Head Female Dancing Judge

WhoMe · 06-08-2005, 10:18 AM

I just saw this head staff position at the Oneida powwow.

What do you think?

Should powwows include a Head Female Dancing judge? Why or why not?

**Wojapi4Me** · 06-08-2005, 10:34 AM

I would say definitely so. If the pow wow is large enough to warrant a head dance judge, I would say break it up into a Head Male Judge and Head Female Judge. More than likely a head female judge would have a better idea of who to pick for judges for the ladie's categories than a man. I think it's a good idea.

**Kiwehnzii** · 06-08-2005, 02:40 PM

I have seen this many times in Ontario and Michigan, Chicago, some in Wisc.

It is more prevalent in the powwows with over 400 dancers. I've done head male judge quite a few times and it is much easier and faster to get through the contests. It's great when time is a factor. The alternating of male/female contests goes much smoother.

Fringesnapper · 06-08-2005, 06:44 PM

Yes, women should have the opportunity to be head dance judge just like the men. I don't think they have any business being head drum judge, but dance judge is different. I know several women who have had the honor of this position at large casino pow-wows and it has been fine. In fact, they have their act together as far as having their judges ready to go and alternates available without waiting.

mountaindew · 06-08-2005, 09:46 PM

I also think it's okay for women to be head judges. And I also think men should judge men and women should judge women. I know some women who like men judges because they think they have a better chance of placing higher. Don't ask me their reasoning behind that. Maybe they slept with some of the men (just kidding).

**Roobz** · 06-09-2005, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountaindew

I also think it's okay for women to be head judges. And I also think men should judge men and women should judge women. I know some women who like men judges because they think they have a better chance of placing higher. Don't ask me their reasoning behind that. Maybe they slept with some of the men (just kidding).

I agree with you on that one

WhoMe · 06-09-2005, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruby 2sday

I agree with you on that one

*L

I guess no one can discount that possibility....

If there was only to be one judge at a powwow . . .

how appropriate would it be to have a female as the HEAD and only dance judge?

**Kiwehnzii** · 06-09-2005, 09:43 AM

Head judges are a recent addition to the powwow. It's not tradish, so people can't say that , traditionally, women don't belong in that position.
Women can select good, fair judges just as well as men. Or.......... they can select bad, unfair judges just as well as men too.
Gender doesn't factor into judge selection.
Good or bad, happy or sad.

ndnMSW · 06-09-2005, 04:03 PM

At Denver March they have had women for the head dance judges, northern and southern. I think one year Sandra Black Bear and Salina Todome were the head dance judges, (N & S), and I remember one year where Grace HMH was the head northern dance judge. They picked the judges for all the dance contests, men's and women's. Also at Red Earth one year, Grace and Salina were the head northern and southern dance judges. I think women can do just as good a job as a man, sometimes better because they might pay attention to all the little relationships (good and bad) among competitors. The only bad thing is that I think they are subject to more complaints from people just because they are women.

CHEROSAGE · 06-13-2005, 12:32 AM

Sure, I think it would be appropriate for a woman to be a head Judge in a Powwow. Why not, women are often Powwow Committee Chairman(chairperson).

**SingingDeer** · 07-08-2005, 11:43 PM

I agree with you Cherosage

06-08-2005, 10:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,433	Head Female Dancing Judge I just saw this head staff position at the Oneida powwow. What do you think? Should powwows include a Head Female Dancing judge? Why or why not? __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe

06-08-2005, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wojapi4Me Kili! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tha Rez Posts: 1,491	I would say definitely so. If the pow wow is large enough to warrant a head dance judge, I would say break it up into a Head Male Judge and Head Female Judge. More than likely a head female judge would have a better idea of who to pick for judges for the ladie's categories than a man. I think it's a good idea. __________________ If pro is the opposite of con, then wouldn't progress be the opposite of...lol

06-09-2005, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,849	Head judges are a recent addition to the powwow. It's not tradish, so people can't say that , traditionally, women don't belong in that position. Women can select good, fair judges just as well as men. Or.......... they can select bad, unfair judges just as well as men too. Gender doesn't factor into judge selection. Good or bad, happy or sad. Last edited by Kiwehnzii; 06-09-2005 at 09:57 AM.

06-13-2005, 12:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,316	Sure, I think it would be appropriate for a woman to be a head Judge in a Powwow. Why not, women are often Powwow Committee Chairman(chairperson). __________________ BOB

07-08-2005, 11:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
SingingDeer ~~~ Jedi Color Guard ~~~ Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 13,603	I agree with you Cherosage __________________ "Liberty is the one thing you can't have unless you give it to others." ~ Wm A White "We could learn a lot from a box of crayons: some sharp, some pretty, some dull, some have weird names, & all different colors, but they have to learn to live in the same box." ~ Anon

06-08-2005, 02:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,849	I have seen this many times in Ontario and Michigan, Chicago, some in Wisc. It is more prevalent in the powwows with over 400 dancers. I've done head male judge quite a few times and it is much easier and faster to get through the contests. It's great when time is a factor. The alternating of male/female contests goes much smoother.

06-08-2005, 06:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fringesnapper Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Side Posts: 55	Yes, women should have the opportunity to be head dance judge just like the men. I don't think they have any business being head drum judge, but dance judge is different. I know several women who have had the honor of this position at large casino pow-wows and it has been fine. In fact, they have their act together as far as having their judges ready to go and alternates available without waiting.

06-08-2005, 09:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
mountaindew Junior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South of the Canadian Border Posts: 121	I also think it's okay for women to be head judges. And I also think men should judge men and women should judge women. I know some women who like men judges because they think they have a better chance of placing higher. Don't ask me their reasoning behind that. Maybe they slept with some of the men (just kidding).

06-09-2005, 04:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
ndnMSW Teen Dancer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 376	At Denver March they have had women for the head dance judges, northern and southern. I think one year Sandra Black Bear and Salina Todome were the head dance judges, (N & S), and I remember one year where Grace HMH was the head northern dance judge. They picked the judges for all the dance contests, men's and women's. Also at Red Earth one year, Grace and Salina were the head northern and southern dance judges. I think women can do just as good a job as a man, sometimes better because they might pay attention to all the little relationships (good and bad) among competitors. The only bad thing is that I think they are subject to more complaints from people just because they are women.

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