Gourd Dancers: question?

WhoMe · 07-16-2004, 05:26 PM

For those of you who gourd dance. . .

What is inside your gourds? Rocks, beads, sand, don't know because you didn't make your own gourd?

Zotigh · 07-16-2004, 07:14 PM

Started off as kernel sized pebbles.

But, it's fine grained sand now...hehe

It'll just be powder before long.

Guess I'm up for a new rattle. :)

Rides the Wind · 07-19-2004, 12:47 PM

Mine has those tiny red rocks from a red ant bed...was told by an elder years ago that this was used in the ancient ones time.

CHEROSAGE · 07-20-2004, 01:26 AM

My gourds have small garnets and too I'm sure they are becoming sand size. MY can rattle is a more sand size garnets. I do have 2 gourds that have popcorn in them. These are my personal rattles for other events. I have used 1 of the these with popcorn in them in a gourd dance, it was the only one I had at that time. It did sound good, though during the Gourd dance.

park · 07-20-2004, 03:31 PM

I use glass beads, about size 11/o (cuz I save the 13/os for my beadwork!). They give me a good << shook shook >> sound without being too loud or too quiet.

I've heard about those little red rocks, but I try to avoid ant piles. . . . lol.

Kio-Manche · 11-12-2004, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CHEROSAGE

My gourds have small garnets and too I'm sure they are becoming sand size. MY can rattle is a more sand size garnets. I do have 2 gourds that have popcorn in them. These are my personal rattles for other events. I have used 1 of the these with popcorn in them in a gourd dance, it was the only one I had at that time. It did sound good, though during the Gourd dance.

Man, I'd be afraid of the popcorn popping out here in the Oklahoma sun. (July gets pretty warm)
Can you imagine the looks you'd get if your gourd can started popping popcorn? LOL...
Thanks Cherosage,
Numunu

CHEROSAGE · 11-14-2004, 11:50 PM

Hey there new daddy, Numunu. Thanks, that would be good, just think of it as a mid dance snack.

ogapahndn · 11-18-2004, 02:52 PM

My brother uses small river rocks or pebbles. He gets them from some family land. The rocks are smooth so they don't cut up the inside of his gourds. They have a really good sound.

I can just see Bob eating his popcorn during a gourd dance break. LOL

WhoMe · 11-18-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rides the Wind

Mine has those tiny red rocks from a red ant bed...was told by an elder years ago that this was used in the ancient ones time.

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RtWind:

Thats what I was told too.

So I braved the ant bed and stole the largest of their rocks and stuck them in my gourd. Then I shook it and it sounded like salt (inside my salt shaker).

No way.

So I poured out the stolen ant rocks back on their bed.

Then I traded a kid I know for some of his small plastic beads. I loaded a handful into my gourd until I heard a pleasing sound!

eehh haw! perfection!

True story!

"But, don't tell anybody or I'll hafta kill ya."

*L

CHEROSAGE · 11-22-2004, 03:14 AM

hey there Ogapahndn: can you imagine one of those hot Quapah 4th of July dances. Dancing hot enough to make the gourd pop the corn.

As I have previously said I do have garnets in a gourd and sand sized garnets in a can shaker. All of these were given to me. I was told that the garnets were the right thing to use in the gourds. Not sure what would have been used if the garnets weren't available.

ogapahndn · 11-23-2004, 12:29 PM

Hey Bob, bring your gourd next year and we'll see if the 4th heat is enough to pop it. I'll bring the butter and salt! LOL

CHEROSAGE · 11-24-2004, 02:01 AM

I remember many a years hot enough the corn could pop in the gourd. Don't let the BIA Police know if you have any refreshing beverages.

We do have a great dance down in the valley, enhanced by all the great friends and family.

Kio-Manche · 06-19-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe

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RtWind:

Thats what I was told too.

So I braved the ant bed and stole the largest of their rocks and stuck them in my gourd. Then I shook it and it sounded like salt (inside my salt shaker).

No way.

So I poured out the stolen ant rocks back on their bed.

Then I traded a kid I know for some of his small plastic beads. I loaded a handful into my gourd until I heard a pleasing sound!

eehh haw! perfection!

True story!

"But, don't tell anybody or I'll hafta kill ya."

*L

I just finished up on a new gourd and was trying to find that "right sound". I remembered reading this post about a year ago. I tried some bigger beads I had laying around, and like you said WhoMe, I got a pleasing sound. Funny thing is, we went to a dance this past weekend in Cache, and my bro wanted to borrow one of my gourds, I said take your pick, and he picked them up one at a time, shook em....and picked that new gourd out of the bunch...LOL....

07-16-2004, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Zotigh USMC Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 269	Started off as kernel sized pebbles. But, it's fine grained sand now...hehe It'll just be powder before long. Guess I'm up for a new rattle. :) __________________ Scott Zotigh Kiowa Black Leggings Kiowa Gourd Clan Kiowa Tiah Piah Kiowa Marine Veterans American Indian Veterans

07-19-2004, 12:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rides the Wind Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 36	Mine has those tiny red rocks from a red ant bed...was told by an elder years ago that this was used in the ancient ones time. __________________ Rides-the-Wind

07-20-2004, 01:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,330	My gourds have small garnets and too I'm sure they are becoming sand size. MY can rattle is a more sand size garnets. I do have 2 gourds that have popcorn in them. These are my personal rattles for other events. I have used 1 of the these with popcorn in them in a gourd dance, it was the only one I had at that time. It did sound good, though during the Gourd dance. __________________ BOB

11-14-2004, 11:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,330	Hey there new daddy, Numunu. Thanks, that would be good, just think of it as a mid dance snack. __________________ BOB

07-20-2004, 03:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
park Junior Dancer Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 120	I use glass beads, about size 11/o (cuz I save the 13/os for my beadwork!). They give me a good << shook shook >> sound without being too loud or too quiet. I've heard about those little red rocks, but I try to avoid ant piles. . . . lol.

11-18-2004, 02:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
ogapahndn Downstream People Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: ok Posts: 511	My brother uses small river rocks or pebbles. He gets them from some family land. The rocks are smooth so they don't cut up the inside of his gourds. They have a really good sound. I can just see Bob eating his popcorn during a gourd dance break. LOL

11-22-2004, 03:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,330	hey there Ogapahndn: can you imagine one of those hot Quapah 4th of July dances. Dancing hot enough to make the gourd pop the corn. As I have previously said I do have garnets in a gourd and sand sized garnets in a can shaker. All of these were given to me. I was told that the garnets were the right thing to use in the gourds. Not sure what would have been used if the garnets weren't available. __________________ BOB

11-23-2004, 12:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
ogapahndn Downstream People Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: ok Posts: 511	Hey Bob, bring your gourd next year and we'll see if the 4th heat is enough to pop it. I'll bring the butter and salt! LOL

11-24-2004, 02:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,330	I remember many a years hot enough the corn could pop in the gourd. Don't let the BIA Police know if you have any refreshing beverages. We do have a great dance down in the valley, enhanced by all the great friends and family. __________________ BOB

06-20-2006, 12:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
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