it...... I think Yvette can do anything and still look good but what do yall think?Allz I have to say is interesting.......

03-10-2003, 12:37 PM	#33 (permalink)
pueblo_honey Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SA Pueblo Posts: 39	Well for me, I don't go wayyy up on my tip toes and I can't dance flat, so i'm like in between and some times, I swing my arms, but not that often. Which ever works best for me is what I stick to! :dancer:

03-14-2003, 10:08 PM	#34 (permalink)
quicksilverwade Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of the Deadly San Andreas Fault Posts: 1,555	alternate side step style I haven't read anybody mentioning the one side step where each leg has a step independent of the other. My sister dances the side step by back swinging the right leg with the beat while her left foot shuffles side to side. All the while keeping balance and being able to glide with the beat of the drum. There must surely be other jingle dress dancers who dance this style.

04-01-2003, 08:11 PM	#36 (permalink)
Dulasiri Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York Posts: 12	Hi I just joined this site, Although I've been dancing fancy shawl for over 15 years the gravity that's getting me says switch to jingle, plus I've always loved the style. I've studied dancers and seen many things... can anyone sugest anything or can tell me anything that they would like to share to add to my sucess. I've danced a little but am nervous about getting in the ring yet. Thanks all and good luck this season! From the east coast... ~Beth __________________ ~Beth