Lumbees receive the gourd dance

WhoMe · 05-11-2008, 12:28 AM

I just got back from a powwow. While sitting at the drum I was informed the Lumbee tribe was given the rights to do the gourd dance during their annual celebration last week.

Does anybody know the details?

CloudN9ne · 05-12-2008, 11:31 AM

WHOA!!!! wonder how much they paid for it.......

**Josiah** · 05-12-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe

I just got back from a powwow. While sitting at the drum I was informed the Lumbee tribe was given the rights to do the gourd dance during their annual celebration last week.

Does anybody know the details?

This bring up an excellant point
Who does have the "rights" to grant this
KGC?
KTS?
OTP?

Is it something that would be normally done during the "Annual" which is not till July...

StoneyClaus · 05-13-2008, 11:34 PM

Let me start by saying I know VERY LITTLE about Gourd Dancing...

I think "given the rights" is a stretch... I was there... From what I understand, my bro - Brock - has inquired with some folks about gourd dancing over the past year. He has traveled with Otter Trail and these guys have taken him on as a brother. He did so in a humble way to understand the dance and the songs better for himself. After learning about it, he wanted to bring that to his home in an appropriate way...

Just facts from what I know and what I have heard from the people involved in this... Don't shoot the messenger...

**Joe's Dad** · 05-14-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by StoneyClaus

Let me start by saying I know VERY LITTLE about Gourd Dancing...

I think "given the rights" is a stretch... I was there... From what I understand, my bro - Brock - has inquired with some folks about gourd dancing over the past year. He has traveled with Otter Trail and these guys have taken him on as a brother. He did so in a humble way to understand the dance and the songs better for himself. After learning about it, he wanted to bring that to his home in an appropriate way...

Just facts from what I know and what I have heard from the people involved in this... Don't shoot the messenger...

"Watch it, Bud!"

Say hi to your mom and dad and granddad for me.

luvstraightdancrs · 05-14-2008, 11:38 AM

So who is the actual person(s) that gave this to them????? We heard a name but want to make sure we are all talking about the same thing................

**Josiah** · 05-14-2008, 01:43 PM

Its possible that someone misunderstood what they were taught then...

principaldog2 · 05-14-2008, 02:56 PM

Even though Larry McCurtain is part Kiowa, it's not his place, right, or authority to give away the Kiowa gourd dance. This tribe or group should have approached the Kiowa elders and properly asked for this right. Don't the lumbees have their own ceremonies or dances to do, without "borrowing" from another tribe?

StoneyClaus · 05-15-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe's Dad

"Watch it, Bud!"

Say hi to your mom and dad and granddad for me.

Hey Jimbo, send me a PM sometime... Good to hear from ya...

luvstraightdancrs · 05-15-2008, 11:27 AM

Heard he was Comanche and Crow!

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WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,560	Lumbees receive the gourd dance I just got back from a powwow. While sitting at the drum I was informed the Lumbee tribe was given the rights to do the gourd dance during their annual celebration last week. Does anybody know the details? __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe

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CloudN9ne Lavender Hill Mobb Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tha Rez Posts: 205	WHOA!!!! wonder how much they paid for it....... __________________ "Go Make Sweat!!!" -Sonny Kennedy- 2003 don't get mad at me im just a critic

05-13-2008, 11:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
StoneyClaus Junior Dancer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 101	Let me start by saying I know VERY LITTLE about Gourd Dancing... I think "given the rights" is a stretch... I was there... From what I understand, my bro - Brock - has inquired with some folks about gourd dancing over the past year. He has traveled with Otter Trail and these guys have taken him on as a brother. He did so in a humble way to understand the dance and the songs better for himself. After learning about it, he wanted to bring that to his home in an appropriate way... Just facts from what I know and what I have heard from the people involved in this... Don't shoot the messenger... __________________ Visit www.myspace.com/stoneycreeksingers Visit www.myspace.com/sandonj

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05-14-2008, 11:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
luvstraightdancrs Senior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern Straight country Posts: 662	So who is the actual person(s) that gave this to them????? We heard a name but want to make sure we are all talking about the same thing................

05-14-2008, 02:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
principaldog2 Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 19	Even though Larry McCurtain is part Kiowa, it's not his place, right, or authority to give away the Kiowa gourd dance. This tribe or group should have approached the Kiowa elders and properly asked for this right. Don't the lumbees have their own ceremonies or dances to do, without "borrowing" from another tribe?

05-15-2008, 11:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
luvstraightdancrs Senior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern Straight country Posts: 662	Heard he was Comanche and Crow!

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