Waterboy

tsuj510 · 06-12-2008, 04:06 PM

Does anyone still do this?

Out in CA, its not practiced, but I used to see this all the time back East.

I think its a good tradion and an important position to remeber.

Jest my two cents.

Ya'll ever see this anymore?

**ac_miss** · 06-12-2008, 04:24 PM

I remember used to seeing the water boys with their water buckets and ladle, but that was back in the 80s. I don't see that around any more. I think people don't wanna catch germs, and then they came out with those bottled water.

**chazziff** · 06-12-2008, 06:15 PM

ya ... i'd be scared of the germs LOL. my sister's best friend ... got a real deadly strep throat infection ... after she offered her bottle of water to a traditional dancer ... she was keen on LOL

WhoMe · 06-13-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tsuj510

Does anyone still do this?

Ya'll ever see this anymore?

tsuj,

I really only see official waterboys at traditional dance ceremonies anymore. Many are listed as part of the committee and have protocol when and who to pass water to.

At the contest powwows inbetween contest songs, there are waterboys, watergirls, watermen and waterwomen who hand plastic water bottles to the dancers....

but none of them are official!

**billyjoejimbob** · 06-13-2008, 02:11 PM

No more waterboys....just the waterin hole!

CHEROSAGE · 06-17-2008, 01:41 AM

We still have an honored position of Waterboy in our Ilonshka's.

As a Powwow thing it has mostly become a thing of the past. I know that at our dance we have water coolers with cups sitting near by.

tsuj510 · 06-17-2008, 03:18 PM

Thanks for the input everyone.

Cherosage, good to hear from you; I am happy to hear that this position exists back home at your Ilonshka's.

The health concerns make sense, its just a shame to see another Tradition go out like this, IMHO. I guess someone, somewhere decided that having them hand out waterbottles instead is not the same, and have allocated this to the runners or Families who are doing giveaways.

When I was a kid all the MC's used to make big of the Waterboys and remind the People of their importance.

I guess times is changing! LOL!

Privateer6 · 06-18-2008, 03:05 PM

I have seen two things done at powwows in referendce to waterboys. At one I saw two young men working together to distribute water; one filling cups the other passing them out. At another powwow the waterboy had a cooler and cups on a cart and he rolled the cart filling cups as needed.

_wuliechsin_ · 06-18-2008, 06:05 PM

Very intersteating forum topic, thanks for sharing. I have since waterboys a few times. Once at a formal dance, Hethuluksa (is that the correct spelling, someone please correct me if I am worng thanks,) and the other one at a traditional powwow.

WhoMe · 06-19-2008, 04:49 PM

I just put up a thread about women dancing in men's cloths.

Has anybody ever seen a water girl?

powwowbum49 · 06-20-2008, 08:58 AM

I still see it done and yes I have seen gals helping with the job as well. I guess I go to old fashion dances. Around here they carry one of those big orange cooler jugs around and a stack or 2 of paper/foam cups.

I remember years ago getting a nice enamelware cup in an appliqued bag during a giveaway. It was to carry to the arena so I had my own cup to drink from while dancing. I still carry that in my dance bag and use it when I get the chance to dance around here.

Yes, gerrms are an issue and traditons change but they don't have to die out. The cooler and cups instead of a bucket and dipper is a good example of change without lose. Question would be ... is it the committee's or the AD's job to remember this position?

WhoMe · 06-20-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powwowbum49

I remember years ago getting a nice enamelware cup in an appliqued bag during a giveaway. ...I still carry that in my dance bag and use it when I get the chance to dance around here.

bum,

Is it that same nice enamelware cup you used to relieve that cute little monkey when he took his breaks, from the organ grinder?

*L

powwowbum49 · 06-20-2008, 03:51 PM

nah ... my cup was big cause I did a better job dancin!!!

06-12-2008, 04:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
tsuj510 Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 409	Waterboy Does anyone still do this? Out in CA, its not practiced, but I used to see this all the time back East. I think its a good tradion and an important position to remeber. Jest my two cents. Ya'll ever see this anymore? __________________ Because of our treaty status, the distinction of being 'Cherokee' is a status of citizenship, not a racial issue.

06-12-2008, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
ac_miss Raegan's Mom Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,774 Blog Entries: 3	I remember used to seeing the water boys with their water buckets and ladle, but that was back in the 80s. I don't see that around any more. I think people don't wanna catch germs, and then they came out with those bottled water. __________________ Bead All You Can Bead

06-12-2008, 06:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
chazziff PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Big Blue House on Da Hill Posts: 4,662	ya ... i'd be scared of the germs LOL. my sister's best friend ... got a real deadly strep throat infection ... after she offered her bottle of water to a traditional dancer ... she was keen on LOL __________________ Someone call an angel down It's getting too dark here on the ground

06-13-2008, 02:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
billyjoejimbob Fat Singer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: white guy land Posts: 1,512	No more waterboys....just the waterin hole! __________________ There are 2 types of people in the world... Really stupid people who think they are smart and Really smart people who think they are smart.

06-17-2008, 01:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,314	We still have an honored position of Waterboy in our Ilonshka's. As a Powwow thing it has mostly become a thing of the past. I know that at our dance we have water coolers with cups sitting near by. __________________ BOB

06-17-2008, 03:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
tsuj510 Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 409	Thanks for the input everyone. Cherosage, good to hear from you; I am happy to hear that this position exists back home at your Ilonshka's. The health concerns make sense, its just a shame to see another Tradition go out like this, IMHO. I guess someone, somewhere decided that having them hand out waterbottles instead is not the same, and have allocated this to the runners or Families who are doing giveaways. When I was a kid all the MC's used to make big of the Waterboys and remind the People of their importance. I guess times is changing! LOL! __________________ Because of our treaty status, the distinction of being 'Cherokee' is a status of citizenship, not a racial issue.

06-18-2008, 03:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Privateer6 Like my new toy? Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cylon occupied North Carolina Posts: 772	I have seen two things done at powwows in referendce to waterboys. At one I saw two young men working together to distribute water; one filling cups the other passing them out. At another powwow the waterboy had a cooler and cups on a cart and he rolled the cart filling cups as needed.

06-18-2008, 06:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
_wuliechsin_ Beadboy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: somewhere in the bread basket section of the USA Posts: 256 Blog Entries: 7	Very intersteating forum topic, thanks for sharing. I have since waterboys a few times. Once at a formal dance, Hethuluksa (is that the correct spelling, someone please correct me if I am worng thanks,) and the other one at a traditional powwow. __________________ Dance hard like there is no tomrrow. Hoka! Being Native American isn't JUST about blood. It is a Spiritual way of life.

06-19-2008, 04:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,433	I just put up a thread about women dancing in men's cloths. Has anybody ever seen a water girl? __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe

06-20-2008, 08:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
powwowbum49 Arena Director Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: midwest, USA Posts: 792	I still see it done and yes I have seen gals helping with the job as well. I guess I go to old fashion dances. Around here they carry one of those big orange cooler jugs around and a stack or 2 of paper/foam cups. I remember years ago getting a nice enamelware cup in an appliqued bag during a giveaway. It was to carry to the arena so I had my own cup to drink from while dancing. I still carry that in my dance bag and use it when I get the chance to dance around here. Yes, gerrms are an issue and traditons change but they don't have to die out. The cooler and cups instead of a bucket and dipper is a good example of change without lose. Question would be ... is it the committee's or the AD's job to remember this position? __________________ PB49 "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.

06-20-2008, 03:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
powwowbum49 Arena Director Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: midwest, USA Posts: 792	nah ... my cup was big cause I did a better job dancin!!! __________________ PB49 "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.