Kiowa,Wichita horn Dance

bigyellowbear49 · 06-18-2004, 01:40 AM

Is anyone familiar with this dance? I saw an article on the net.It was popular around the turn of the century.I am curious as to the how and why of it...........

WhoMe · 06-18-2004, 04:43 PM

I have never heard of this dance. If you have more information, I can ask around. Does it have any relation to the gourd dance?

I'm pretty sure it is not a Kiowa dance. But, I have some Wichita friends who I can ask. . .

Zotigh · 06-19-2004, 07:01 PM

Kiowa-Apache.

The "Horn Dance" did not seem familiar to me. So, I looked on the web. Found some photos of the Indian Congress in Omaha in 1898. The legend says, "Kiowa and Wichita Horn Dance". But, reading the report by Mr. W.V. Cox, Secretary of the Government Exhibit Board from 1898 you find out the error in labeling, as he writes:

Quote:

"Omitting several delegations which remained but a short while there were represented about twenty tribes, viz: Apache, Arapaho (southern), Assiniboin, Blackfoot, Cheyenne (southern), Crow, Flathead, Iowa, Kiowa, Omaha, Oto, Ponka, Potawatomi, Pueblo (of Santa Clara), Sauk and Fox, Sioux, Tonkawa, Wichita, and Winnebago. The Apache were in two delegations, the Chiricahua now held as prisoners at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, and the San Carlos delegation, coming directly from Arizona. With the latter were several Mohave. The Flathead delegation included also some Spokan and Kalispel. The Kiowa were properly Kiowa Apache, practically a part of the Kiowa in everything but language. There were several delegations of Sioux, mainly from Rosebud and Pine Ridge agencies in South Dakota. The Wichita delegation included one or two individuals of the nearly extinct Kichai, while with the Tonkawa, themselves of the verge of extinction, was a single woman of the broken tribe of the Lipan."

He goes on further in the report to describe the Kiowa-Apache:

Quote:

"Another interesting southern tribe represented was that of the Kiowa Apache, now numbering about 220, on a reservation in southwestern Oklahoma, adjoining the Wichita. Although closely associated with the more numerous Kiowa, they are of Athapascan stock, coming originally from the far north. They call themselves Nadiishan-Dina, and are mentioned under their Pawnee name of Gataka in a French document of 1682, being then in the same general region where they became better known at a later period, participating with the Kiowa in all their raiding wars until assigned their present reservation in 1869. Until within a few years past they have been a typical plains tribe, without
agriculture, pottery, or basketry, depending entirely on the buffalo for subsistence, and shifting their skin tipis from place to place as whim or necessity guided. They hunted and fought on horseback, carrying the bow, the lance, and the shield (and more recently the rifle), and joined with the Kiowa
in the great annual ceremony of the sun dance. Physically they are tall and well made, with bold, alert expression."

Interesting looking dance, though. They seem to have worn breach cloths, roaches and carried very long lances. In another section it says that the Kiowa-Apache and Wichita performed the "Mounted Horn Dance". Were the lances so long because the dance is on horseback?

Anyway. Not a Kiowa dance. And, no relation to Gourd dancing.

Interesting though.

P.S.
The Kiowa-Apache no longer call themselves that. They are now, "The Apache Tribe of Oklahoma".

**WocusWoman** · 06-19-2004, 11:14 PM

Nope, never heard of it...

06-18-2004, 01:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
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WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,560	I have never heard of this dance. If you have more information, I can ask around. Does it have any relation to the gourd dance? I'm pretty sure it is not a Kiowa dance. But, I have some Wichita friends who I can ask. . . __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe

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