crow hop poll - Page 2

**~*~ShanLyn~*~** · 03-21-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by o_styo_jngl
I crow hop as a jingle dress dancer...but my style is very similar to double beat. I won't tell you when i "double beat" b-cuz if i do ppl would take my style and lay claim to it. This way came to me in a dream so it has alot of meaning for me....so if you have seen it and u know what i'm talking about and you start to see someone else do it plz know that it originated here....thanx

Hey girl, i seen you at the skydome, i like ur style, real unique, keep on doin what u do gurl :Thumbs

**~*~ShanLyn~*~** · 03-21-2003, 05:30 PM

but as for dancing crow hop....i dunno jus dont feel right while dancin jingle........thats jus what i think......i'll dance it when its durin an intertribal or like Mike said if its durin a grand entry like that....but not all jumpy n all over the place like a fancy shawl dancer

newho.....enuf rambling.....:blow:

beefy_cheefy · 03-21-2003, 05:43 PM

well, this is a great issue, ...one time i was at a powwow and there were only three jingle dancers, and we were in crow country.....so we wanted a double beat crow hop... this was me, vestal and some older lady,,, i think...it doesnt matter...i wouldnt care if they gave us a crow hop..but only as long as its a double beat....i love dancin to crow hops...i think they should stick with giving the other single beat crow hop to fancy dancers...but they can give us a double beat and i think i can jam it...

beefy_cheefy · 03-21-2003, 05:46 PM

oh have any of you crows seen the way the ladies fancy dance to double beats ..over here in the mid west ..man it looks wack...they dance like they are traditional dancin ...marilyn needs to come over here and show them how it's done....

03-22-2003, 10:34 AM

its not meant for jingle dancers but its fun to do....i would do it anyway as long as its all good...who cares what peoples opinions are at the powwows...whats good of a powwow is you cant enjoy it ya know?

**rkbtmeyb** · 03-24-2003, 11:08 AM

ha ha ha! LOL:Eyebrows

jingle? dancing to a crow hop?

thats not right.

**jingle genie** · 03-24-2003, 04:29 PM

i thought it was more of a scoot then a crow hop... i think it's alright... mama always told me to be a true Champion, you have to be able to dance to everything... ;)

beefy_cheefy · 04-02-2003, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by jingle genie
i thought it was more of a scoot then a crow hop... i think it's alright... mama always told me to be a true Champion, you have to be able to dance to everything... ;)

RIGHT ON!!! That's what momma always told me too!!

DancingCreek · 09-03-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jingle genie

mama always told me to be a true Champion, you have to be able to dance to everything... ;)

I agree....
but there is a reason for catogories.

For example....
I used to show horses. I could only afford one horse, but he was very vesitale...barrels, western pleasure, rope, etc.
But, I didn't run barrels during the western pleasure event.

And, you wouldn't play basketball with a football....would you?

Not to metion that the jingle is a prayer dress/dance.
It has its own specfic steps for a reason.

It is good to be a well rounded dancer and to know different styles of dancing....
but I don't think you should crow hop in your jingle dress.

kiiyaaniiasdzaa · 09-08-2005, 08:08 PM

I have done it once wearing my jingle dress for an exhibition. I was asked by a crow friend of mine from the OldHorn family. This is the only time I have done crow hop with my jingle dress on.

NCheyGirl21 · 09-15-2005, 11:32 AM

as a jingle dancer, I have tried the crow hop but it just doesn't feel comfortable doing it, it just does not feel right at all. I like much better when I dance fancy shawl.

xox_jingledancer_xox · 09-15-2005, 12:25 PM

I love doin the double-beat...I think it's cool when jinglers get a double-beat song...but that doesn't mean that the dancers have to pull out some wicked fancy dance moves...just flow

MissFancyChick · 09-15-2005, 06:19 PM

i think that a crow hop looks best with Fancy's... I think that a jingler should know how, just in case... if you dont know what youre doing, it looks bad...

I have had to dance OUT of my catagory a few times... like ive had to do a round dance with my fancy on... things like that... i try to learn all the dances... even men's songs... never know when they'll have a switch dance !!!

oh yeah... and i dont think if there is a CROWHOP that a jingler shouldnt do a dbl beat... there isnt the half beat in there... they look off, to me anyways...

Tradish buckskin dancers look awesome doing a dbl beat !!! JUST AWESOME!!

m3tas0nyao95o · 02-23-2006, 11:01 PM

ok please no one take this as like being a smart azz or anything but, i don't understand the meaning behind this question. Why WOULDN'T a jingle dress dancer be able to do the crow hop?

in personal opinion of how i'm viewing this question being asked, i think anyone should be able to dance the crow hop. but then again to some people that may be like telling a traditional dancer to do fancy shawl.

like i said before i'm just not seeing why a jingle dress dancer WOULDN'T be able to dance a crow hop. can someone PLEASE explain this to me?

JinglinBooty · 03-07-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by m3tas0nyao95o

ok please no one take this as like being a smart azz or anything but, i don't understand the meaning behind this question. Why WOULDN'T a jingle dress dancer be able to do the crow hop?

ok...the bottom of my skirt is not designed to flair (like the fancy shawl skirts). Because it is designed this way, I have limited leg movement. It is another reason why you always see jingle dancers taking very small steps when they are "running" up to receive prize money...so we don't fall flat on our faces as our legs trips on our skirts.

Now that you have that image..now you know the reason why jingle dancers does NOT dance double beat crow hops, too!

morningstar · 03-10-2006, 09:56 PM

I agree, the crow hop is traditionally for fancy shawl not jingle. I personally wouldn't dance the crow hop in my jingle dress. I know elders who have spoken to young dancers for dancing the crow hop in their jingle dresses. So many young dancers change regalia at pow wow for max. dancing fun. Disrepecting isn't cool!

View Poll Results: What do you think about jingle dancers dancig the crow hop?
I think it should be left to the fancy shawl dancers.	103	60.23%
I see it done all the time, no problem with it as far as I'm concerned.	47	27.49%
I see it done, but I wouldn't dance it.	14	8.19%
Crow hop??????? What's a crow hop?????	7	4.09%
Voters: 171. You may not vote on this poll

03-21-2003, 05:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
*~~ShanLyn~~* Addy's Mommy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ¤(¯`·._»Pistons Country«_.·´¯)¤ Posts: 4,042	but as for dancing crow hop....i dunno jus dont feel right while dancin jingle........thats jus what i think......i'll dance it when its durin an intertribal or like Mike said if its durin a grand entry like that....but not all jumpy n all over the place like a fancy shawl dancer newho.....enuf rambling.....:blow: __________________ **~~¤(¯`·._» >The Prettiest People do the Ugliest things <«_.·´¯)¤ ~~**

03-24-2003, 11:08 AM	#26 (permalink)
rkbtmeyb Leg Wrestling Champ! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: just fine where im at Posts: 4,988	ha ha ha! LOL:Eyebrows jingle? dancing to a crow hop? thats not right. __________________ Mens inhumanity to each other is surpassed ONLY by what women do to each other. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Quote: "I blame it on my youngnessness..." BTH DEATH TO ALL LURKERS!!!! ME

09-08-2005, 08:08 PM	#30 (permalink)
kiiyaaniiasdzaa Jing-a-ling Shook-shook Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 434	crow hop I have done it once wearing my jingle dress for an exhibition. I was asked by a crow friend of mine from the OldHorn family. This is the only time I have done crow hop with my jingle dress on. Last edited by kiiyaaniiasdzaa; 09-08-2005 at 08:08 PM. Reason: sp?

09-15-2005, 06:19 PM	#33 (permalink)
MissFancyChick Fancy Schmancy Dancer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: formerly in Seattle, now i live in Eastern Washington on the Colville Rez Posts: 219	CrowHoppin Jingles i think that a crow hop looks best with Fancy's... I think that a jingler should know how, just in case... if you dont know what youre doing, it looks bad... I have had to dance OUT of my catagory a few times... like ive had to do a round dance with my fancy on... things like that... i try to learn all the dances... even men's songs... never know when they'll have a switch dance !!! oh yeah... and i dont think if there is a CROWHOP that a jingler shouldnt do a dbl beat... there isnt the half beat in there... they look off, to me anyways... Tradish buckskin dancers look awesome doing a dbl beat !!! JUST AWESOME!! __________________ Love the Dance... Feel the Drum

03-21-2003, 05:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
beefy_cheefy Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 129	well, this is a great issue, ...one time i was at a powwow and there were only three jingle dancers, and we were in crow country.....so we wanted a double beat crow hop... this was me, vestal and some older lady,,, i think...it doesnt matter...i wouldnt care if they gave us a crow hop..but only as long as its a double beat....i love dancin to crow hops...i think they should stick with giving the other single beat crow hop to fancy dancers...but they can give us a double beat and i think i can jam it...

03-21-2003, 05:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
beefy_cheefy Junior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 129	oh have any of you crows seen the way the ladies fancy dance to double beats ..over here in the mid west ..man it looks wack...they dance like they are traditional dancin ...marilyn needs to come over here and show them how it's done....

03-22-2003, 10:34 AM	#25 (permalink)
hidatsachic24 Guest Posts: n/a	its not meant for jingle dancers but its fun to do....i would do it anyway as long as its all good...who cares what peoples opinions are at the powwows...whats good of a powwow is you cant enjoy it ya know?

03-24-2003, 04:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
jingle genie SpOnGeNoNeR RoUndPaNt'Z Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: CALI Posts: 3,942	i thought it was more of a scoot then a crow hop... i think it's alright... mama always told me to be a true Champion, you have to be able to dance to everything... ;)

09-15-2005, 11:32 AM	#31 (permalink)
NCheyGirl21 Wife To A Marine Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 675 Blog Entries: 2	as a jingle dancer, I have tried the crow hop but it just doesn't feel comfortable doing it, it just does not feel right at all. I like much better when I dance fancy shawl.

09-15-2005, 12:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
xox_jingledancer_xox Blackfeet Jingler Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Browntown Posts: 6	I love doin the double-beat...I think it's cool when jinglers get a double-beat song...but that doesn't mean that the dancers have to pull out some wicked fancy dance moves...just flow

02-23-2006, 11:01 PM	#34 (permalink)
m3tas0nyao95o JDD/FSD Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Greenville, NH Posts: 4	ok please no one take this as like being a smart azz or anything but, i don't understand the meaning behind this question. Why WOULDN'T a jingle dress dancer be able to do the crow hop? in personal opinion of how i'm viewing this question being asked, i think anyone should be able to dance the crow hop. but then again to some people that may be like telling a traditional dancer to do fancy shawl. like i said before i'm just not seeing why a jingle dress dancer WOULDN'T be able to dance a crow hop. can someone PLEASE explain this to me?

03-10-2006, 09:56 PM	#36 (permalink)
morningstar Junior Dancer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northland of MN Posts: 176	I agree, the crow hop is traditionally for fancy shawl not jingle. I personally wouldn't dance the crow hop in my jingle dress. I know elders who have spoken to young dancers for dancing the crow hop in their jingle dresses. So many young dancers change regalia at pow wow for max. dancing fun. Disrepecting isn't cool! __________________ Sometimes dreams are wiser than waking. -Black Elk Last edited by morningstar; 03-10-2006 at 10:03 PM.