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We started a thread where we tried to Trace the origins of some of them and where they came with Starting in Oklahoma It would be intersting to see who started a few of them and where they recieved permission I am also guess that if they are calling themselves Gourd Clubs that they feel they dont need permission to Dance
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10-04-2008, 02:25 AM
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Here's a start to build upon. Can other add to this tree? (Think you, Josiah!) Kiowa Gourd Clan .........| .........| .........|----- Otoe Gourd Society .........| .........| ........./ (represents non-sanctioned by the Kiowa Gourd Clan) .........| .........| .........|----- Kiowa Tiah Piah .........|....................| .........|....................| .........|....................|----- Texas Tiah Piah .........|....................| .........|....................| .........|....................|----- Gulf Coast Tiah Piah .........|....................| .........|....................| .........|....................|----- Quapaw Intertribal Guord Society .........|....................| .........|....................| .........|....................|----- Memphis Tia Piah Big River Clan .........| .........| .........| .........|----- Oklahoma Tiah Piah .........|....................| .........|....................| .........|....................|----- Ponca Gourd Dance Society
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10-04-2008, 08:38 AM
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Thanks Zotigh! This is a great start to trace the origins of gourd dance. I have a question for anybody... If a gourd singer or dancer supports a gourd dance "group" by singing or dancing at their gourd dance, are they condoning and acknowledging this particular gourd group as legitimate? Or does it really matter, don't worry about it, enjoy yourself and gourd dance? *L
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10-04-2008, 09:47 AM
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The photos were taken in 1983... Last year it was announced that anyone knew how to get a hold of them to invite them back to our Annual celebration please do so. 
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send them to me DZ I'll sancition them for 50g's and I will be know as cheif dustybottoms!!! aye!!!
you know you can tell ppl till your blue in the face they gonna do what they gonna do... all you can do is try to set an example.... here goes another "you have to be a vet to dance this dance group!" the all mighty way ward kiowa Dusty Zoddle has spoken and it is good!!! thats what what they gonna tell ppl in ok.... you know your gulity by just being there!! 
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10-04-2008, 09:53 AM
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Some of the members are also members of the Kiowa Tia-Piah and sometimes are cohosts at our annual I am not sure whom they belong to
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10-07-2008, 02:04 AM
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Editing my post to note that I am NOT of the Ohoma Society, so I have no right to post about that history. The Ohoma Society is a MAJOR society in our Kiowa Tribe and the post about the Omaha gourd society is / may be related...so, it is interesting. But, the leaders of the Kiowa Gourd Clan and/or the leaders of the Kiowa Ohoma Society would have to relate the stories of relationship to our tribal societies.
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