Gourd Dancing Too Long

jumpingbuffalo · 06-19-2004, 04:46 PM

Much Respect here....

Grand Entries scheduled to start at 1 PM and & 7 PM should be allowed to start as scheduled...cause well it sure seems the Gourd Dancing 'nation wide' takes too long and goes well over their allotted time...sorry but well...pow-wows are pow-wows and each one is different, but waiting an Extra Hour is too long, how can it be prevented?

CHEROSAGE · 06-23-2004, 03:12 AM

This is up to the Committee and the Headsinger.

**WocusWoman** · 06-23-2004, 07:41 AM

Sounds like you've been to some really un-organized powwows???

durty-kawdayz49 · 06-23-2004, 12:11 PM

Why don't you just gourd dance.... Lots of fun and your wait won't seem as long.....Us NDN run on NDN Tyme and me my self I enjoy sing gourd dance and I like it when it runs over. I'll take singing gourd dance anyday over war dance songs!

Durty!

t'aultaun ondep · 07-01-2004, 03:03 PM

Gourd dancing isn't for spectators. It's something that is enjoyable based on the depth of experience and participation.

The best analogy that I can come up with is to golf. I don't play golf, and I can't stand to watch it. However, if I played golf, I would probably get something out of watching it and may even enjoy it.

With gourd dance, if someone has a familiarity with it, can sing along to singers with the knowledge and emotion, and even get out and dance to a song or two, get that goot feeling, it can be a quite a moving experience--definitely more moving to me than golf, anyway.

Raw kidneys, bote and frybread--breakfast of champions!

T.O.

quicksilverwade · 07-01-2004, 08:33 PM

My only advice would be to enjoy the spare time with your family. Take this time to reconnect with your loved ones. The gourd dance will not bow to any misgivings. It's best to relax and straighten your regalia and give thanks for being alive.

bqueton · 07-01-2004, 11:37 PM

All I can say about this subject is:

For just a One Hour time filler at a contest dance- WHY BOTHER. It's my opinion that the Gourd Dance doesn't even belong at dances of that nature. Those are the exact people that will never have any understanding of it. If you want to Gourd Dance, then let's do it right. None of this one hour stuff twice daily before a Grand Entry. And none of this two songs and then a half-hour break crap.

Jumpingbuffulo would have a fit at Carnegie on those nights when we Gourd Dance till 10 or 11 pm and then maybe War Dance for an hour.

CHEROSAGE · 07-02-2004, 04:12 AM

hey, bqueton, that sounds like a great dance.

Zotigh · 07-02-2004, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bqueton

It's my opinion that the Gourd Dance doesn't even belong at dances of that nature. (Contest Pow-wows)

I'm right there with ya, bro. I don't like seeing gourd dancing at places folks have to pay to get in and enjoy.

Not against contest pow-wows. I know folks love 'em. I prefer the open, free dances we have down south here. The veterans society in Dallas put on a monthly dance for a few years, and although we didn't make any money, we did pay the bills and were able to donate to veterans charities.

Paying to attend a dance to watch folks pin numbers on and perform for prizes. Okay.

Paying to attend a gourd dance. No way.

The two should not be mixed.

jumpingbuffalo · 07-03-2004, 04:13 PM

ok cool, well yeah I understand all this.

Was getting at when they are mixed gourd/contest and the schedule says Grand Entry at 7pm, the Gourd Dance Singers don't intentionally or purposely go over their allotted time, right?

You're right about the type of pow-wows, I've been living down here on the Navajo/Dine' Rez and well powwows aren't the same as the Northern Plains here.

Ok well yeah we're all here to have a good time, thx.

06-19-2004, 04:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
jumpingbuffalo Hokaaah Grassin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Shiprock Rockers Posts: 102	Gourd Dancing Too Long Much Respect here.... Grand Entries scheduled to start at 1 PM and & 7 PM should be allowed to start as scheduled...cause well it sure seems the Gourd Dancing 'nation wide' takes too long and goes well over their allotted time...sorry but well...pow-wows are pow-wows and each one is different, but waiting an Extra Hour is too long, how can it be prevented?

06-23-2004, 03:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,342	This is up to the Committee and the Headsinger. __________________ BOB

06-23-2004, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
durty-kawdayz49 Brownhighlites n my Kawds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 66	Why don't you just gourd dance.... Lots of fun and your wait won't seem as long.....Us NDN run on NDN Tyme and me my self I enjoy sing gourd dance and I like it when it runs over. I'll take singing gourd dance anyday over war dance songs! Durty! __________________ give good sing hard and try not to fart infront a fine flat butt babe!

07-01-2004, 03:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
t'aultaun ondep Just Rugged Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Square Top, Oklahoma Posts: 14	The longer the gourd dance, the groovier it gets! Gourd dancing isn't for spectators. It's something that is enjoyable based on the depth of experience and participation. The best analogy that I can come up with is to golf. I don't play golf, and I can't stand to watch it. However, if I played golf, I would probably get something out of watching it and may even enjoy it. With gourd dance, if someone has a familiarity with it, can sing along to singers with the knowledge and emotion, and even get out and dance to a song or two, get that goot feeling, it can be a quite a moving experience--definitely more moving to me than golf, anyway. Raw kidneys, bote and frybread--breakfast of champions! T.O. __________________ Buh!

07-01-2004, 11:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
bqueton Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 92	All I can say about this subject is: For just a One Hour time filler at a contest dance- WHY BOTHER. It's my opinion that the Gourd Dance doesn't even belong at dances of that nature. Those are the exact people that will never have any understanding of it. If you want to Gourd Dance, then let's do it right. None of this one hour stuff twice daily before a Grand Entry. And none of this two songs and then a half-hour break crap. Jumpingbuffulo would have a fit at Carnegie on those nights when we Gourd Dance till 10 or 11 pm and then maybe War Dance for an hour. __________________ If life is a waste of time and time is a waste of life; let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives! Last edited by bqueton; 07-01-2004 at 11:39 PM.

06-23-2004, 07:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,737	Sounds like you've been to some really un-organized powwows???

07-01-2004, 08:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
quicksilverwade Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of the Deadly San Andreas Fault Posts: 1,555	My only advice would be to enjoy the spare time with your family. Take this time to reconnect with your loved ones. The gourd dance will not bow to any misgivings. It's best to relax and straighten your regalia and give thanks for being alive.

07-02-2004, 04:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
CHEROSAGE Pow Wow Committee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: , mo Posts: 1,342	hey, bqueton, that sounds like a great dance. __________________ BOB

07-03-2004, 04:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
jumpingbuffalo Hokaaah Grassin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Shiprock Rockers Posts: 102	ok cool, well yeah I understand all this. Was getting at when they are mixed gourd/contest and the schedule says Grand Entry at 7pm, the Gourd Dance Singers don't intentionally or purposely go over their allotted time, right? You're right about the type of pow-wows, I've been living down here on the Navajo/Dine' Rez and well powwows aren't the same as the Northern Plains here. Ok well yeah we're all here to have a good time, thx. Last edited by jumpingbuffalo; 07-03-2004 at 04:16 PM.

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