GrassDance outfits

GrassDancer15 · 01-06-2006, 11:42 PM

HI My name is Alan.And I'm a 15 year old GrassDancer Kentucky..Have been for 5 years now and soon to be six..Now I'm planning out a new outfit..And I'm so confused about a few things and was hoping you guys could help out..OK I've heard what you do to the front you have't to do to the back of your to..Is that true?..And instead of having 12in yard can you have 18in yarn?..And do ya know anyway to keep the roach from Flying off while dancing?..Mine will not stay on it always comes off...Good thing I just have fake feathers not the real one's in it..Canyall help with that please....

**billyjoejimbob** · 01-09-2006, 05:31 PM

front and back dont have to match.

how do you put your roach on now? 2 ties, braid, headband?

my opinion is that 18in is too long, you dont want to look like a carwash, that is a boy scout thing. and you dont want to get tied up in a knot.

White Raven · 01-09-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billyjoejimbob

front and back dont have to match.

how do you put your roach on now? 2 ties, braid, headband?

my opinion is that 18in is too long, you dont want to look like a carwash, that is a boy scout thing. and you dont want to get tied up in a knot.

Hi, I am Alan's Mother and we are having trouble keeping his roach on. We have put it on a bandana, double tied it under his chin and tied the back through the chin strings as tight as he can stand it. His hair is not long enough for a braid.We do need advise. To keep it from flying off before we put the real feathers on it. We thought about sewing it to a cap crown. would that work? Please help. Thanks.

**Joe's Dad** · 01-09-2006, 11:54 PM

Make the fringe length whatever you feel comfortable with. Look at pictures of different outfits in the gallery. As for the roach, can't be much help there. Try using wide, flat shoelaces.

GrassDancer15 · 01-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Well why I was asking about The 18in yard is cuz I'm a lil tall..And 12in is getting short....I know I gotta wear the roach but I can't cuz it keeps coming off..And it's come off in comps..

winslowgurl · 01-10-2006, 02:38 PM

hey!!!GRASSDACNCER15...da point i should tell you is that if you have lone hair you can put a stick threw ur hair and it could me like that!!!and have a tie in the back of it! alrite!!
winslowgurl

**Wojapi4Me** · 01-10-2006, 02:48 PM

The people who posted here have given you some good advice...seems like the first good advice you've gotten so far.

There are no rules as to what you have to put on your shirt or aprons or anything. That is a load of bunk. Also, as to fringe length, I agree with Joe's Dad, just make it to fit you and your body type...I wouldn't have short aprons and really long fringe though...that might look weird...make it proportional.

Most grass dancers tie on their roaches with shoelaces...one in the front, and one from the back coming around and under the neck. I've never heard of other dancers having the problems you're having. I feel it may be the slipperiness of the bandanna...loose the rag and try it.

GrassDancer15 · 01-11-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by winslowgurl

hey!!!GRASSDACNCER15...da point i should tell you is that if you have lone hair you can put a stick threw ur hair and it could me like that!!!and have a tie in the back of it! alrite!!
winslowgurl

Well that's kinda of a problem..I keep my hair cut short...But I know it's a good point thanks...

Yeah there's been alot of helpful advice....Thanks for telling me that..I've always been simple and things..But I've been asked to go out to montanna to dance by a elder..Which to me is an honor...And I'm looking for advice and the things that I was wanting to know.....UH is there like anyway you can attach it to a BaseBall cap?...

tigger · 01-11-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by White Raven

Hi, I am Alan's Mother and we are having trouble keeping his roach on. We have put it on a bandana, double tied it under his chin and tied the back through the chin strings as tight as he can stand it. His hair is not long enough for a braid.We do need advise. To keep it from flying off before we put the real feathers on it. We thought about sewing it to a cap crown. would that work? Please help. Thanks.

i would lose the banadana. and like Joe's Dad said use the wide shoelaces. i'v efound that they work alot better

GrassDancer15 · 01-11-2006, 01:09 PM

OK wide shoe laces..I'll try that out...

Sunny Brownshield · 02-06-2006, 04:00 PM

hey waz up...............look i need help finding a grass dance outfit cuz im just learning how to dance and i dont have a outfit and im tryna get an outfit for the iwasil powwow cuz im a part of the iwasil program and im tryna dance at this powwow so is there any1 who can help me out.!?.!??????????????

Tsalagi_Kid · 04-06-2006, 08:47 PM

Crazy Crow has a pattern for grass dance regalia. They also sell roaches, spreaders, and just about anything else you could ever need! www.crazycrow.com

sookout sh'nob · 04-07-2006, 04:27 PM

If you're going to get somthing from Crazy Crow ty to get it as far ahead of time as possible - thier shipping is fast, but everything they sell smells like mothballs :P

It's good to have some time to air it all out.

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Originally Posted by Tsalagi_Kid

Crazy Crow has a pattern for grass dance regalia. They also sell roaches, spreaders, and just about anything else you could ever need! www.crazycrow.com

**billyjoejimbob** · 04-07-2006, 08:14 PM

I was just thinking about the first post.

"same thing on the front as the back"

i think that is just misconstrued by the boy scout grass dance movement which teaches dancing the same moves with both sides of your body.

Grassy · 04-10-2006, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrassDancer15

HI My name is Alan.And I'm a 15 year old GrassDancer Kentucky..Have been for 5 years now and soon to be six..Now I'm planning out a new outfit..And I'm so confused about a few things and was hoping you guys could help out..OK I've heard what you do to the front you have't to do to the back of your to..Is that true?..And instead of having 12in yard can you have 18in yarn?..And do ya know anyway to keep the roach from Flying off while dancing?..Mine will not stay on it always comes off...Good thing I just have fake feathers not the real one's in it..Canyall help with that please....

Grassy · 04-10-2006, 08:56 PM

to keep your roach on NOT wearing a bandanna could work better but you can still use it and the shoelace thing works and i need help to find a roach for cheap

Tsalagi_Kid · 04-10-2006, 11:46 PM

Good luck on finding a cheap, ACTUAL roach, but there are fiber roaches which I hear look just like a real roach, and might even be a bit morw durable. Not seen one of these in person yet, so I can't give my personal opinion on them, but I wouldn't think they'd appear any different from the traditional roach. Actually, the fiber would probably be easier to work with than real porcupine. I'd check www.crazycrow.com and www.nocbay.com, one of them probably has one in stock for no more than $20.

jed · 04-11-2006, 10:29 AM

Fiber roaches look terrible. Pass.

A cheaper alternative is a horse hair roach. But even those are difficult to make look good and they tend to droop more than porky hair. Richard Thunderdchild in Sask makes the nicest horsehair roaches I have ever seen.

A good Porky roach will last a lifetime if you take care of it, well worth the investment.

01-06-2006, 11:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
GrassDancer15 Powwow Dancer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Richmond Ky Posts: 4	GrassDance outfits HI My name is Alan.And I'm a 15 year old GrassDancer Kentucky..Have been for 5 years now and soon to be six..Now I'm planning out a new outfit..And I'm so confused about a few things and was hoping you guys could help out..OK I've heard what you do to the front you have't to do to the back of your to..Is that true?..And instead of having 12in yard can you have 18in yarn?..And do ya know anyway to keep the roach from Flying off while dancing?..Mine will not stay on it always comes off...Good thing I just have fake feathers not the real one's in it..Canyall help with that please....

01-09-2006, 11:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Joe's Dad Shhh...I'm watching TV Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 8,657	Make the fringe length whatever you feel comfortable with. Look at pictures of different outfits in the gallery. As for the roach, can't be much help there. Try using wide, flat shoelaces. __________________ Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat? Last edited by Joe's Dad; 01-09-2006 at 11:58 PM.

01-10-2006, 02:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wojapi4Me Kili! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tha Rez Posts: 1,515	The people who posted here have given you some good advice...seems like the first good advice you've gotten so far. There are no rules as to what you have to put on your shirt or aprons or anything. That is a load of bunk. Also, as to fringe length, I agree with Joe's Dad, just make it to fit you and your body type...I wouldn't have short aprons and really long fringe though...that might look weird...make it proportional. Most grass dancers tie on their roaches with shoelaces...one in the front, and one from the back coming around and under the neck. I've never heard of other dancers having the problems you're having. I feel it may be the slipperiness of the bandanna...loose the rag and try it. __________________ If pro is the opposite of con, then wouldn't progress be the opposite of...lol

02-06-2006, 04:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sunny Brownshield sioux warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: seattle Posts: 6	help me out wit a out fit hey waz up...............look i need help finding a grass dance outfit cuz im just learning how to dance and i dont have a outfit and im tryna get an outfit for the iwasil powwow cuz im a part of the iwasil program and im tryna dance at this powwow so is there any1 who can help me out.!?.!??????????????

04-10-2006, 11:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tsalagi_Kid Grass Dancer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3	Good luck on finding a cheap, ACTUAL roach, but there are fiber roaches which I hear look just like a real roach, and might even be a bit morw durable. Not seen one of these in person yet, so I can't give my personal opinion on them, but I wouldn't think they'd appear any different from the traditional roach. Actually, the fiber would probably be easier to work with than real porcupine. I'd check www.crazycrow.com and www.nocbay.com, one of them probably has one in stock for no more than $20. Last edited by Tsalagi_Kid; 04-10-2006 at 11:50 PM.

01-09-2006, 05:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
billyjoejimbob Fat Singer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: white guy land Posts: 1,526	front and back dont have to match. how do you put your roach on now? 2 ties, braid, headband? my opinion is that 18in is too long, you dont want to look like a carwash, that is a boy scout thing. and you dont want to get tied up in a knot.

01-10-2006, 02:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
GrassDancer15 Powwow Dancer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Richmond Ky Posts: 4	Well why I was asking about The 18in yard is cuz I'm a lil tall..And 12in is getting short....I know I gotta wear the roach but I can't cuz it keeps coming off..And it's come off in comps..

01-10-2006, 02:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
winslowgurl Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: teesto Posts: 1	hey!!!GRASSDACNCER15...da point i should tell you is that if you have lone hair you can put a stick threw ur hair and it could me like that!!!and have a tie in the back of it! alrite!! winslowgurl

01-11-2006, 01:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
GrassDancer15 Powwow Dancer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Richmond Ky Posts: 4	OK wide shoe laces..I'll try that out...

04-06-2006, 08:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tsalagi_Kid Grass Dancer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3	Crazy Crow has a pattern for grass dance regalia. They also sell roaches, spreaders, and just about anything else you could ever need! www.crazycrow.com

04-07-2006, 08:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
billyjoejimbob Fat Singer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: white guy land Posts: 1,526	I was just thinking about the first post. "same thing on the front as the back" i think that is just misconstrued by the boy scout grass dance movement which teaches dancing the same moves with both sides of your body.

04-10-2006, 08:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Grassy Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11	to keep your roach on NOT wearing a bandanna could work better but you can still use it and the shoelace thing works and i need help to find a roach for cheap

04-11-2006, 10:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
jed Former Mayor of Duck Lake Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wetaskiwin, AB Posts: 91	Fiber roaches look terrible. Pass. A cheaper alternative is a horse hair roach. But even those are difficult to make look good and they tend to droop more than porky hair. Richard Thunderdchild in Sask makes the nicest horsehair roaches I have ever seen. A good Porky roach will last a lifetime if you take care of it, well worth the investment.