Jingles on Dresses

powwow person · 01-23-2005, 12:35 AM

I've noticed there seem to be less jingles on dresses. The dresses are really beautiful but then there is only like 3 rows of jingles and not that many on there. Is this the contemporary style? I was just wondering. What do y'all think?

quicksilverwade · 01-24-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by powwow person

I've noticed there seem to be less jingles on dresses. The dresses are really beautiful but then there is only like 3 rows of jingles and not that many on there. Is this the contemporary style? I was just wondering. What do y'all think?

I would say, yes, it is contemporary style. I also noticed that the tobacco lids are not trimmed down to a distinctive size but instead they're rolled like a blunt.

**MayChe** · 01-24-2005, 10:45 PM

do you think that the less jingles there are on a dress the more meaning of dancing jingle is lost?

red n black cutie · 01-25-2005, 11:43 AM

I don't think so, b/c if you look at pictures of the very first jingle dresses there weren't that many jingles on them and they were very small, like they were rolled around a pencil or something.

this1ndnchic · 01-25-2005, 12:00 PM

I think that a dancer will choose how to make thier dress and dance the way they have been taught or whatever makes them feel good.

Ive seen old pictures of dresses that have minimal jingles on it as well..

NCheyGirl21 · 01-25-2005, 12:47 PM

I've seen it as well..alotta my friends have more of there design on the dress and less jingles..yes the dresses are very beautiful but its like wheres the cones? But I think its also they way they were taught to dance and brought up.

lil_comanche_chick · 01-25-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by this1ndnchic

I think that a dancer will choose how to make thier dress and dance the way they have been taught or whatever makes them feel good.

Ive seen old pictures of dresses that have minimal jingles on it as well..

yeah thats right, but sometimes you should go trdish

this1ndnchic · 01-25-2005, 12:54 PM

Oh you wont catch me in a dress with barely any jingles on it..

thats just not me however those who do thats thier choice nothin wrong with it..everyones different ya kno..

ndnmba · 01-25-2005, 03:27 PM

I think that things like this go in "fads". Remember about 10-12 years ago when people were making dresses that had 100's of jingles. It was all about squeezing as many jingles on your dress as you could. I remember counting 11 rows on one dress. The big applique designs and colors of today will change and evolve, just like any fad.

this1ndnchic · 01-25-2005, 08:01 PM

fads come and go...people do as they please..NEXt lolz..

walkinsoftly · 01-27-2005, 10:09 AM

i remember hearing somewhere along the lines that the dresses with 365 cones on them were for specific purposes and that the whole one cone for every day of the year thing is not the standard for jingle dancing. I think that that may have come from some of the northern ontario jinglers but i can't be sure.

i think what was said is that those dresses were dreamed for a certain healing ceremony and that traditionally there was just one row of jingles around the bottom...come to think of it that part was on the pow wow trail, this documentary/show that was on aptn last year.

Anyone else hear of this?

AngieBuns · 01-27-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by walkinsoftly

i remember hearing somewhere along the lines that the dresses with 365 cones on them were for specific purposes and that the whole one cone for every day of the year thing is not the standard for jingle dancing. I think that that may have come from some of the northern ontario jinglers but i can't be sure.

i think what was said is that those dresses were dreamed for a certain healing ceremony and that traditionally there was just one row of jingles around the bottom...come to think of it that part was on the pow wow trail, this documentary/show that was on aptn last year.

Anyone else hear of this?

Yes I have heard of that as well, but missed the show you where talking about on APTN. Ahh well, all work and no play makes me a dull girl

lil_comanche_chick · 01-27-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by walkinsoftly

i remember hearing somewhere along the lines that the dresses with 365 cones on them were for specific purposes and that the whole one cone for every day of the year thing is not the standard for jingle dancing. I think that that may have come from some of the northern ontario jinglers but i can't be sure.

i think what was said is that those dresses were dreamed for a certain healing ceremony and that traditionally there was just one row of jingles around the bottom...come to think of it that part was on the pow wow trail, this documentary/show that was on aptn last year.

Anyone else hear of this?

thats right, originally some old man(i think)had a dream(or vision)of a woman in this dress that 365 cones on for every day of the year.she danced for this old sickly man/woman.and the next day that person was feelin better than he/she did the day before.

thats what my mom, and g*ma told me.

ErizonVoyce · 01-27-2005, 01:10 PM

Hmmm I Fink Im Old Style Jingle...Yeah Itz Ben Awhile...LOL

Newaez Mah Current Dress...Has Like 411 Conez...N Thas Includun A Cape...It Has 4 Rowz Of Conez...2 ZigZagz...N 2 Straight Linez...Itz Purdy Heavy...Buh It Soundz Reel Nyce!

quicksilverwade · 01-27-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by walkinsoftly

i remember hearing somewhere along the lines that the dresses with 365 cones on them were for specific purposes and that the whole one cone for every day of the year thing is not the standard for jingle dancing. I think that that may have come from some of the northern ontario jinglers but i can't be sure.

i think what was said is that those dresses were dreamed for a certain healing ceremony and that traditionally there was just one row of jingles around the bottom...come to think of it that part was on the pow wow trail, this documentary/show that was on aptn last year.

Anyone else hear of this?

There was a thread about this a while back and if I'm correct the Ojibway say that this is not a valid reason for the amount of cones. But, I'd rather wait until a bonafide Ojibway jingler says it is so.

01-23-2005, 12:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
powwow person Senior Dancer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: native america Posts: 577	Jingles on Dresses I've noticed there seem to be less jingles on dresses. The dresses are really beautiful but then there is only like 3 rows of jingles and not that many on there. Is this the contemporary style? I was just wondering. What do y'all think?

01-24-2005, 10:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
MayChe Minglin' N Jinglin' Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Flo' Da Posts: 1,120	do you think that the less jingles there are on a dress the more meaning of dancing jingle is lost? __________________ Check me out on MySpace: www.myspace.com/mayasbored **~If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all. ~**

01-25-2005, 12:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
this1ndnchic ~Coastal Steps~ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ~~Seattle area~* Posts: 939	I think that a dancer will choose how to make thier dress and dance the way they have been taught or whatever makes them feel good. Ive seen old pictures of dresses that have minimal jingles on it as well.. __________________ (¯`·._.·`CeDaR RoSe`·._.·´¯)

01-25-2005, 12:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
this1ndnchic ~Coastal Steps~ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ~~Seattle area~* Posts: 939	Oh you wont catch me in a dress with barely any jingles on it.. thats just not me however those who do thats thier choice nothin wrong with it..everyones different ya kno.. __________________ (¯`·._.·`CeDaR RoSe`·._.·´¯)

01-25-2005, 08:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
this1ndnchic ~Coastal Steps~ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ~~Seattle area~* Posts: 939	fads come and go...people do as they please..NEXt lolz.. __________________ (¯`·._.·`CeDaR RoSe`·._.·´¯)

01-25-2005, 11:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
red n black cutie Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Omaha Posts: 49	I don't think so, b/c if you look at pictures of the very first jingle dresses there weren't that many jingles on them and they were very small, like they were rolled around a pencil or something.

01-25-2005, 12:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
NCheyGirl21 Wife To A Marine Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 675 Blog Entries: 2	I've seen it as well..alotta my friends have more of there design on the dress and less jingles..yes the dresses are very beautiful but its like wheres the cones? But I think its also they way they were taught to dance and brought up.

01-25-2005, 03:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
ndnmba Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 244	I think that things like this go in "fads". Remember about 10-12 years ago when people were making dresses that had 100's of jingles. It was all about squeezing as many jingles on your dress as you could. I remember counting 11 rows on one dress. The big applique designs and colors of today will change and evolve, just like any fad.

01-27-2005, 10:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
walkinsoftly Pow Wow Dancer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 17	i remember hearing somewhere along the lines that the dresses with 365 cones on them were for specific purposes and that the whole one cone for every day of the year thing is not the standard for jingle dancing. I think that that may have come from some of the northern ontario jinglers but i can't be sure. i think what was said is that those dresses were dreamed for a certain healing ceremony and that traditionally there was just one row of jingles around the bottom...come to think of it that part was on the pow wow trail, this documentary/show that was on aptn last year. Anyone else hear of this?

01-27-2005, 01:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
ErizonVoyce Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: OnTaRiO Posts: 20	Hmmm I Fink Im Old Style Jingle...Yeah Itz Ben Awhile...LOL Newaez Mah Current Dress...Has Like 411 Conez...N Thas Includun A Cape...It Has 4 Rowz Of Conez...2 ZigZagz...N 2 Straight Linez...Itz Purdy Heavy...Buh It Soundz Reel Nyce! __________________ <<<<<>>>>> ~Tha Powwow Trail. Live It. Luv It. Keep It REAL!~ <<<<<>>>>>