dancing style complaints

07-15-2003, 12:40 PM

well heres a topic to discuss about...
has any of you ever been stopped by younger people who say that you dont dance right? i had a friend who danced old style no fancy moves and she was taught that way....couple of time she was approached by couple of youngees who danced fancier and said she doesnt dance right....as jingle dancers we are taught many things and that even not everybody dances the same way...what right does some people have to tell someone that they dont dance right?whats yar thoughts on this topic?-becca

quicksilverwade · 07-15-2003, 01:31 PM

I suggest you reveal their names so that the future generations will never follow their mistakes!

The Rat · 07-15-2003, 01:34 PM

I've seen it happen a lot with young male (and sometimes older) traditional dancers. These guys jump around, spin in full circles, run across the arena, etc. It's almost like they want to be fancy dancers but they're too lazy to make a second bustle

JDD 4 life · 07-15-2003, 03:35 PM

well i think that people have their own styles of dancing and not everyboy will like it but they have no right to tell anyone anything because everyone has their own style. people try to say things about contemporary dancing too, but if we still lived and did things how we used to in the older days then it would be different, but we dont, the world is changing along with pow wows and "tradition." all i know is we all have our own way of dancing.

nimkiikwe_49 · 07-15-2003, 05:33 PM

WHOA... no that has never happend to me, I think I'd cry....

quicksilverwade · 07-15-2003, 06:10 PM

I really think the culprit to blame on all of this holliganism would have to be the effect of those hideous neon colors. I'd like to propose a secondary division for contests called non-traditional neon flash dancing!

traditional dancer · 07-15-2003, 07:08 PM

I don't think anyone has the right to say "you're not dancing right", but I do think that old-style should have their own category, fancy, jingle, grass, whatever

07-16-2003, 10:38 AM

your right about that one...tradish jingle should be the name of the catagory...hmm maybe that could be not a very good name...
personally never been confronted exactly like that one of my friends have here in toledo but been confronted in similiar way...its wrong....but personally this fake wannabe lady
her name is dianna moore...found out shes a total liar...she a jingle dancer who says shes from canada and shes been in boarding school...now that b.s. cuz boarding school has been closed down for yrs. now...shes in her late 30's i think and found out shes from cinncinnatti..
she says she follows by anishnabe ways but she doesnt been to her moon ceremony before and its lakota based tradition...her teachings are lakota based ....but i was dancing at toledo powwow and the woman had the nerve to grab my arm and sayd this is a healing dress...basically saying i dont have the right to dance jingle...i was so upset i started crying.... told my momma when i got home and she was pissed off big time..well what gets me is that people who say that usually sometimes arent what they appear to be...well dianna apparently holds the jingle dancing as sacred when she dont even follow by it...she takes money...becca

07-16-2003, 10:46 AM

quciksilverwade,
i normally dont like giveing names out especially of my friends on-line...with dianna who isnt a friend of mine i make an acception cuz people should know about her just incase they get invited to one of her swets...and to know its all for show what she does..-becca

quicksilverwade · 07-16-2003, 02:01 PM

I understand Hidatsachic about having second thoughts about bringing a person out on the internet but since the powwow world is a small world. Just by naming a person like Dianna Moore there are others who can research this person's background just by asking the elders who may have some type of knowledge about this person. And since I'm from Crow Creek South Dakota, I can ask my mother or call my cousins and ask "what do you know about Dianna Moore?". Who knows maybe I'm related to her, lol.

superndngyrl · 07-16-2003, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by quicksilverwade
I really think the culprit to blame on all of this holliganism would have to be the effect of those hideous neon colors. I'd like to propose a secondary division for contests called non-traditional neon flash dancing!

LMAO thats too funny.... "non-traditional neon flash dancing"

**tradish_wiyan** · 07-16-2003, 02:52 PM

Gee, I don't know how I would react to anyone telling me that I was dancing wrong. There was a good point someone brought up...making an "old style" or "original style" category for the styles of dancing. More and more, I see a chicken dance category for chicken dancers. A majority of the regalia is the old style, but there are grass dancers who go out there and chicken dance in this category...so I dunno if that would be a possibility.

As far as putting names on the net, the powwow world is quite small, and if this Moore person is offending people, we should know about it. There is nothing more annoying than a person coming right out and telling you that what you are doing is wrong. There is a "good way" to approach a person (invite them to your camp for dinner, offer a gift in exchange for some words of advise etc...) Just my two cents...AW MAN, now I am broke!!!:Tongue

**MayChe** · 07-16-2003, 05:34 PM

I think some ppl say that also becuz they've never seen it b4. I know that wehen I did old style down here, ppl were asking what I was doing and how come I wasn't using a fan.

o_styo_jngl · 07-17-2003, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by JDD 4 life
well i think that people have their own styles of dancing and not everyboy will like it but they have no right to tell anyone anything because everyone has their own style. people try to say things about contemporary dancing too, but if we still lived and did things how we used to in the older days then it would be different, but we dont, the world is changing along with pow wows and "tradition." all i know is we all have our own way of dancing.

AMEN~!~!~!

**Jinglin Chica** · 07-17-2003, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by superndngyrl
LMAO thats too funny.... "non-traditional neon flash dancing"

that IS too funny!

quicksilverwade · 07-17-2003, 05:02 PM

Now maybe these neon flash dancers will get the message. We should adhere to colors that are easy on the eye. We don't need colors to get the judges attention!

07-15-2003, 12:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
hidatsachic24 Guest Posts: n/a	dancing style complaints well heres a topic to discuss about... has any of you ever been stopped by younger people who say that you dont dance right? i had a friend who danced old style no fancy moves and she was taught that way....couple of time she was approached by couple of youngees who danced fancier and said she doesnt dance right....as jingle dancers we are taught many things and that even not everybody dances the same way...what right does some people have to tell someone that they dont dance right?whats yar thoughts on this topic?-becca

07-15-2003, 01:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
The Rat WE ARE MAGNUS THE AMPLE Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: All over your face Posts: 271	I've seen it happen a lot with young male (and sometimes older) traditional dancers. These guys jump around, spin in full circles, run across the arena, etc. It's almost like they want to be fancy dancers but they're too lazy to make a second bustle __________________ This is the worst signature ever.

07-15-2003, 03:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
JDD 4 life Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 46	style well i think that people have their own styles of dancing and not everyboy will like it but they have no right to tell anyone anything because everyone has their own style. people try to say things about contemporary dancing too, but if we still lived and did things how we used to in the older days then it would be different, but we dont, the world is changing along with pow wows and "tradition." all i know is we all have our own way of dancing. __________________ -

07-15-2003, 05:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
nimkiikwe_49 naturally noble Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 262	WHOA... no that has never happend to me, I think I'd cry.... __________________ Miigwetch all's fair in love and pow wow.... see ya around

07-16-2003, 05:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
MayChe Minglin' N Jinglin' Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Flo' Da Posts: 1,120	I think some ppl say that also becuz they've never seen it b4. I know that wehen I did old style down here, ppl were asking what I was doing and how come I wasn't using a fan. __________________ Check me out on MySpace: www.myspace.com/mayasbored **~If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all. ~**

07-15-2003, 01:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
quicksilverwade Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of the Deadly San Andreas Fault Posts: 1,555	I suggest you reveal their names so that the future generations will never follow their mistakes!

07-15-2003, 06:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
quicksilverwade Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of the Deadly San Andreas Fault Posts: 1,555	I really think the culprit to blame on all of this holliganism would have to be the effect of those hideous neon colors. I'd like to propose a secondary division for contests called non-traditional neon flash dancing!

07-15-2003, 07:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
traditional dancer Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indian Country Posts: 38	I don't think anyone has the right to say "you're not dancing right", but I do think that old-style should have their own category, fancy, jingle, grass, whatever

07-16-2003, 10:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
hidatsachic24 Guest Posts: n/a	your right about that one...tradish jingle should be the name of the catagory...hmm maybe that could be not a very good name... personally never been confronted exactly like that one of my friends have here in toledo but been confronted in similiar way...its wrong....but personally this fake wannabe lady her name is dianna moore...found out shes a total liar...she a jingle dancer who says shes from canada and shes been in boarding school...now that b.s. cuz boarding school has been closed down for yrs. now...shes in her late 30's i think and found out shes from cinncinnatti.. she says she follows by anishnabe ways but she doesnt been to her moon ceremony before and its lakota based tradition...her teachings are lakota based ....but i was dancing at toledo powwow and the woman had the nerve to grab my arm and sayd this is a healing dress...basically saying i dont have the right to dance jingle...i was so upset i started crying.... told my momma when i got home and she was pissed off big time..well what gets me is that people who say that usually sometimes arent what they appear to be...well dianna apparently holds the jingle dancing as sacred when she dont even follow by it...she takes money...becca

07-16-2003, 10:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
hidatsachic24 Guest Posts: n/a	quciksilverwade, i normally dont like giveing names out especially of my friends on-line...with dianna who isnt a friend of mine i make an acception cuz people should know about her just incase they get invited to one of her swets...and to know its all for show what she does..-becca

07-16-2003, 02:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
quicksilverwade Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of the Deadly San Andreas Fault Posts: 1,555	I understand Hidatsachic about having second thoughts about bringing a person out on the internet but since the powwow world is a small world. Just by naming a person like Dianna Moore there are others who can research this person's background just by asking the elders who may have some type of knowledge about this person. And since I'm from Crow Creek South Dakota, I can ask my mother or call my cousins and ask "what do you know about Dianna Moore?". Who knows maybe I'm related to her, lol.

07-16-2003, 02:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
tradish_wiyan plains n8tv Join Date: May 2003 Location: northern plains Posts: 1,093	Gee, I don't know how I would react to anyone telling me that I was dancing wrong. There was a good point someone brought up...making an "old style" or "original style" category for the styles of dancing. More and more, I see a chicken dance category for chicken dancers. A majority of the regalia is the old style, but there are grass dancers who go out there and chicken dance in this category...so I dunno if that would be a possibility. As far as putting names on the net, the powwow world is quite small, and if this Moore person is offending people, we should know about it. There is nothing more annoying than a person coming right out and telling you that what you are doing is wrong. There is a "good way" to approach a person (invite them to your camp for dinner, offer a gift in exchange for some words of advise etc...) Just my two cents...AW MAN, now I am broke!!!:Tongue

07-17-2003, 05:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
quicksilverwade Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of the Deadly San Andreas Fault Posts: 1,555	Now maybe these neon flash dancers will get the message. We should adhere to colors that are easy on the eye. We don't need colors to get the judges attention!

07-22-2003, 02:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
wickedannabella Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago, IL Posts: 48