help!to sit or not

lakotajingledancer · 08-07-2003, 02:32 PM

what do u guys think?do you sit on your jingles w/a pillow underneath or do you pull up your skirt?i was taught that it is trashy to pull up your skirt & show a bunch of leg,but ive also been told not to sit on the cones even though they are cushioned.

i was taught the lakota way and i am also aware that the dress came from the ojibwe ppl and i need to respect the dress by thier standards b/c im wearing their dress.

**Jibby™** · 08-07-2003, 02:45 PM

It's not good practice to sit on your jingles. Nor to show what your mama gave you. I find it extremely disrespectful when a woman lets her legs hang out all over the dang place.

There are three options:

a) Make a slip to wear under your dress for when you pull it up. It's also good to put a row or two of cones on the bottom to keep the slip weighed down.

b) Simply place a blanket, shawl, snag's drum contest jacket over your exposed legs.

c) Don't dance Jingle.

Destined to be alone · 08-07-2003, 05:02 PM

dbl fabric (nylon under)and pull it up.Outtie:Angel2

08-08-2003, 10:38 AM

well i always pull up my dress and never sit on the cones...heres what i do...i be careful on pulling up my dress...usually i never have problems and never show leg ...i was taught same way that you only show leg to your husband....if your still having problems see if you can have yar momma help you maybe she can hold a blanket infront of you while you try to pull up your dress and straighten out your underskirt -becca

**MayChe** · 08-08-2003, 06:50 PM

i pull up my dress too. sitting on the cones is not comfortable and if you are a certain weight, you can crush the cones. my dresses don't have an underskirt so I wear some capris or some stretch pants under my dress.

Singing Otter · 08-08-2003, 11:56 PM

Mine have underskirts but even then I'll wear a pair of lycra/spandex leggings. It gets hella hot during the summer but I don't like watching dancer's dresses move up and seeing leg and thigh... that's just me I guess. I don't sit on my cones. The dress I'm working on now doesn't have an underskirt but i'm going to make a pair of coordinating loose pants (rubber in the waist) to wear underneath.

~+~Heya~+~ · 08-11-2003, 02:50 PM

NEVER sit on your cones! Put a underskirt or make one to go under all your dresses. The way I pull my skirt up is to "pinch" the underskirt between my knees while pulling the overskirt up. That way it doesn't ride up while hiking the other one up.

softwind · 08-29-2003, 10:38 AM

I think underskirts look the best. Or you can always wear shorts. :) Once I had a full slip made and jingles added on at the very end of the slip it was made out of calico flower material that way durring breaks I could come out of my dress with out having to get fully undressed and be cool and comfortable. Actully it was like a tank sun dress. Very cute.

nimkiikwe_49 · 09-07-2003, 04:01 AM

I sit on the edge of my chair, just lifting up a row of jingles
that seems to work so far.....

**bahnisiain** · 09-07-2003, 05:34 PM

i am not a jingle dancer, what i have seen jingle dancers do is to wear shorts or the like underneath and to pull up the shirt.

powwow_jingle · 09-09-2003, 12:44 AM

I have been dancing jingle over 13+ years and I have tried all the suggestions recommended. I prefer 2 different ways, either a skirt sown under the dress (cotton) so it's not too thick or I either buy me some running pants which are very tight around the leg and it would be as comparible to a skirt sewn underneath as far as heat goes. I see some people with a pair of spandex shorts on and their leg showing and I don't really care to see that.

Morningstar Singer · 09-09-2003, 01:14 AM

My girls were taught the Lakota way of some of the older folks, of not lifting the dress no matter what is underneath. It is not lady like.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that they are prudes or controlling or what ever you might think. They have the girls welfare and reputation in mind. Just want to protect them and to try to teach modesty. I for one find it refreshing since there is so much to the opposite out there. Seems the girls need some teaching.

eagleclan22 · 09-09-2003, 04:44 PM

thats why these dresses are upposed to have the underskirt in all the time... I live in Oji country and I never see anyone without em.

~+~Heya~+~ · 09-10-2003, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by Morningstar Singer
My girls were taught the Lakota way of some of the older folks, of not lifting the dress no matter what is underneath. It is not lady like.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that they are prudes or controlling or what ever you might think. They have the girls welfare and reputation in mind. Just want to protect them and to try to teach modesty. I for one find it refreshing since there is so much to the opposite out there. Seems the girls need some teaching.

So if they don't lift thier dresses up then how do they sit down?

Morningstar Singer · 09-10-2003, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by ~+~Heyadancer~+~
So if they don't lift thier dresses up then how do they sit down?

They sit on a big foam pillow. That cushions the cones from being flattened.

And even with an underskirt it is considered to be lacking in modesty to lift your dress up, and in public no less. :Blush

~+~Heya~+~ · 09-10-2003, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Morningstar Singer
They sit on a big foam pillow. That cushions the cones from being flattened.

And even with an underskirt it is considered to be lacking in modesty to lift your dress up, and in public no less. :Blush

Yeah...but don't you think its disrespectful to the dress to be sitting on the cones?

Plus, thats the way its been done since the dress came around, with the underskirt and lifting it up to sit down

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08-07-2003, 02:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
lakotajingledancer ~I wanna pow-wow~ Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 288	help!to sit or not what do u guys think?do you sit on your jingles w/a pillow underneath or do you pull up your skirt?i was taught that it is trashy to pull up your skirt & show a bunch of leg,but ive also been told not to sit on the cones even though they are cushioned. i was taught the lakota way and i am also aware that the dress came from the ojibwe ppl and i need to respect the dress by thier standards b/c im wearing their dress. __________________ who lives in a pineapple under the sea? man i wish it was me!

08-07-2003, 02:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jibby™ NDNBUNZ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: BABYLON HATE MACHINE Posts: 2,094	It's not good practice to sit on your jingles. Nor to show what your mama gave you. I find it extremely disrespectful when a woman lets her legs hang out all over the dang place. There are three options: a) Make a slip to wear under your dress for when you pull it up. It's also good to put a row or two of cones on the bottom to keep the slip weighed down. b) Simply place a blanket, shawl, snag's drum contest jacket over your exposed legs. c) Don't dance Jingle. __________________ Got percap?

08-08-2003, 06:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
MayChe Minglin' N Jinglin' Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Flo' Da Posts: 1,120	i pull up my dress too. sitting on the cones is not comfortable and if you are a certain weight, you can crush the cones. my dresses don't have an underskirt so I wear some capris or some stretch pants under my dress. __________________ Check me out on MySpace: www.myspace.com/mayasbored **~If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all. ~**

08-08-2003, 11:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Singing Otter Gotz ta be me! Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,392 Blog Entries: 1	Mine have underskirts but even then I'll wear a pair of lycra/spandex leggings. It gets hella hot during the summer but I don't like watching dancer's dresses move up and seeing leg and thigh... that's just me I guess. I don't sit on my cones. The dress I'm working on now doesn't have an underskirt but i'm going to make a pair of coordinating loose pants (rubber in the waist) to wear underneath. __________________ Cowboy wisdom: A thong is like a barb wire fence, it protects the property without blocking the view.

08-07-2003, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Destined to be alone Shadow Lurker Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153	dbl fabric (nylon under)and pull it up.Outtie:Angel2

08-08-2003, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
hidatsawmn26 Guest Posts: n/a	well i always pull up my dress and never sit on the cones...heres what i do...i be careful on pulling up my dress...usually i never have problems and never show leg ...i was taught same way that you only show leg to your husband....if your still having problems see if you can have yar momma help you maybe she can hold a blanket infront of you while you try to pull up your dress and straighten out your underskirt -becca

08-11-2003, 02:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
~+~Heya~+~ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MN Posts: 770	NEVER sit on your cones! Put a underskirt or make one to go under all your dresses. The way I pull my skirt up is to "pinch" the underskirt between my knees while pulling the overskirt up. That way it doesn't ride up while hiking the other one up.

08-29-2003, 10:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
softwind Jingle Dancer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: NC Posts: 329	I think underskirts look the best. Or you can always wear shorts. :) Once I had a full slip made and jingles added on at the very end of the slip it was made out of calico flower material that way durring breaks I could come out of my dress with out having to get fully undressed and be cool and comfortable. Actully it was like a tank sun dress. Very cute. __________________ SoftWind

09-07-2003, 04:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
nimkiikwe_49 naturally noble Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 262	I sit on the edge of my chair, just lifting up a row of jingles that seems to work so far..... __________________ Miigwetch all's fair in love and pow wow.... see ya around

09-07-2003, 05:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
bahnisiain Eastern Blanket Dancer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CT Posts: 1,798 Blog Entries: 2	i am not a jingle dancer, what i have seen jingle dancers do is to wear shorts or the like underneath and to pull up the shirt. __________________ Bahnisiain www.myspace.com/bahnisiain

09-09-2003, 12:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
powwow_jingle Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 20	to sit or not.... I have been dancing jingle over 13+ years and I have tried all the suggestions recommended. I prefer 2 different ways, either a skirt sown under the dress (cotton) so it's not too thick or I either buy me some running pants which are very tight around the leg and it would be as comparible to a skirt sewn underneath as far as heat goes. I see some people with a pair of spandex shorts on and their leg showing and I don't really care to see that. __________________ ~~~Indian by nature Proud by choice ~~~ :indian2: ... Colville Confederated Tribes ....

09-09-2003, 01:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Morningstar Singer Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: PowWow Country Posts: 59	My girls were taught the Lakota way of some of the older folks, of not lifting the dress no matter what is underneath. It is not lady like. Don't get me wrong, it's not that they are prudes or controlling or what ever you might think. They have the girls welfare and reputation in mind. Just want to protect them and to try to teach modesty. I for one find it refreshing since there is so much to the opposite out there. Seems the girls need some teaching.

09-09-2003, 04:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
eagleclan22 Breath Inspector Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sagkeeng First Nation Posts: 317	thats why these dresses are upposed to have the underskirt in all the time... I live in Oji country and I never see anyone without em. __________________ NO MY EYES REALLY DONT LOOK LIKE THAT........ THATS ME AS A BRATZ DOLL ;) http://pages.ivillage.com/sagkeengpowwow2003/ Some guys are good with their drum sticks.... and some just arent...:karate: